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New Substack post by Kyle Saunders since last night's announcements
JM397 • 08/01/26 05:57 PM ET
A Cap of 19 would severely limit VT’s chances of moving.
ColumbusHokie • 08/01/26 08:26 AM ET
Yeah like from 5% to 1%. The cap is probably a good thing for VT **
RandomAsianGuy • 08/01/26 06:06 PM ET
Limits everone's chances,
realityhokie • 08/01/26 04:42 PM ET
It appears that the legislation codifies
Big12 guy • 08/01/26 09:20 AM ET
AI says these are the key provisions of the Support College Sports Act.
Hokester • 08/01/26 08:05 AM ET
Sorry, I did divide up all the paragraphs but this is the way it posted. **
Hokester • 08/01/26 04:53 PM ET
The legislation,......
2hhoop3 • 08/01/26 09:54 AM ET
A legislative act signed by the president creates
Big12 guy • 08/01/26 10:01 AM ET
So .... only four potential new slots in the BIG and SEC. Admin
Will Stewart Admin • 08/01/26 08:25 AM ET
So THATS where the strange 19 number came from I bet
GusDaMan • 08/01/26 09:45 AM ET
PCSA looks like it may have the Big 10 **
goldendomer • 07/31/26 08:40 PM ET
Ugh. I’m very against the expansion section as written
HokieAl • 08/01/26 09:30 AM ET
One step closer. **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/31/26 11:29 PM ET
Two steps, below, Ross Dellenger is reporting the SEC is supporting too. **
Stech • 07/31/26 11:33 PM ET
They sure waited after work hours to break this
harlote101 • 07/31/26 11:18 PM ET
Got the SEC too
mrcaniac • 07/31/26 10:10 PM ET
Just got this email from the ACC ... Admin
Will Stewart Admin • 07/31/26 11:38 PM ET
Here is a clickable link **
Stech • 07/31/26 10:31 PM ET
That is another huge wow!! **
Stech • 07/31/26 10:34 PM ET
Wow that is a huge change!! **
Stech • 07/31/26 09:01 PM ET
The value of P4 football programs... **
IB4TECH • 07/31/26 01:05 PM ET
Top Ten valuation schools **
TerryD • 07/31/26 02:19 PM ET
My challenge to their method is that it’s based on total revenue
HokieAl • 07/31/26 03:43 PM ET
well if you want to be technical the enterprise value of all these schools
Vippie1 • 07/31/26 04:21 PM ET
In pro sports.....
2hhoop3 • 07/31/26 04:45 PM ET
Question about 19 and a possible work around
The_VT_Rock • 07/30/26 10:01 AM ET
If the Protect College Sports Act is passed, legal challenges are expected
Stech • 07/30/26 09:03 PM ET
The complexity of this unbelievable
1947Sunbowl • 07/30/26 11:08 PM ET
Easier solution: Congress legislate that all conferences are round robin
Maroon Baboon • 07/30/26 12:50 PM ET
Easiest solution is that Congress only covers the money aspect
HokieAl • 07/30/26 04:26 PM ET
The SEC and Big "Ten" superconferences is what got us into this mess. **
Maroon Baboon • 07/30/26 06:06 PM ET
The mess probably started long before we got to this point. This just
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/26 10:00 AM ET
If they rely on Congress.......
2hhoop3 • 07/30/26 04:44 PM ET
I'm not sure VT would be in favor of that idea because the ACC will likely
VTHokie2000 • 07/30/26 01:05 PM ET
It's in Congress's hands now, not VT's
Maroon Baboon • 07/30/26 01:10 PM ET
I realize it is out of VT's hands now. My point though is I think VA is
VTHokie2000 • 07/30/26 01:18 PM ET
Also it's not only 19 team cap. The targets may need 5 year independence
RandomAsianGuy • 07/30/26 12:48 PM ET
I don't get the 5-year independence thing. Makes zero sense. **
Maroon Baboon • 07/31/26 04:52 AM ET
It gives room to the Big Ten for ND
TerryD • 07/31/26 09:52 AM ET
However, I wonder if the split would create 2 "new" conferences...
The_VT_Rock • 07/30/26 12:50 PM ET
IF a new conf is created, I’d wager it is football only.
HokieAl • 07/30/26 04:30 PM ET
Why would the ACC let schools that leave in football remain for others?
mrcaniac • 07/31/26 04:34 PM ET
ND model. We could agree to schedule them OOC and bolster other sports
HokieAl • 07/31/26 04:44 PM ET
Again, it makes no financial sense for the ACC to do that
mrcaniac • 07/31/26 07:35 PM ET
If the power conferences would allow such
Big12 guy • 07/30/26 06:12 PM ET
You cannot just divide the revenue by 2. The $700 million is as of 2025
RandomAsianGuy • 07/30/26 01:19 PM ET
Haha that's clever. But sounds like too much headache. **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/30/26 12:41 PM ET
Is the reason the B10 and SEC haven't expanded yet due to...?
The_VT_Rock • 07/30/26 07:51 AM ET
The schools being looked at don't pay for themselves
mrcaniac • 07/31/26 07:10 PM ET
If they ever get to that metric.......
2hhoop3 • 07/31/26 08:01 PM ET
They are not expanding because they don’t have to.
HokieAl • 07/30/26 11:44 AM ET
They both, particularly the Big 10
mancunian • 07/30/26 09:22 AM ET
It might be the law of diminishing returns by now.
Maroon Baboon • 07/30/26 08:54 AM ET
The one thing they will need to remember...
The_VT_Rock • 07/30/26 09:18 AM ET
Viewers/ratings makes sense (or cents) if that is the model driving the
VTHokie2000 • 07/30/26 10:12 AM ET
Now I get it. Thanks for clearing that up. **
33laszlo99 • 07/30/26 10:20 AM ET
You are welcome.
VTHokie2000 • 07/30/26 10:29 AM ET
Freddy and College Football
BigMike_ • 07/29/26 08:51 PM ET
Does Freddy even have a job 😆
Maroon Baboon • 07/29/26 11:32 PM ET
Test
GVLHokie • 07/29/26 02:45 PM ET
Anyone following Protect College Sports Act?
