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Come on you’re splitting hairs to deflect, first and most mean the same and

you know it. Nobody is that dumb to not know that. TV ratings bring the most money, so instead of deflecting, just say TV ratings matter the most or they don’t, and don’t dance the question. I will immediately answer your question once you stop dodging my exact question. ** Edited by Stech at 7/26/2026, 7:02:27 AM
Posted: 07/26/2026 at 07:01 AM ET
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I leave this board for a few months and I clearly missed a lot of stuff
CobbCountyHokie • 07/22/26 04:13 PM ET
A few comments.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/23/26 07:42 PM ET
So there are SIX new slots and there is a group called Magnificent 7...
TDVick • 07/26/26 04:20 AM ET
Remember history, UNC has been against VT all along
VTCALS72 • 07/26/26 07:01 PM ET
UNC does not have power outside the ACC. They will not control voting by
JM397 • 07/28/26 04:11 PM ET
UMCP+UVa to the B10 and A&M+VT to the SEC could have worked very well.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 05:26 AM ET
You may not be wrong about the ACC losing 4 schools, but I will say this-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 01:19 PM ET
I think there is a very good chance some football brands stay or rather
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 05:58 PM ET
Would be interesting if ACC holds together if just one brand is left
HouClone • 07/27/26 01:57 PM ET
That would be extremely interesting to see play out.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 02:33 PM ET
In that scenario, one must not
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 02:44 PM ET
Interesting take. I think the "domino" is any football brand leaving.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 03:01 PM ET
I like our chances if expansion happens jmo**
Hokie83 • 07/25/26 08:24 AM ET
Me too, for one listen to the ESPN broadcasters talk about Virginia Tech,
Stech • 07/26/26 06:56 AM ET
“I don’t like VT’s chances, but we do have a chance.” you’re consistent but
Stech • 07/24/26 04:08 PM ET
Certainly not arguing, but mind saying why? My concern is that if there
TDVick • 07/26/26 04:40 AM ET
agree
VTCALS72 • 07/26/26 07:05 PM ET
Prior to these recent changes we had zero chance. Now I think
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/24/26 06:38 PM ET
We had a chance before but agree we have increased our odds:)**
Hokie83 • 07/25/26 08:50 AM ET
Bingo!**
Stech • 07/26/26 06:49 AM ET
I always thought Virginia Tech would get in the P2, always.**
Stech • 07/24/26 10:18 PM ET
Do you have reason why that you can explain? I'm eager to hear a good
TDVick • 07/26/26 04:44 AM ET
I think it is the past viewership and fan support along with the size of
JM397 • 07/27/26 12:46 PM ET
I'm just trying to be realistic. I don't often see VT's name mentioned
RandomAsianGuy • 07/24/26 06:32 PM ET
What reputable reporters have said anything about other schools recently?🔗
Stech • 07/24/26 10:10 PM ET
Why don't you google search yourself?
RandomAsianGuy • 07/25/26 02:15 PM ET
A little dated, don’t you think?**
NC Hoke • 07/27/26 04:14 PM ET
Do you have recent report (by reputable reporter) VT is being considered?
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 05:31 PM ET
Haven’t looked for one.
NC Hoke • 07/27/26 05:47 PM ET
Of course. Any reason VT rose and UVa went down during the last 3 years?**
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 05:56 PM ET
My opinion is that VT has improved it’s relative standing among tier 2
NC Hoke • 07/27/26 06:41 PM ET
VT needs to show the result first. Our last three year result is awful.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 06:58 PM ET
Frankly, it’s not very convincing.
NC Hoke • 07/28/26 12:40 AM ET
There was sentiment about improving basketball, now the SEC has done it w/o
Stech • 07/26/26 06:32 AM ET
I understand things can change. As I said, VT can improve its chance.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 06:49 AM ET
I don't think anyone knows with any certainty who will get invited
Hokie83 • 07/26/26 08:27 AM ET
Since 🏈 is the economic engine, why does UNC get a pass on that? UCONN 🏀
Stech • 07/26/26 09:51 AM ET
I think the answer is that 90% of the population of NC are UNC fans-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 02:53 PM ET
I have a feeling that it is
Big12 guy • 07/26/26 11:15 AM ET
Agree**
Hokie83 • 07/27/26 06:43 AM ET
I am not discrediting your overall point but I do want to point out in the
HboroughHokie • 07/25/26 03:51 PM ET
I agree. We should still use the logics and consider the business rationale
RandomAsianGuy • 07/25/26 07:00 PM ET
I buy Unc but do not buy Uva
Hokie83 • 07/25/26 03:06 PM ET
Let me ask you this. If UNC has a say in picking its travel partner, which
RandomAsianGuy • 07/25/26 06:58 PM ET
I'm not sure why the assumption is UNC would pick a partner to leave with.**
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 03:03 PM ET
It wont be up to UNC to choose IMO. And the State of NC will not let them
HboroughHokie • 07/25/26 09:01 PM ET
History demonstrates that a state legislature has never been able to stop-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 03:13 PM ET
Oklahoma State has entered the chat. **
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 03:43 PM ET
Did I miss where the OK legislature stopped OU from leaving the Big 12?
