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JM397

Does UVA have the viewership and fan support to justify moving to the P2?

I think that is the problem for them, not money.
Posted: 07/24/2026 at 04:38 PM ET
(In response to this post by CobbCountyHokie)

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I leave this board for a few months and I clearly missed a lot of stuff
CobbCountyHokie • 07/22/26 04:13 PM ET
A few comments.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/23/26 07:42 PM ET
So there are SIX new slots and there is a group called Magnificent 7...
TDVick • 07/26/26 04:20 AM ET
Remember history, UNC has been against VT all along
VTCALS72 • 07/26/26 07:01 PM ET
UNC does not have power outside the ACC. They will not control voting by
JM397 • 07/28/26 04:11 PM ET
UMCP+UVa to the B10 and A&M+VT to the SEC could have worked very well.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 05:26 AM ET
You may not be wrong about the ACC losing 4 schools, but I will say this-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 01:19 PM ET
I think there is a very good chance some football brands stay or rather
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 05:58 PM ET
Would be interesting if ACC holds together if just one brand is left
HouClone • 07/27/26 01:57 PM ET
That would be extremely interesting to see play out.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 02:33 PM ET
In that scenario, one must not
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 02:44 PM ET
Interesting take. I think the "domino" is any football brand leaving.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 03:01 PM ET
I like our chances if expansion happens jmo**
Hokie83 • 07/25/26 08:24 AM ET
Me too, for one listen to the ESPN broadcasters talk about Virginia Tech,
Stech • 07/26/26 06:56 AM ET
“I don’t like VT’s chances, but we do have a chance.” you’re consistent but
Stech • 07/24/26 04:08 PM ET
Certainly not arguing, but mind saying why? My concern is that if there
TDVick • 07/26/26 04:40 AM ET
agree
VTCALS72 • 07/26/26 07:05 PM ET
Prior to these recent changes we had zero chance. Now I think
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/24/26 06:38 PM ET
We had a chance before but agree we have increased our odds:)**
Hokie83 • 07/25/26 08:50 AM ET
Bingo!**
Stech • 07/26/26 06:49 AM ET
I always thought Virginia Tech would get in the P2, always.**
Stech • 07/24/26 10:18 PM ET
Do you have reason why that you can explain? I'm eager to hear a good
TDVick • 07/26/26 04:44 AM ET
I think it is the past viewership and fan support along with the size of
JM397 • 07/27/26 12:46 PM ET
I'm just trying to be realistic. I don't often see VT's name mentioned
RandomAsianGuy • 07/24/26 06:32 PM ET
What reputable reporters have said anything about other schools recently?🔗
Stech • 07/24/26 10:10 PM ET
Why don't you google search yourself?
RandomAsianGuy • 07/25/26 02:15 PM ET
A little dated, don’t you think?**
NC Hoke • 07/27/26 04:14 PM ET
Do you have recent report (by reputable reporter) VT is being considered?
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 05:31 PM ET
Haven’t looked for one.
NC Hoke • 07/27/26 05:47 PM ET
Of course. Any reason VT rose and UVa went down during the last 3 years?**
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 05:56 PM ET
My opinion is that VT has improved it’s relative standing among tier 2
NC Hoke • 07/27/26 06:41 PM ET
VT needs to show the result first. Our last three year result is awful.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 06:58 PM ET
Frankly, it’s not very convincing.
NC Hoke • 07/28/26 12:40 AM ET
There was sentiment about improving basketball, now the SEC has done it w/o
Stech • 07/26/26 06:32 AM ET
I understand things can change. As I said, VT can improve its chance.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 06:49 AM ET
I don't think anyone knows with any certainty who will get invited
Hokie83 • 07/26/26 08:27 AM ET
Since 🏈 is the economic engine, why does UNC get a pass on that? UCONN 🏀
Stech • 07/26/26 09:51 AM ET
I think the answer is that 90% of the population of NC are UNC fans-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 02:53 PM ET
I have a feeling that it is
Big12 guy • 07/26/26 11:15 AM ET
Agree**
Hokie83 • 07/27/26 06:43 AM ET
I am not discrediting your overall point but I do want to point out in the
HboroughHokie • 07/25/26 03:51 PM ET
I agree. We should still use the logics and consider the business rationale
RandomAsianGuy • 07/25/26 07:00 PM ET
I buy Unc but do not buy Uva
Hokie83 • 07/25/26 03:06 PM ET
Let me ask you this. If UNC has a say in picking its travel partner, which
RandomAsianGuy • 07/25/26 06:58 PM ET
I'm not sure why the assumption is UNC would pick a partner to leave with.**
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 03:03 PM ET
It wont be up to UNC to choose IMO. And the State of NC will not let them
HboroughHokie • 07/25/26 09:01 PM ET
History demonstrates that a state legislature has never been able to stop-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 03:13 PM ET
Oklahoma State has entered the chat. **
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 03:43 PM ET
Did I miss where the OK legislature stopped OU from leaving the Big 12?