RandomAsianGuy • 07/29/26 12:29 PM ET
I'm not, because it's not going to pass, and everyone will have forgotten-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/30/26 10:53 AM ET
I hear you. Many people don't think it's going to pass
RandomAsianGuy • 07/30/26 12:13 PM ET
It may not be as significant as you think because it is likely the law will
VTHokie2000 • 07/30/26 12:24 PM ET
True. But the PCSA will deter the expansion during the legal challenge,
RandomAsianGuy • 07/30/26 12:33 PM ET
Given that the various media contracts end at different times, it would be
VTHokie2000 • 07/30/26 12:57 PM ET
No guarantee. But if I were the P2, I won't bother. Too much headache and
RandomAsianGuy • 07/30/26 01:12 PM ET
All depends on how the contract negotiations are playing out and how much
VTHokie2000 • 07/30/26 01:25 PM ET
The wording is very specific. They can still raid other conferences
HokieAl • 07/29/26 01:56 PM ET
I won't be so sure. We haven't seen the final language but it was reported
RandomAsianGuy • 07/30/26 12:12 PM ET
If that actually makes it into the bill, then I’ll believe it
HokieAl • 07/30/26 12:21 PM ET
I don't think the SEC wants to add more than two. As I said many times
RandomAsianGuy • 07/30/26 12:32 PM ET
No one here is following it obviously **
Sunsetunderground • 07/29/26 01:28 PM ET
For ACC & XII fans this is a ho-hum event. Not so for P2.
33laszlo99 • 07/29/26 03:27 PM ET
If the bill heads to the floor for a vote and the P2s don't "unleash
VTHokie2000 • 07/29/26 03:59 PM ET
The P2 are buying time and hoping to negotiate this bill out of existence.
33laszlo99 • 07/29/26 04:44 PM ET
Honestly, I am not sure the bill has enough votes to pass on either floor.
VTHokie2000 • 07/29/26 05:33 PM ET
What if we have been thinking expansion too much? I have a theory
HokieAl • 07/28/26 11:40 PM ET
i feel everything is largely unpredictable right now
MrBayAreaHokie • 07/29/26 02:53 PM ET
Yep a lot of unpredictable factors
HokieAl • 07/29/26 04:20 PM ET
Apparently, the anti expansion clause in PCSA is not a major sticking point
RandomAsianGuy • 07/29/26 12:36 PM ET
That’s because it is not that strict. See my response above **
HokieAl • 07/29/26 01:56 PM ET
I agree that the little p2 does not have to have 14-20 teams.
VTCALS72 • 07/29/26 07:57 AM ET
I think we need to define what the package deal really means
HokieAl • 07/29/26 08:44 AM ET
The key may be related to local economies, but
Pylons • 07/29/26 10:27 AM ET
I think the VA pressure back in ACC expansion was unique
HokieAl • 07/29/26 11:30 AM ET
And had they not gotten involved we likely are in the SEC already **
HartwoodHokie • 07/29/26 12:04 PM ET
And if the politicians wouldn't stand in the way, there's no package deal
Pylons • 07/29/26 11:37 AM ET
In reality Virginia has 2 flagship schools
VTCALS72 • 07/30/26 07:36 AM ET
Well, I'd say in reality there can really be only one flagship
Pylons • 07/30/26 11:30 AM ET
16. All conference champs. The rest broken down this way...
Maroon Baboon • 07/28/26 06:54 PM ET
What is everyone's ideal College Football Playoff format and structure ?
cburgroop • 07/28/26 12:17 PM ET
The answer to this question is always the same - what the FCS does.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/29/26 10:44 AM ET
I'd be way OK with that, but the G
Big12 guy • 07/29/26 11:12 AM ET
Honestly man, at this point, I'd be happy going back to the pre-1992 system
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/29/26 11:54 AM ET
I like the playoffs better than the
Big12 guy • 07/29/26 12:00 PM ET
I may be a weirdo, but I never had any interest in VT playing in the Rose-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/29/26 12:51 PM ET
Why do they need to consolidate? Just because the P2+2 conferences want
VTHokie2000 • 07/29/26 11:23 AM ET
Because there is no way given the
Big12 guy • 07/29/26 11:34 AM ET
I'm disappointed to hear you repeating the Alabama/Ohio State party line.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/29/26 11:56 AM ET
They would in a consolidated G conference. **
Big12 guy • 07/29/26 12:01 PM ET
Except consolidating conferences together doesn't exactly prove which teams
VTHokie2000 • 07/29/26 01:06 PM ET
But that is just it, how do you know a 3 or 4 loss Akron team "doesn't
VTHokie2000 • 07/29/26 11:43 AM ET
A $40M roster (today) vs a $5M roster
Big12 guy • 07/29/26 11:56 AM ET
Actually, your statement "there is nothing preventing all the FCS schools
VTHokie2000 • 07/29/26 12:21 PM ET
FWIW now that the Ivy League allows teams to participate in the FCS
VTHokie2000 • 07/29/26 11:03 AM ET
True - and I think the MEAC and SWAC don't participate by their own choice. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/29/26 11:50 AM ET
Yes, the SWAC has never participated because their regular season
VTHokie2000 • 07/29/26 12:09 PM ET
No Conference Champ games, go to 16 no byes, if that works go to 24 no byes
Stech • 07/29/26 07:20 AM ET
How do you go .....
2hhoop3 • 07/29/26 09:45 AM ET
I prefer 16, but “if” 24 amend to no byes 1st round, and top ranked 4 n 2nd
Stech • 07/29/26 04:41 PM ET
That is a ......
2hhoop3 • 07/29/26 05:18 PM ET
I agree that 4 byes in the second round is a total mess. That's why 16 is
Stech • 07/29/26 08:06 PM ET
That may be.....
2hhoop3 • 07/29/26 08:12 PM ET
Sure **
Stech • 07/29/26 08:18 PM ET
First round is played on triangular fields with 3 teams/game 😂😂😂 **
Pylons • 07/29/26 10:29 AM ET
20 teams. 10 auto conf champs, 10 at large. 8 team wild card round
HokieAl • 07/28/26 08:15 PM ET
I like 18 structured that way **
Pylons • 07/28/26 04:33 PM ET
I don't really know what the best format would be, but the seeding...
HartwoodHokie • 07/28/26 02:15 PM ET
I'm curious how you define "got it right"
Pylons • 07/29/26 10:41 AM ET
I've always thought you should give every conference champ an automatic
Geekull • 07/28/26 01:56 PM ET
A 32-team playoff with every conference receiving an automatic bid.
VTHokie2000 • 07/28/26 01:54 PM ET
A dislike teams getting a bye. So the current 12 doesn't work.
wwhokie1 • 07/28/26 01:10 PM ET
8 is my pick
MrFantastic! • 07/28/26 12:18 PM ET
I would also be okay with going back to divisions within the conferences
cburgroop • 07/28/26 12:34 PM ET
Wasn't a big reason that former UNC Chancellor Kevin Guskiewicz "left" was
TDVick • 07/26/26 05:48 AM ET
It was alot more, than that
1947Sunbowl • 07/28/26 05:10 PM ET
Excellent context. A couple things overlap with VT. When I think of Sands'
TDVick • 07/29/26 02:10 AM ET
Maryland’s AD was Debbie Yow, Kay Yow’s sister.