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 04:26 PM ET
The OK legislator tried, but was
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 05:24 PM ET
UNC has run things in their conference for so long, of course they think
VTCALS72 • 07/27/26 08:45 AM ET
It's either UNC+NCSU or UNC+UVa. That's why I said UVa is ahead of VT as of
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 05:18 AM ET
I agree with you, except that the political component is to block UVa going
TDVick • 07/26/26 05:34 AM ET
My opinion has always been based in military strategy
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/26/26 10:22 AM ET
Who are the six (6) in your opinion or from your sources?
HouClone • 07/23/26 02:01 PM ET
Virginia has millions more people than South Carolina, income much higher
Stech • 07/24/26 05:45 PM ET
South Carolina football 2025
Big12 guy • 07/24/26 09:06 PM ET
And San Jose State averaged close to 4 million in their linear TV games
hokie_jayhawk • 07/25/26 08:26 PM ET
90% true. The other 10% is their competitiveness. **
Big12 guy • 07/26/26 09:16 AM ET
That’s better than I thought.**
Stech • 07/24/26 10:04 PM ET
USC had games against VT 5.4m viewers, vs Tx A&M 4.2m, vs Bama 7.8m
HokieAl • 07/28/26 10:29 PM ET
That explains it thanks. Immediately playing SEC games VT’s numbers go up
Stech • 07/29/26 01:16 AM ET
It is a lot like........
2hhoop3 • 07/28/26 10:41 PM ET
Me too! **
Big12 guy • 07/24/26 10:20 PM ET
No UVA???**
VT4FR • 07/24/26 06:19 AM ET
Word was B1G Presidents didn't think FSU wouldnt be a good partner
Sunsetunderground • 07/23/26 03:57 PM ET
Carolina cannot leave State behind? right?**
MrFantastic! • 07/23/26 02:07 PM ET
Correct, unless both find new homes at the same time in different
ancient alien 2018 • 07/23/26 09:37 PM ET
Can VT leave UVA behind?**
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/23/26 02:16 PM ET
Neither will leave the other behind, preferred in same Conference, but both
Stech • 07/24/26 12:27 PM ET
I would ask if UVa can leave VT behind...**
RandomAsianGuy • 07/23/26 07:25 PM ET
and also. If UVa goes B10 to "help" VT, does the SEC prefer VT over Duke?
TDVick • 07/26/26 05:15 AM ET
Why do you say that? Football TV ratings or the podcasters? I think both
Stech • 07/24/26 05:52 PM ET
I don't like UVa but in my opinion:
RandomAsianGuy • 07/24/26 06:58 PM ET
Do you think expansion is about football TV ratings first?**
Stech • 07/24/26 10:14 PM ET
Do you think VT‘s football rating is higher than the average SEC/B10 team?**
RandomAsianGuy • 07/25/26 02:06 PM ET
The correct way to ask this question would be:
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 03:28 PM ET
I heard that argument many times.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 05:55 PM ET
Answer my question first please.**
Stech • 07/26/26 06:20 AM ET
Sure football ratings matter. But VT is not a football juggernut the SEC
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 06:29 AM ET
You didn’t answer my ?, I said football do football ratings matter most?**
Stech • 07/26/26 06:37 AM ET
Didn't you read my answer? I did say the football ratings matter. **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 06:38 AM ET
You didn’t answer it again, I asked “most”. What matters most?
Stech • 07/26/26 06:48 AM ET
You didn't ask that. Your question was
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 06:54 AM ET
Come on you’re splitting hairs to deflect, first and most mean the same and ◄
Stech • 07/26/26 07:01 AM ET
Football rating usually matters most because it's directly related to media
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 07:12 AM ET
We agree it matters most, Rutgers was forecasting NYC area, because other
Stech • 07/26/26 07:23 AM ET
You better go back and......
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 10:08 AM ET
I said it was the NYC area market. That said, there was a lot of chatter
Stech • 07/26/26 10:29 AM ET
There was chatter.....