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 04:26 PM ET
The OK legislator tried, but was
Big12 guy • 07/27/26 05:24 PM ET
UNC has run things in their conference for so long, of course they think
VTCALS72 • 07/27/26 08:45 AM ET
It's either UNC+NCSU or UNC+UVa. That's why I said UVa is ahead of VT as of
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 05:18 AM ET
I agree with you, except that the political component is to block UVa going
TDVick • 07/26/26 05:34 AM ET
My opinion has always been based in military strategy
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/26/26 10:22 AM ET
Who are the six (6) in your opinion or from your sources?
HouClone • 07/23/26 02:01 PM ET
Virginia has millions more people than South Carolina, income much higher
Stech • 07/24/26 05:45 PM ET
South Carolina football 2025
Big12 guy • 07/24/26 09:06 PM ET
And San Jose State averaged close to 4 million in their linear TV games
hokie_jayhawk • 07/25/26 08:26 PM ET
90% true. The other 10% is their competitiveness. **
Big12 guy • 07/26/26 09:16 AM ET
That’s better than I thought.**
Stech • 07/24/26 10:04 PM ET
USC had games against VT 5.4m viewers, vs Tx A&M 4.2m, vs Bama 7.8m
HokieAl • 07/28/26 10:29 PM ET
That explains it thanks. Immediately playing SEC games VT’s numbers go up
Stech • 07/29/26 01:16 AM ET
It is a lot like........
2hhoop3 • 07/28/26 10:41 PM ET
Me too! **
Big12 guy • 07/24/26 10:20 PM ET
No UVA???**
VT4FR • 07/24/26 06:19 AM ET
Word was B1G Presidents didn't think FSU wouldnt be a good partner
Sunsetunderground • 07/23/26 03:57 PM ET
Carolina cannot leave State behind? right?**
MrFantastic! • 07/23/26 02:07 PM ET
Correct, unless both find new homes at the same time in different
ancient alien 2018 • 07/23/26 09:37 PM ET
Can VT leave UVA behind?**
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/23/26 02:16 PM ET
Neither will leave the other behind, preferred in same Conference, but both
Stech • 07/24/26 12:27 PM ET
I would ask if UVa can leave VT behind...**
RandomAsianGuy • 07/23/26 07:25 PM ET
and also. If UVa goes B10 to "help" VT, does the SEC prefer VT over Duke?
TDVick • 07/26/26 05:15 AM ET
Why do you say that? Football TV ratings or the podcasters? I think both
Stech • 07/24/26 05:52 PM ET
I don't like UVa but in my opinion:
RandomAsianGuy • 07/24/26 06:58 PM ET
Do you think expansion is about football TV ratings first?**
Stech • 07/24/26 10:14 PM ET
Do you think VT‘s football rating is higher than the average SEC/B10 team?**
RandomAsianGuy • 07/25/26 02:06 PM ET
The correct way to ask this question would be:
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 03:28 PM ET
I heard that argument many times.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/27/26 05:55 PM ET
Answer my question first please.**
Stech • 07/26/26 06:20 AM ET
Sure football ratings matter. But VT is not a football juggernut the SEC
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 06:29 AM ET
You didn’t answer my ?, I said football do football ratings matter most?**
Stech • 07/26/26 06:37 AM ET
Didn't you read my answer? I did say the football ratings matter. **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 06:38 AM ET
You didn’t answer it again, I asked “most”. What matters most?
Stech • 07/26/26 06:48 AM ET
You didn't ask that. Your question was
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 06:54 AM ET
Come on you’re splitting hairs to deflect, first and most mean the same and
Stech • 07/26/26 07:01 AM ET
Football rating usually matters most because it's directly related to media
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 07:12 AM ET
We agree it matters most, Rutgers was forecasting NYC area, because other
Stech • 07/26/26 07:23 AM ET
You better go back and......
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 10:08 AM ET
I said it was the NYC area market. That said, there was a lot of chatter
Stech • 07/26/26 10:29 AM ET
There was chatter.....
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 10:45 AM ET
Almost every team tries to bring another school, but UMd didn’t have much
Stech • 07/26/26 12:20 PM ET
Technically speaking, money matters most. But football rating is usually
RandomAsianGuy • 07/26/26 07:30 AM ET
Yes we have to get back to being what we once were for 20-30 years, but
Stech • 07/26/26 08:04 AM ET
Where does your......