RJHokie • 07/28/26 05:36 PM ET
Exactly right RJ......
2hhoop3 • 07/28/26 05:45 PM ET
I agree UNC is a lock for the SEC.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 07:24 AM ET
I would say
MrFantastic! • 07/27/26 11:23 AM ET
ND doesn't want a seat
TerryD • 07/27/26 02:42 PM ET
The sooner the ACC drops these assclowns the better. **
ancient alien 2018 • 07/28/26 11:28 PM ET
Never happening, that is a pipe dream **
TerryD • 07/29/26 02:44 PM ET
It will be interesting to see how things play out when the ACC's GOR comes
VTHokie2000 • 07/29/26 03:01 PM ET
Did I say they would except? NO
MrFantastic! • 07/28/26 06:15 AM ET
It amazes me that many still think the ND will join
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 02:54 PM ET
Moving to the BE would not be beneficial for Notre Dame IMO
cburgroop • 07/28/26 10:55 AM ET
UNC is NOT a premiere football game. I agree
Big12 guy • 07/28/26 11:55 AM ET
I'm saying ND would stay even if the ACC lost its top teams
cburgroop • 07/28/26 12:27 PM ET
Will Notre Dame have any interest traveling to places like:
VTHokie2000 • 07/28/26 01:41 PM ET
I have idea they would stay in watered down ACC. **
MrFantastic! • 07/28/26 06:16 AM ET
So ND is going to pay the ACC exit fee to make less money in the Big East? **
SMU Pony • 07/27/26 05:18 PM ET
If the ACC loses its top football brands and its top basketball brands
VTHokie2000 • 07/28/26 11:25 AM ET
If the ACC loses their top football schools,
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 05:42 PM ET
Notre Dame is a party to the same GOR as every other ACC school
SMU Pony • 07/27/26 07:02 PM ET
I still can't believe the USC-Notre Dame series has been discontinued.
Maroon Baboon • 07/27/26 09:38 PM ET
USC ran away
TerryD • 07/28/26 07:53 AM ET
Didn't the BIG put a kibosh on
Big12 guy • 07/28/26 08:39 AM ET
Those are good points, however,
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 08:21 PM ET
I see you are out.....
2hhoop3 • 07/27/26 05:48 PM ET
Haha, was wondering if you were around today. BTW. it
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 06:02 PM ET
My only opinions are .....
2hhoop3 • 07/27/26 06:19 PM ET
Those are fair opinions, and as aways, i have
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 06:23 PM ET
rotfl!!! thanks for the info, Ms, Cleo. **
ancient alien 2018 • 07/26/26 10:24 PM ET
This youtube makes a lot of sense to me...
TDVick • 07/26/26 04:51 AM ET
2 things I don't understand about the B1G's approach to Southern expansion
Maroon Baboon • 07/26/26 11:51 PM ET
My opinion, it is the old BC thing in ACC expansion
VTCALS72 • 07/27/26 07:54 AM ET
I am once again begging folks to understand that TV markets are no longer-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 11:47 AM ET
I agree with you the model is changing to something new.
VTHokie2000 • 07/28/26 12:18 PM ET
True - I'm sure the "cable channels via streaming" services like Hulu and-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/28/26 12:51 PM ET
FWIW blackouts still exist in the NHL. If Monumental Sports has the
VTHokie2000 • 07/28/26 01:31 PM ET
My inclination is that linear cable and "channels" will just die off.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/28/26 03:00 PM ET
But isn't what you call
VTCALS72 • 07/27/26 03:35 PM ET
There are no more "markets" in the sense that you're selling a bundle of-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 05:05 PM ET
All that still speaks to a process of bringing your product to market
VTCALS72 • 07/27/26 06:04 PM ET
Here's where I think our disconnect on this is-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/28/26 09:45 AM ET
Good post. Fully agree with the general theme of your 2nd paragraph
VTCALS72 • 07/29/26 08:27 AM ET
I always thought it a house of cards to build your business model on
Maroon Baboon • 07/27/26 01:56 PM ET
Duke B-ball with UNC is huge money(maybe) **
MrFantastic! • 07/28/26 06:58 AM ET
Agree with everything in your post 100%.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 02:13 PM ET
Agreed
TerryD • 07/27/26 03:02 PM ET
I think the numbers changed signficantly once the SEC landed Texas and OU
TDVick • 07/27/26 05:53 AM ET
Interesting take, here’ a clickable link for others to make it easier.
Stech • 07/26/26 07:44 PM ET
I leave this board for a few months and I clearly missed a lot of stuff
CobbCountyHokie • 07/22/26 04:13 PM ET
A few comments.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/23/26 07:42 PM ET
So there are SIX new slots and there is a group called Magnificent 7...
TDVick • 07/26/26 04:20 AM ET
Remember history, UNC has been against VT all along
VTCALS72 • 07/26/26 07:01 PM ET
UNC does not have power outside the ACC. They will not control voting by
JM397 • 07/28/26 04:11 PM ET
UMCP+UVa to the B10 and A&M+VT to the SEC could have worked very well.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 05:26 AM ET
You may not be wrong about the ACC losing 4 schools, but I will say this-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 01:19 PM ET
I think there is a very good chance some football brands stay or rather
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 05:58 PM ET
Would be interesting if ACC holds together if just one brand is left
HouClone • 07/27/26 01:57 PM ET
That would be extremely interesting to see play out.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 02:33 PM ET
In that scenario, one must not
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 02:44 PM ET
Interesting take. I think the "domino" is any football brand leaving.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 03:01 PM ET
I like our chances if expansion happens jmo **
Hokie83 • 07/25/26 08:24 AM ET
Me too, for one listen to the ESPN broadcasters talk about Virginia Tech,
Stech • 07/26/26 06:56 AM ET
“I don’t like VT’s chances, but we do have a chance.” you’re consistent but
Stech • 07/24/26 04:08 PM ET
Certainly not arguing, but mind saying why? My concern is that if there
TDVick • 07/26/26 04:40 AM ET
agree
VTCALS72 • 07/26/26 07:05 PM ET
Prior to these recent changes we had zero chance. Now I think
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/24/26 06:38 PM ET
We had a chance before but agree we have increased our odds:) **
Hokie83 • 07/25/26 08:50 AM ET
Bingo! **
Stech • 07/26/26 06:49 AM ET
I always thought Virginia Tech would get in the P2, always. **
Stech • 07/24/26 10:18 PM ET
Do you have reason why that you can explain? I'm eager to hear a good
TDVick • 07/26/26 04:44 AM ET
I think it is the past viewership and fan support along with the size of
JM397 • 07/27/26 12:46 PM ET
I'm just trying to be realistic. I don't often see VT's name mentioned
RandomAsianGuy • 07/24/26 06:32 PM ET
What reputable reporters have said anything about other schools recently?🔗
Stech • 07/24/26 10:10 PM ET
Why don't you google search yourself?
