You think SMU never lobbied for an invite to the Big 12?
You sure about that? You SURE about that? They were begging everyone for a life raft, for years, right up until the ACC decided to give them one. I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to assume they would have done the exact same thing they did to get into the ACC if they could have gotten into the PAC or the Big 12. Stop acting like everything I say is outlandish; it's played out, man.
And, just for the record, I never said SMU offered the exact same deal to the Big 12 that they offered to the ACC. I said MEMPHIS did, and the Big 12 told them to pound sand. So, when you try to act like my positions are way out on planet Mars, it's a reasonable response to say, "well, the Big 12 didn't seem to think so."
Frankly, it's exhausting going back and forth with you on here if you're going to misrepresent or outright misquote everything I say. Going forward, unless you have something to add to the conversation, before you post, let's just assume you think I'm the world's biggest idiot and that you hate me, and that you were going to post some super clever zinger that made me realize I'm completely wrong, cause me to cry myself to sleep, and then you can just not post. Does that sound like a reasonable compromise?
Thread Replies (32)
Jim Phillips "I want people to want to be in the ACC, not forced"
-- Athens
Jul 16, 2026 at 01:53 AM ET
Athens
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07/16/26 01:53 AM ET
I think the ACC might get predatory again in future (depending on DC law)
-- HokieAl
Jul 16, 2026 at 02:11 PM ET
HokieAl
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07/16/26 02:11 PM ET
It's a throwaway line.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 16, 2026 at 01:27 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/16/26 01:27 PM ET
The ACC is prepared to take some hits around 2030.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 16, 2026 at 08:45 AM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/16/26 08:45 AM ET
Maybe not. If all of a sudden FSU,
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2026 at 03:13 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/26 03:13 PM ET
Well, of course a school in Memphis' situation wants in, not out.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2026 at 04:10 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/16/26 04:10 PM ET
With respect, they did not offer the ACC any money. **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2026 at 04:12 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/26 04:12 PM ET
You mean that we know of. I assume that they would make the same offer-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2026 at 04:19 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/16/26 04:19 PM ET
True, we will never know what happens behind closed doors. **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2026 at 05:22 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/26 05:22 PM ET
You think SMU never lobbied for an invite to the Big 12?
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-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:11 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/17/26 10:11 AM ET
Ok, pa-paw. Go take your morning nap before you flame me again.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:35 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/17/26 10:35 AM ET
Hey - don't dis Hee Haw, that's going too far. **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:38 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/17/26 10:38 AM ET
Full disclosure: I love Hee Haw. Almost all of it is on YouTube.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:44 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/17/26 10:44 AM ET
Good, wholesome, family entertainment...
-- HokieNL
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:42 AM ET
HokieNL
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07/17/26 10:42 AM ET
Don't forget Buck! We could all use some pickin' and a grinnin'**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:44 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/17/26 10:44 AM ET
You vs. Baltimore in a steel cage match. Pay Per View! Big $$$!!!**
-- HokieNL
Jul 16, 2026 at 05:31 PM ET
HokieNL
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07/16/26 05:31 PM ET
It's only a fight in his imagination.**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:35 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/17/26 10:35 AM ET
There may have been other factors that influenced the Big XII's decision
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 16, 2026 at 04:54 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/16/26 04:54 PM ET
I don't disagree with you on the concept of rivalries being important.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:16 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/17/26 10:16 AM ET
I agree with you that WVU should have been at the top of the ACC's list.
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 20, 2026 at 05:26 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/20/26 05:26 PM ET
I think the B12 passed on SMU only
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2026 at 05:27 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/26 05:27 PM ET
Why not add both then?**
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 16, 2026 at 05:56 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/16/26 05:56 PM ET
They didn't ask my opinion? **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 17, 2026 at 09:29 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/17/26 09:29 AM ET
It is a valid question to ask because adding Houston may not have really
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 17, 2026 at 09:57 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/17/26 09:57 AM ET
I didn't like the Houston add, but
-- Big12 guy
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:03 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/17/26 10:03 AM ET
Cincy has a basketball history. While Houston's basketball history isn't
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 17, 2026 at 12:33 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/17/26 12:33 PM ET
USF has a dismal basketball history, but they
-- Big12 guy
Jul 17, 2026 at 12:40 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/17/26 12:40 PM ET
I do question the level of importance an on campus stadium is to the Big
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 20, 2026 at 04:00 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/20/26 04:00 PM ET
Probably about as much as academics, until it doesn't. **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 20, 2026 at 08:46 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/20/26 08:46 PM ET