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 09:53 AM ET
I agree it’s not what it used to be, but enthusiasm from broadcasters on
Stech • 07/26/26 10:22 AM ET
I agree the....
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 10:51 AM ET
Some important ones IMHO, I think 3 straight 🏈NC’s by the B10 has changed
Stech • 07/26/26 12:17 PM ET
None of our.....
2hhoop3 • 07/26/26 12:34 PM ET
Yep lots of propaganda out there,**
Stech • 07/26/26 06:18 PM ET
No. Tech and UVa are joined. There has to be a home for each or no deal.**
CobbCountyHokie • 07/23/26 02:33 PM ET
Would Uva
MrFantastic! • 07/24/26 06:52 AM ET
Something tells me UVA is not interested in the SEC at all.
Sunsetunderground • 07/24/26 12:06 PM ET
How and by whom? What a terrible notion.
Pylons • 07/23/26 07:11 PM ET
-354**
ancient alien 2018 • 07/23/26 09:43 PM ET
Yep, it's about that dumb to try to tie them**
Pylons • 07/24/26 12:51 PM ET
Yeah, I've been meaning to do that for a while!**
Pylons • 07/23/26 11:39 PM ET
I would hate to be the politician that required a school to reject
wwhokie1 • 07/23/26 06:59 PM ET
Oregon and Washington both went through this exercise recently.
LonghornHokie • 07/25/26 05:41 PM ET
Agreed. Linking the two is completely non-sensical.**
Pylons • 07/23/26 07:07 PM ET
Revised six with Virginia into P2
HouClone • 07/23/26 04:00 PM ET
Kansas .....
2hhoop3 • 07/24/26 04:21 PM ET
Damn, agree 110%**
Big12 guy • 07/24/26 09:12 PM ET
So VT was required to invest in football but UVA wasn't? Seems odd**
Sunsetunderground • 07/23/26 03:47 PM ET
UVa has plenty of investment in athletics. We need to catch up.**
CobbCountyHokie • 07/23/26 04:25 PM ET
Does UVA have the viewership and fan support to justify moving to the P2? ◄
JM397 • 07/24/26 04:38 PM ET
They don't. UVA will be the problem when it comes to a P2 move, not VT.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/27/26 01:02 PM ET
I agree. Makes no logical sense to me when people talk about adding UVA.**
JM397 • 07/28/26 05:58 AM ET
Am thinking VT and NCSU to SEC. UVA and UNC to the Big10**
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/23/26 03:40 PM ET
NCSU has a remarkable history of futility in football.
LonghornHokie • 07/25/26 05:43 PM ET
that'd make our hoo rivalry game interconference and conf reputation risk!
HtownHokie • 07/23/26 04:54 PM ET
Makes too much sense. It’ll Never happen!**
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/23/26 05:59 PM ET
It would be interesting to know if your source still believes that to be
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 10:01 AM ET
I dont doubt that 20 is the number that maxes revs for b1g and sec schools
Vippie1 • 07/22/26 05:31 PM ET
I really doubt the SEC would grow more than 20.**
RandomAsianGuy • 07/23/26 07:26 PM ET
48 IMHO. for the P2 would be the best number.
Stech • 07/23/26 11:58 AM ET
20 would allow you to do 2 ten team divisions
hokieninsurance • 07/23/26 12:32 AM ET
If they expand Conf Champ game is likely gone, so divisions aren't needed.
Stech • 07/23/26 11:53 AM ET
4 divisions could open the door to expand the CCG into a mini-playoff with
VTHokie2000 • 07/23/26 01:27 PM ET
Four divisions with five teams each. Play four division games, and five
wwhokie1 • 07/23/26 09:57 PM ET
Could be right, it seems like the trend is 3-4 rivals and rotating others
Stech • 07/23/26 09:05 PM ET
It would open the door for more money and maybe bring back excitement to
VTHokie2000 • 07/25/26 12:00 PM ET
I don't see that happening...
The_VT_Rock • 07/23/26 09:39 AM ET
geographic scheduling pods is
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 10:39 AM ET
SEC can be done easy with 4 PODS of 5
MrFantastic! • 07/23/26 12:57 PM ET
I agree with what you are saying, but remove the word Pods, just call it
Stech • 07/23/26 12:06 PM ET
I'm OK with that, they could call it
Big12 guy • 07/23/26 12:13 PM ET
I would assume
MrFantastic! • 07/23/26 09:06 AM ET
My bet is that they told VT what they had
Big12 guy • 07/22/26 04:44 PM ET