RandomAsianGuy • 07/25/26 02:15 PM ET
A little dated, don’t you think? **
NC Hoke • 07/27/26 04:14 PM ET
Do you have recent report (by reputable reporter) VT is being considered?
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 05:31 PM ET
Haven’t looked for one.
NC Hoke • 07/27/26 05:47 PM ET
Of course. Any reason VT rose and UVa went down during the last 3 years? **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 05:56 PM ET
My opinion is that VT has improved it’s relative standing among tier 2
NC Hoke • 07/27/26 06:41 PM ET
VT needs to show the result first. Our last three year result is awful.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 06:58 PM ET
Frankly, it’s not very convincing.
NC Hoke • 07/28/26 12:40 AM ET
There was sentiment about improving basketball, now the SEC has done it w/o
Stech • 07/26/26 06:32 AM ET
I understand things can change. As I said, VT can improve its chance.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 06:49 AM ET
I don't think anyone knows with any certainty who will get invited
Hokie83 • 07/26/26 08:27 AM ET
Since 🏈 is the economic engine, why does UNC get a pass on that? UCONN 🏀
Stech • 07/26/26 09:51 AM ET
I think the answer is that 90% of the population of NC are UNC fans-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 02:53 PM ET
I have a feeling that it is
Big12 guy • 07/26/26 11:15 AM ET
Agree **
Hokie83 • 07/27/26 06:43 AM ET
I am not discrediting your overall point but I do want to point out in the
HboroughHokie • 07/25/26 03:51 PM ET
I agree. We should still use the logics and consider the business rationale
RandomAsianGuy • 07/25/26 07:00 PM ET
I buy Unc but do not buy Uva
Hokie83 • 07/25/26 03:06 PM ET
Let me ask you this. If UNC has a say in picking its travel partner, which
RandomAsianGuy • 07/25/26 06:58 PM ET
I'm not sure why the assumption is UNC would pick a partner to leave with. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 03:03 PM ET
It wont be up to UNC to choose IMO. And the State of NC will not let them
HboroughHokie • 07/25/26 09:01 PM ET
History demonstrates that a state legislature has never been able to stop-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 03:13 PM ET
Oklahoma State has entered the chat. **
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 03:43 PM ET
Did I miss where the OK legislature stopped OU from leaving the Big 12?
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 04:26 PM ET
The OK legislator tried, but was
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 05:24 PM ET
UNC has run things in their conference for so long, of course they think
VTCALS72 • 07/27/26 08:45 AM ET
It's either UNC+NCSU or UNC+UVa. That's why I said UVa is ahead of VT as of
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 05:18 AM ET
I agree with you, except that the political component is to block UVa going
TDVick • 07/26/26 05:34 AM ET
My opinion has always been based in military strategy
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/26/26 10:22 AM ET
Who are the six (6) in your opinion or from your sources?
HouClone • 07/23/26 02:01 PM ET
Virginia has millions more people than South Carolina, income much higher
Stech • 07/24/26 05:45 PM ET
South Carolina football 2025
Big12 guy • 07/24/26 09:06 PM ET
And San Jose State averaged close to 4 million in their linear TV games
hokie_jayhawk • 07/25/26 08:26 PM ET
90% true. The other 10% is their competitiveness. **
Big12 guy • 07/26/26 09:16 AM ET
That’s better than I thought. **
Stech • 07/24/26 10:04 PM ET
USC had games against VT 5.4m viewers, vs Tx A&M 4.2m, vs Bama 7.8m
HokieAl • 07/28/26 10:29 PM ET
That explains it thanks. Immediately playing SEC games VT’s numbers go up
Stech • 07/29/26 01:16 AM ET
It is a lot like........
2hhoop3 • 07/28/26 10:41 PM ET
Me too! **
Big12 guy • 07/24/26 10:20 PM ET
No UVA??? **
VT4FR • 07/24/26 06:19 AM ET
Word was B1G Presidents didn't think FSU wouldnt be a good partner
Sunsetunderground • 07/23/26 03:57 PM ET
Carolina cannot leave State behind? right? **
MrFantastic! • 07/23/26 02:07 PM ET
Correct, unless both find new homes at the same time in different
ancient alien 2018 • 07/23/26 09:37 PM ET
Can VT leave UVA behind? **
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/23/26 02:16 PM ET
Neither will leave the other behind, preferred in same Conference, but both
Stech • 07/24/26 12:27 PM ET
I would ask if UVa can leave VT behind... **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/23/26 07:25 PM ET
and also. If UVa goes B10 to "help" VT, does the SEC prefer VT over Duke?
TDVick • 07/26/26 05:15 AM ET
Why do you say that? Football TV ratings or the podcasters? I think both
Stech • 07/24/26 05:52 PM ET
I don't like UVa but in my opinion:
RandomAsianGuy • 07/24/26 06:58 PM ET
Do you think expansion is about football TV ratings first? **
Stech • 07/24/26 10:14 PM ET
Do you think VT‘s football rating is higher than the average SEC/B10 team? **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/25/26 02:06 PM ET
The correct way to ask this question would be:
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 03:28 PM ET
I heard that argument many times.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 05:55 PM ET
Answer my question first please. **
Stech • 07/26/26 06:20 AM ET
Sure football ratings matter. But VT is not a football juggernut the SEC
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 06:29 AM ET
You didn’t answer my ?, I said football do football ratings matter most? **
Stech • 07/26/26 06:37 AM ET
Didn't you read my answer? I did say the football ratings matter. **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 06:38 AM ET
You didn’t answer it again, I asked “most”. What matters most?
Stech • 07/26/26 06:48 AM ET
You didn't ask that. Your question was
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 06:54 AM ET
Come on you’re splitting hairs to deflect, first and most mean the same and
Stech • 07/26/26 07:01 AM ET
Football rating usually matters most because it's directly related to media
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 07:12 AM ET
We agree it matters most, Rutgers was forecasting NYC area, because other
Stech • 07/26/26 07:23 AM ET
You better go back and......