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 10:45 AM ET
Almost every team tries to bring another school, but UMd didn’t have much
Stech • 07/26/26 12:20 PM ET
Technically speaking, money matters most. But football rating is usually
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 07:30 AM ET
Yes we have to get back to being what we once were for 20-30 years, but
Stech • 07/26/26 08:04 AM ET
Where does your......
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 09:53 AM ET
I agree it’s not what it used to be, but enthusiasm from broadcasters on
Stech • 07/26/26 10:22 AM ET
I agree the....
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 10:51 AM ET
Some important ones IMHO, I think 3 straight 🏈NC’s by the B10 has changed
Stech • 07/26/26 12:17 PM ET
None of our.....
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 12:34 PM ET
Yep lots of propaganda out there,**
Stech • 07/26/26 06:18 PM ET
No. Tech and UVa are joined. There has to be a home for each or no deal.**
CobbCountyHokie • 07/23/26 02:33 PM ET
Would Uva
MrFantastic! • 07/24/26 06:52 AM ET
Something tells me UVA is not interested in the SEC at all.
Sunsetunderground • 07/24/26 12:06 PM ET
How and by whom? What a terrible notion.
Pylons • 07/23/26 07:11 PM ET
-354**
ancient alien 2018 • 07/23/26 09:43 PM ET
Yep, it's about that dumb to try to tie them**
Pylons • 07/24/26 12:51 PM ET
Yeah, I've been meaning to do that for a while!**
Pylons • 07/23/26 11:39 PM ET
I would hate to be the politician that required a school to reject
wwhokie1 • 07/23/26 06:59 PM ET
Oregon and Washington both went through this exercise recently.
LonghornHokie • 07/25/26 05:41 PM ET
Agreed. Linking the two is completely non-sensical.**
Pylons • 07/23/26 07:07 PM ET
Revised six with Virginia into P2
HouClone • 07/23/26 04:00 PM ET
Kansas .....
2hhoop3 • 07/24/26 04:21 PM ET
Damn, agree 110%**
Big12 guy • 07/24/26 09:12 PM ET
So VT was required to invest in football but UVA wasn't? Seems odd**
Sunsetunderground • 07/23/26 03:47 PM ET
UVa has plenty of investment in athletics. We need to catch up.**
CobbCountyHokie • 07/23/26 04:25 PM ET
Does UVA have the viewership and fan support to justify moving to the P2?
JM397 • 07/24/26 04:38 PM ET
They don't. UVA will be the problem when it comes to a P2 move, not VT.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 01:02 PM ET
I agree. Makes no logical sense to me when people talk about adding UVA.**
JM397 • 07/28/26 05:58 AM ET
Am thinking VT and NCSU to SEC. UVA and UNC to the Big10**
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/23/26 03:40 PM ET
NCSU has a remarkable history of futility in football.
LonghornHokie • 07/25/26 05:43 PM ET
that'd make our hoo rivalry game interconference and conf reputation risk!
HtownHokie • 07/23/26 04:54 PM ET
Makes too much sense. It’ll Never happen!**
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/23/26 05:59 PM ET
It would be interesting to know if your source still believes that to be
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 10:01 AM ET
I dont doubt that 20 is the number that maxes revs for b1g and sec schools
Vippie1 • 07/22/26 05:31 PM ET
I really doubt the SEC would grow more than 20.**
RandomAsianGuy • 07/23/26 07:26 PM ET
48 IMHO. for the P2 would be the best number.
Stech • 07/23/26 11:58 AM ET
20 would allow you to do 2 ten team divisions
hokieninsurance • 07/23/26 12:32 AM ET
If they expand Conf Champ game is likely gone, so divisions aren't needed.
Stech • 07/23/26 11:53 AM ET
4 divisions could open the door to expand the CCG into a mini-playoff with
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 01:27 PM ET
Four divisions with five teams each. Play four division games, and five
wwhokie1 • 07/23/26 09:57 PM ET
Could be right, it seems like the trend is 3-4 rivals and rotating others
Stech • 07/23/26 09:05 PM ET
It would open the door for more money and maybe bring back excitement to
VTHokie2000 • 07/25/26 12:00 PM ET
I don't see that happening...
The_VT_Rock • 07/23/26 09:39 AM ET
geographic scheduling pods is
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 10:39 AM ET
SEC can be done easy with 4 PODS of 5
MrFantastic! • 07/23/26 12:57 PM ET
I agree with what you are saying, but remove the word Pods, just call it
Stech • 07/23/26 12:06 PM ET
I'm OK with that, they could call it
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 12:13 PM ET
I would assume
MrFantastic! • 07/23/26 09:06 AM ET
My bet is that they told VT what they had
Big12 guy • 07/22/26 04:44 PM ET