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 10:08 AM ET
I said it was the NYC area market. That said, there was a lot of chatter
Stech • 07/26/26 10:29 AM ET
There was chatter.....
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 10:45 AM ET
Almost every team tries to bring another school, but UMd didn’t have much
Stech • 07/26/26 12:20 PM ET
Technically speaking, money matters most. But football rating is usually
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 07:30 AM ET
Yes we have to get back to being what we once were for 20-30 years, but
Stech • 07/26/26 08:04 AM ET
Where does your......
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 09:53 AM ET
I agree it’s not what it used to be, but enthusiasm from broadcasters on
Stech • 07/26/26 10:22 AM ET
I agree the....
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 10:51 AM ET
Some important ones IMHO, I think 3 straight 🏈NC’s by the B10 has changed
Stech • 07/26/26 12:17 PM ET
None of our.....
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 12:34 PM ET
Yep lots of propaganda out there, **
Stech • 07/26/26 06:18 PM ET
No. Tech and UVa are joined. There has to be a home for each or no deal. **
CobbCountyHokie • 07/23/26 02:33 PM ET
Would Uva
MrFantastic! • 07/24/26 06:52 AM ET
Something tells me UVA is not interested in the SEC at all.
Sunsetunderground • 07/24/26 12:06 PM ET
How and by whom? What a terrible notion.
Pylons • 07/23/26 07:11 PM ET
-354 **
ancient alien 2018 • 07/23/26 09:43 PM ET
Yep, it's about that dumb to try to tie them **
Pylons • 07/24/26 12:51 PM ET
Yeah, I've been meaning to do that for a while! **
Pylons • 07/23/26 11:39 PM ET
I would hate to be the politician that required a school to reject
wwhokie1 • 07/23/26 06:59 PM ET
Oregon and Washington both went through this exercise recently.
LonghornHokie • 07/25/26 05:41 PM ET
Agreed. Linking the two is completely non-sensical. **
Pylons • 07/23/26 07:07 PM ET
Revised six with Virginia into P2
HouClone • 07/23/26 04:00 PM ET
Kansas .....
2hhoop3 • 07/24/26 04:21 PM ET
Damn, agree 110% **
Big12 guy • 07/24/26 09:12 PM ET
So VT was required to invest in football but UVA wasn't? Seems odd **
Sunsetunderground • 07/23/26 03:47 PM ET
UVa has plenty of investment in athletics. We need to catch up. **
CobbCountyHokie • 07/23/26 04:25 PM ET
Does UVA have the viewership and fan support to justify moving to the P2?
JM397 • 07/24/26 04:38 PM ET
They don't. UVA will be the problem when it comes to a P2 move, not VT.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 01:02 PM ET
I agree. Makes no logical sense to me when people talk about adding UVA. **
JM397 • 07/28/26 05:58 AM ET
Am thinking VT and NCSU to SEC. UVA and UNC to the Big10 **
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/23/26 03:40 PM ET
NCSU has a remarkable history of futility in football.
LonghornHokie • 07/25/26 05:43 PM ET
that'd make our hoo rivalry game interconference and conf reputation risk!
HtownHokie • 07/23/26 04:54 PM ET
Makes too much sense. It’ll Never happen! **
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/23/26 05:59 PM ET
It would be interesting to know if your source still believes that to be
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 10:01 AM ET
I dont doubt that 20 is the number that maxes revs for b1g and sec schools
Vippie1 • 07/22/26 05:31 PM ET
I really doubt the SEC would grow more than 20. **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/23/26 07:26 PM ET
48 IMHO. for the P2 would be the best number.
Stech • 07/23/26 11:58 AM ET
20 would allow you to do 2 ten team divisions
hokieninsurance • 07/23/26 12:32 AM ET
If they expand Conf Champ game is likely gone, so divisions aren't needed.
Stech • 07/23/26 11:53 AM ET
4 divisions could open the door to expand the CCG into a mini-playoff with
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 01:27 PM ET
Four divisions with five teams each. Play four division games, and five
wwhokie1 • 07/23/26 09:57 PM ET
Could be right, it seems like the trend is 3-4 rivals and rotating others
Stech • 07/23/26 09:05 PM ET
It would open the door for more money and maybe bring back excitement to
VTHokie2000 • 07/25/26 12:00 PM ET
I don't see that happening...
The_VT_Rock • 07/23/26 09:39 AM ET
geographic scheduling pods is
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 10:39 AM ET
SEC can be done easy with 4 PODS of 5
MrFantastic! • 07/23/26 12:57 PM ET
I agree with what you are saying, but remove the word Pods, just call it
Stech • 07/23/26 12:06 PM ET
I'm OK with that, they could call it
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 12:13 PM ET
I would assume
MrFantastic! • 07/23/26 09:06 AM ET
My bet is that they told VT what they had
Big12 guy • 07/22/26 04:44 PM ET
The current proposal in the
Big12 guy • 07/22/26 11:50 AM ET
Would be a rough 5 years. No network, 75 million ACC buyout. Some of the
wwhokie1 • 07/22/26 03:41 PM ET
We needn't argue about specific provisions, restrictions, or rules.
33laszlo99 • 07/22/26 07:10 PM ET
Even if the bill is passed, there will be loopholes that the various groups
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 09:00 AM ET
The original intent of this bill was to force the P2 to pool their media
33laszlo99 • 07/23/26 11:16 AM ET
That may have been the original intent or a potential intent because it was
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 11:30 AM ET
Nevermind what the latest version says. The danger of this law is that our
33laszlo99 • 07/23/26 11:52 AM ET
I realize the language in the bill will change multiple times, so it is
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 12:03 PM ET
You missed the point. It doesn't matter what is in the law on the day it
33laszlo99 • 07/23/26 12:20 PM ET
Maybe it will and maybe it won't because there are still plenty of moving
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 12:39 PM ET
Of course bc nothing to gain or lose either way, right? **
33laszlo99 • 07/23/26 12:46 PM ET
No, it depends on what bill is passed and how the schools interpret it
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 12:56 PM ET
This requirement in the proposed bill is why I suggested forming a new
VTHokie2000 • 07/22/26 02:17 PM ET
I'm not convinced a new conference of the MAG 7 + would be
Big12 guy • 07/22/26 02:49 PM ET
I never said it would be as good as SEC or Big Ten money though. What I am
VTHokie2000 • 07/22/26 04:25 PM ET
What if, .....
Big12 guy • 07/22/26 04:34 PM ET
They could do the same thing that UConn did. Big East is a more likely
VTHokie2000 • 07/22/26 04:41 PM ET
Work arounds like this provide access to the tournament
Big12 guy • 07/22/26 04:52 PM ET
Yes, but if a conference sponsors a sport, then it is very unlikely that
VTHokie2000 • 07/22/26 05:06 PM ET
Hawaii is now a full member. **
33laszlo99 • 07/23/26 11:33 AM ET
They decided to leave the Big West for all non-football sports and re-join
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 11:36 AM ET
Remember this
MrFantastic! • 07/23/26 09:27 AM ET
Yes, some of the ACC schools are basketball-first schools. Those schools
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 09:35 AM ET
Maybe Yormark is on to something
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 10:46 AM ET
The Big East has three FB schools. None is independent.
33laszlo99 • 07/23/26 12:53 PM ET
Butler is a non-football member of the Big East and a football member of
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 02:55 PM ET
It is very possible. Although I do wonder which contract (football or
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 10:55 AM ET
The basketball contract. The Big East does just
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 11:10 AM ET
The Big East doesn't sponsor football though. That could be a huge
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 11:17 AM ET
The idea is to separate football once and for all. **
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 11:22 AM ET
I understand. I am just saying you can't use the Big East as an example of
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 11:35 AM ET
ESPN, as an example, could maintain
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 11:45 AM ET
Except football isn't truly independent from a governing standpoint because
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 11:53 AM ET
The NCAA rules only state that there
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 11:56 AM ET
Actually that is not accurate because the Pioneer Football League, Missouri
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 12:34 PM ET
It's how I understood it, and why
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 12:38 PM ET
FWIW the Big East Football Conference was a football-only conference
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 12:47 PM ET
Doesn't this only apply to movement amongst P4 schools ? Not G5 **
Sunsetunderground • 07/22/26 12:44 PM ET
I don't know, but the G5 schools do not like the provision. **
Big12 guy • 07/22/26 03:02 PM ET
It is insurmountable. That is the point. **
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/22/26 12:25 PM ET
A B1G Blogger
Vippie1 • 07/21/26 11:29 AM ET
I've always said that VT would be a quality candidate for the Big Ten...
Maroon Baboon • 07/23/26 03:34 AM ET
Well first FSU guy says VT on SEC list, now this guy says B1G list 🤔
Stech • 07/21/26 10:52 PM ET
Who knew there would be a bidding war for VT **
Sunsetunderground • 07/22/26 01:00 PM ET
Thought process seems rational to me **
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/21/26 12:08 PM ET
Does to me as well, but it
Big12 guy • 07/21/26 01:04 PM ET
Substack on the latest voting estimtes for the Protect College Sports Act
JM397 • 07/20/26 02:25 PM ET
Protect College Sports Act, not Save **
Pylons • 07/20/26 05:18 PM ET
Thanks for correcting my honest mistake. I have edited the previous post. **
JM397 • 07/21/26 05:42 AM ET
Could happen to anyone... **
33laszlo99 • 07/20/26 08:08 PM ET
So why do the SEC and B1G want to require 5 years of independence
Sunsetunderground • 07/20/26 12:52 PM ET
Wouldn't we have two slots open then? So, who has money in the G6?
Truthahn • 07/22/26 09:10 AM ET
There is some Zoomer congressional staffer trolling us.
Maroon Baboon • 07/20/26 04:38 PM ET
Haha, wow that kneecaps the ACC and B12 but doesn’t hurt P2
HokieAl • 07/20/26 04:15 PM ET
To cap conference realignment so that the P2 won't get too big....
TerryD • 07/20/26 02:13 PM ET
That seems more like the government’s latest proposal.
hokieball • 07/20/26 01:35 PM ET
Consequnces of the "Save" act.
33laszlo99 • 07/17/26 02:53 PM ET
If it passes I think P2 expand now, and I was surprised to hear it’s 50-50
Stech • 07/19/26 07:07 PM ET
Stech, I am not a lawyer, so can you explain to me how that is possible?
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/20/26 10:07 AM ET
Congress has the authority to pass the proposed "Protect College Sports Act
Stech • 07/20/26 08:26 PM ET
Wonder if we will ever have the clarity we used to have **
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/20/26 08:35 PM ET
I wonder the same **
Stech • 07/20/26 08:38 PM ET
Are you familiar with the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961? To the best of
VTHokie2000 • 07/20/26 02:13 PM ET
Great info. Thanks! **
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/20/26 02:20 PM ET
You are welcome. It is worth noting only the NFL so far has taken
VTHokie2000 • 07/20/26 02:30 PM ET
Commerce Clause of the Constitution
TerryD • 07/20/26 02:09 PM ET
Thanks **
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/20/26 02:10 PM ET
Anti trust? **
Big12 guy • 07/20/26 11:10 AM ET
It is definitely an attempt at anti-trust legislation. I just don't know
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/20/26 11:21 AM ET
I think the P2 are feigning cautious approval of the bill while they plan
33laszlo99 • 07/19/26 10:33 PM ET
The Big Ten and SEC are the ones...
TerryD • 07/20/26 02:11 PM ET
Do you have inside info? **
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/20/26 11:26 AM ET
None whatsoever, Chem. Just POV of an SEC guy. **
33laszlo99 • 07/20/26 12:40 PM ET
SAC St and NDSU moves have
Big12 guy • 07/20/26 08:18 AM ET
After a quick skim of what's in there,
Pylons • 07/18/26 01:10 PM ET
The bill would prohibit expansion for the Power Conferences if passed, but
Stech • 07/19/26 11:35 PM ET
Does it really do that?
Pylons • 07/20/26 12:09 PM ET
The latest proposed revisions to the bill...
TerryD • 07/20/26 03:06 PM ET
Ok. Thanks. Strange provision. **
Pylons • 07/20/26 03:14 PM ET
The Save Act has nothing to do with college sports. **
RVAHokie05 • 07/18/26 08:47 AM ET
Oh is my face red...
33laszlo99 • 07/18/26 08:58 AM ET
The ACC revenue will exceed $900 million for the 2025-2026 season.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/16/26 08:57 AM ET
Your post gives me the impression that you don't believe the Big XII's
VTHokie2000 • 07/16/26 12:51 PM ET
I don't know if the B12 has the look-in provision.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/17/26 12:01 AM ET
Since they will have a new media contract in 2031, then I'm not following
VTHokie2000 • 07/17/26 10:04 AM ET
That's a certainly possibility. I didn't rule it out.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/18/26 12:12 AM ET
The fact that you call it a "miraculous mega deal" gives the impression you
VTHokie2000 • 07/20/26 01:06 PM ET
It's a very long shot in my opinion.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/21/26 12:18 AM ET
But the new media deal won't be uncertain because that would one of the
VTHokie2000 • 07/21/26 08:30 AM ET
Maybe. But deals are not always easily finalized and there are many moving
RandomAsianGuy • 07/21/26 12:00 PM ET
I didn't say they would be finalized though. What I am saying is that the
VTHokie2000 • 07/21/26 12:17 PM ET
Yes and what I am saying is that unless the deal is finalized, there is
RandomAsianGuy • 07/21/26 09:01 PM ET
I understand, but I am not sure you can use the past to predict the future.
VTHokie2000 • 07/22/26 09:50 AM ET
I think I understand your point. But I stand by my position.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/22/26 06:25 PM ET
If the ACC schools aren't going to sign a new GOR for the ACC's next
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 08:52 AM ET
We can discuss all the possibilities no matter how unlikely they are.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/23/26 07:09 PM ET
I don't see any conference signing contracts
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 12:23 PM ET
FWIW the AAC's current contract is for 11 years (ends in 2031). While the
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 03:24 PM ET
The new contract includes the 4 corners, the
Big12 guy • 07/22/26 10:22 AM ET
The 4 corners will increase the value of the next contract. Those schools
VTHokie2000 • 07/22/26 11:44 AM ET
The B12 will not leap frog the ACC with the
Big12 guy • 07/22/26 11:59 AM ET
I agree with you. It is unclear to me if all the ACC schools are willing
VTHokie2000 • 07/22/26 12:09 PM ET
"If they have the invite" **
Big12 guy • 07/22/26 12:13 PM ET
Who says they can't form a new conference? **
VTHokie2000 • 07/22/26 12:18 PM ET
Money, and it doesn't get them into the P2 which is the goal. **
Big12 guy • 07/22/26 12:20 PM ET
Depending on what happens in Congress, P2 may no longer be their goal
VTHokie2000 • 07/22/26 12:28 PM ET
This. If those schools were on the table, I could see the distributions
Big12 guy • 07/21/26 12:27 PM ET
Correct. The Big XII wouldn't be able to catch the Big Ten or SEC, but it
VTHokie2000 • 07/21/26 03:16 PM ET
Even I agree with that. $75M is way too
Big12 guy • 07/21/26 06:36 AM ET
I think the other way around is more likely. And that is my "prediction" **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/21/26 12:02 PM ET
To each his own. Just for the record, the only
Big12 guy • 07/21/26 12:05 PM ET
I hear your point. The unequal revenue sharing addresses that issue to some
RandomAsianGuy • 07/21/26 12:11 PM ET
I'm watching that VERY closely. It could be the future of not
Big12 guy • 07/21/26 12:20 PM ET
I think the B10 will switch. The B12 will probably have a discussion. **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/21/26 09:02 PM ET
There are discussion on renegotiating the
Big12 guy • 07/16/26 01:30 PM ET
I do think it would be a long shot if the Big XII were to land all 3 of
VTHokie2000 • 07/16/26 04:38 PM ET
The only way I see that happening is
Big12 guy • 07/16/26 05:20 PM ET
The ACC might be "locked in," but its programs aren't, at least long term.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/17/26 10:30 AM ET
If the football schools are not going to sign another GOR, then it is very
VTHokie2000 • 07/17/26 12:24 PM ET
Agree with you 100% **
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/17/26 01:28 PM ET
On schools leaving the ACC for the P2, it
Big12 guy • 07/17/26 12:44 PM ET
I agree, but Congress may have a say on whether the P2 can even expand or
VTHokie2000 • 07/17/26 01:38 PM ET
Money is important to the "football schools" in the ACC. However, I would
VTHokie2000 • 07/16/26 05:54 PM ET
The Academics in the ACC is outstanding. I don't think you
Big12 guy • 07/16/26 06:48 PM ET
The academics in the ACC is outstanding. How much interaction does a
VTHokie2000 • 07/17/26 09:49 AM ET
One has to consider how the president looks
Big12 guy • 07/17/26 09:54 AM ET
I agree that college presidents place importance on being in an academia
VTHokie2000 • 07/17/26 12:15 PM ET
I agree with all of that. my point is that there are
Big12 guy • 07/17/26 12:27 PM ET
For the university presidents that don't see investing into athletics as
VTHokie2000 • 07/17/26 12:36 PM ET
Which schools are you referring? **
Big12 guy • 07/17/26 12:41 PM ET
You made the statement "my point is that there are..." so I am going to
VTHokie2000 • 07/17/26 01:35 PM ET
Carol Christ, former Chancellor at Cal Brky openly objected to the large
33laszlo99 • 07/21/26 08:34 AM ET
I know there are schools or leadership at schools that believe that
VTHokie2000 • 07/21/26 08:55 AM ET
Not trying to flame here, but - who cares? The Big 12 ain't the competition
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/16/26 09:57 AM ET
I think we agree that the ACC will not beat the SEC/B10 in terms of money
RandomAsianGuy • 07/17/26 12:20 AM ET
Let's stipulate that 2-3 big brands leave the ACC in 2029 or 2030-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/17/26 10:03 AM ET
If the P2 skim off the top of the ACC, the money gap between the ACC and
Maroon Baboon • 07/17/26 03:24 AM ET
Remember the ACC contract is through 2036. That's the whole point.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/18/26 12:19 AM ET
Bingo. Great post. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/17/26 10:04 AM ET
I think his point was......
2hhoop3 • 07/16/26 10:30 AM ET
Is anyone on here saying that anyone would take a pay cut to go to the XII?
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/16/26 10:33 AM ET
People have said it .....
2hhoop3 • 07/16/26 10:37 AM ET
I've never once said that, but OK, whatever.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/16/26 10:47 AM ET
I have a brain and don't think it's inevitable that schools will be leaving
wwhokie1 • 07/17/26 08:20 PM ET
"...they may take a look at the finances..."??? I'm pretty sure they have
33laszlo99 • 07/21/26 07:42 PM ET
People have plenty of evidence......
2hhoop3 • 07/16/26 10:52 AM ET
Thanks for the kind words. For the record, I don't think you or anyone here
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/16/26 12:05 PM ET
I will not make.....
2hhoop3 • 07/16/26 12:30 PM ET
"I said you said it but I left out all context & 99% of what you said!"
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/16/26 12:40 PM ET
Take your......
2hhoop3 • 07/16/26 12:44 PM ET
Unfortunately, one cannot win an argument vs. a fence post.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/16/26 12:58 PM ET
The B12 has top tier schools? There
Big12 guy • 07/16/26 09:07 AM ET
Sometime in the next decade there will be a "best of the rest" conference
Maroon Baboon • 07/17/26 03:31 AM ET
I agree, and think it will be a new conference, primarily because there's-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/17/26 10:23 AM ET
I am 99% sure VT will make money than the B12 schools. But we will see. **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/17/26 12:05 AM ET
Could be. I will find it very interesting
Big12 guy • 07/17/26 07:32 AM ET
Jim Phillips "I want people to want to be in the ACC, not forced"
Athens • 07/16/26 01:53 AM ET
I think the ACC might get predatory again in future (depending on DC law)
HokieAl • 07/16/26 02:11 PM ET
It's a throwaway line.
Maroon Baboon • 07/16/26 01:27 PM ET
The ACC is prepared to take some hits around 2030.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/16/26 08:45 AM ET
Maybe not. If all of a sudden FSU,
Big12 guy • 07/16/26 03:13 PM ET
Well, of course a school in Memphis' situation wants in, not out.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/16/26 04:10 PM ET
With respect, they did not offer the ACC any money. **
Big12 guy • 07/16/26 04:12 PM ET
You mean that we know of. I assume that they would make the same offer-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/16/26 04:19 PM ET
True, we will never know what happens behind closed doors. **
Big12 guy • 07/16/26 05:22 PM ET
You should get off.....
2hhoop3 • 07/16/26 04:59 PM ET
You think SMU never lobbied for an invite to the Big 12?
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/17/26 10:11 AM ET
I imagine it is....
2hhoop3 • 07/17/26 10:26 AM ET
Ok, pa-paw. Go take your morning nap before you flame me again.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/17/26 10:35 AM ET
Your usual....
2hhoop3 • 07/17/26 10:47 AM ET
Hey - don't dis Hee Haw, that's going too far. **
Big12 guy • 07/17/26 10:38 AM ET
Full disclosure: I love Hee Haw. Almost all of it is on YouTube.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/17/26 10:44 AM ET
Good, wholesome, family entertainment...
HokieNL • 07/17/26 10:42 AM ET
Don't forget Buck! We could all use some pickin' and a grinnin' **
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/17/26 10:44 AM ET
You vs. Baltimore in a steel cage match. Pay Per View! Big $$$!!! **
HokieNL • 07/16/26 05:31 PM ET
It's only a fight in his imagination. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/17/26 10:35 AM ET
Not in my imagination......
2hhoop3 • 07/17/26 10:49 AM ET
There may have been other factors that influenced the Big XII's decision
VTHokie2000 • 07/16/26 04:54 PM ET
I don't disagree with you on the concept of rivalries being important.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/17/26 10:16 AM ET
I agree with you that WVU should have been at the top of the ACC's list.
VTHokie2000 • 07/20/26 05:26 PM ET
I think the B12 passed on SMU only
Big12 guy • 07/16/26 05:27 PM ET
Why not add both then? **
VTHokie2000 • 07/16/26 05:56 PM ET
They didn't ask my opinion? **
Big12 guy • 07/17/26 09:29 AM ET
It is a valid question to ask because adding Houston may not have really
VTHokie2000 • 07/17/26 09:57 AM ET
I didn't like the Houston add, but
Big12 guy • 07/17/26 10:03 AM ET
Cincy has a basketball history. While Houston's basketball history isn't
VTHokie2000 • 07/17/26 12:33 PM ET
USF has a dismal basketball history, but they
Big12 guy • 07/17/26 12:40 PM ET
I do question the level of importance an on campus stadium is to the Big
VTHokie2000 • 07/20/26 04:00 PM ET
Probably about as much as academics, until it doesn't. **
Big12 guy • 07/20/26 08:46 PM ET
The Aflac Kickoff game announced that it
Big12 guy • 07/14/26 06:01 PM ET
Everything in college football is moving away from meaningful Saturdays
Maroon Baboon • 07/15/26 11:09 PM ET
This is concerning
HokieAl • 07/15/26 11:18 AM ET
And imagine trading out one of the great venues an home field advantages
Maroon Baboon • 07/15/26 11:18 PM ET
Screws the fans too
turner66 • 07/15/26 07:22 PM ET
It was announced awhile back **
SMU Pony • 07/15/26 08:43 PM ET
Since when do fans and local businesses matter? **
Tailgate Guru • 07/15/26 07:34 PM ET
VT v UT at Bristol Motor Speedway, but split the NIL money please!!! **
Stech • 07/14/26 08:16 PM ET
Since Auburn played at Baylor in 2025 and the 2026 game was the back half
VTHokie2000 • 07/14/26 07:11 PM ET
Players getting NIL payments to play neutral site games seems like a
wwhokie1 • 07/14/26 07:39 PM ET
Basketball already opened that door with the postseason tournament in Las
VTHokie2000 • 07/14/26 08:04 PM ET
Agreed. Playing at a neutral site is a bonus for them, and
Big12 guy • 07/14/26 07:20 PM ET
I wonder if Baylor is kicking themselves for not thinking of the idea last
VTHokie2000 • 07/14/26 08:03 PM ET
Is Big 12’s $20M Monster Jersey Patch Deal Too Cheap?
RandomAsianGuy • 07/10/26 02:10 AM ET
Yes way too cheap, but why? Younger international branding get it, but pay
Stech • 07/11/26 12:48 PM ET
It does appear to be a bad deal. One thing I read that may add context-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/26 03:41 PM ET
These conferences think they are the draw
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/13/26 10:49 AM ET
Appears to be cheap. Heard they could have gotten more for say Allstate
HouClone • 07/10/26 07:47 AM ET
I hear the ACC is entertaining offers from Charmin and Snuggle. TIC **
MP4VT2004 • 07/12/26 06:57 PM ET
As long as it is not Preparation H **
Truthahn • 07/13/26 12:30 PM ET
Well, since Charmin is made by Procter and Gamble,
RJHokie • 07/12/26 08:25 PM ET
If it means money, certainly SEC and B10 will **
83Hokie • 07/12/26 01:31 PM ET
The P2 will demand 10X as much for the same size patch. **
EDGEMAN • 07/12/26 02:50 PM ET
also doesnt allow schools to market their own brand
1947Sunbowl • 07/10/26 08:47 AM ET
KU just entered into an agreement to have
Big12 guy • 07/13/26 12:02 PM ET
Right. Free money IMO. I want some of that. **
Truthahn • 07/13/26 12:33 PM ET
Not what I read - I read that the Monster Logo is going to be implemented-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/26 03:49 PM ET
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