Unfortunately, one cannot win an argument vs. a fence post.
That's my last response to you here. Feel free to keep posting all afternoon and night; knock yourself out.
Thread Replies (74)
The ACC revenue will exceed $900 million for the 2025-2026 season.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 16, 2026 at 08:57 AM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/16/26 08:57 AM ET
Your post gives me the impression that you don't believe the Big XII's
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 16, 2026 at 12:51 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/16/26 12:51 PM ET
I don't know if the B12 has the look-in provision.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 17, 2026 at 12:01 AM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/17/26 12:01 AM ET
Since they will have a new media contract in 2031, then I'm not following
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:04 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/17/26 10:04 AM ET
That's a certainly possibility. I didn't rule it out.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 18, 2026 at 12:12 AM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/18/26 12:12 AM ET
The fact that you call it a "miraculous mega deal" gives the impression you
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 20, 2026 at 01:06 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/20/26 01:06 PM ET
It's a very long shot in my opinion.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 21, 2026 at 12:18 AM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/21/26 12:18 AM ET
But the new media deal won't be uncertain because that would one of the
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 21, 2026 at 08:30 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/21/26 08:30 AM ET
Maybe. But deals are not always easily finalized and there are many moving
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 21, 2026 at 12:00 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/21/26 12:00 PM ET
I didn't say they would be finalized though. What I am saying is that the
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 21, 2026 at 12:17 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/21/26 12:17 PM ET
Yes and what I am saying is that unless the deal is finalized, there is
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 21, 2026 at 09:01 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/21/26 09:01 PM ET
I understand, but I am not sure you can use the past to predict the future.
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 22, 2026 at 09:50 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/22/26 09:50 AM ET
I think I understand your point. But I stand by my position.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 22, 2026 at 06:25 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/22/26 06:25 PM ET
If the ACC schools aren't going to sign a new GOR for the ACC's next
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 08:52 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 08:52 AM ET
We can discuss all the possibilities no matter how unlikely they are.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 23, 2026 at 07:09 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/23/26 07:09 PM ET
I don't see any conference signing contracts
-- Big12 guy
Jul 23, 2026 at 12:23 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/23/26 12:23 PM ET
FWIW the AAC's current contract is for 11 years (ends in 2031). While the
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 03:24 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 03:24 PM ET
The new contract includes the 4 corners, the
-- Big12 guy
Jul 22, 2026 at 10:22 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/22/26 10:22 AM ET
The 4 corners will increase the value of the next contract. Those schools
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 22, 2026 at 11:44 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/22/26 11:44 AM ET
The B12 will not leap frog the ACC with the
-- Big12 guy
Jul 22, 2026 at 11:59 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/22/26 11:59 AM ET
I agree with you. It is unclear to me if all the ACC schools are willing
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 22, 2026 at 12:09 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/22/26 12:09 PM ET
"If they have the invite" **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 22, 2026 at 12:13 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/22/26 12:13 PM ET
Who says they can't form a new conference? **
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 22, 2026 at 12:18 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/22/26 12:18 PM ET
Money, and it doesn't get them into the P2 which is the goal. **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 22, 2026 at 12:20 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/22/26 12:20 PM ET
Depending on what happens in Congress, P2 may no longer be their goal
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 22, 2026 at 12:28 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/22/26 12:28 PM ET
This. If those schools were on the table, I could see the distributions
-- Big12 guy
Jul 21, 2026 at 12:27 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/21/26 12:27 PM ET
Correct. The Big XII wouldn't be able to catch the Big Ten or SEC, but it
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 21, 2026 at 03:16 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/21/26 03:16 PM ET
Even I agree with that. $75M is way too
-- Big12 guy
Jul 21, 2026 at 06:36 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/21/26 06:36 AM ET
I think the other way around is more likely. And that is my "prediction"**
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 21, 2026 at 12:02 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/21/26 12:02 PM ET
To each his own. Just for the record, the only
-- Big12 guy
Jul 21, 2026 at 12:05 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/21/26 12:05 PM ET
I hear your point. The unequal revenue sharing addresses that issue to some
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 21, 2026 at 12:11 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/21/26 12:11 PM ET
I'm watching that VERY closely. It could be the future of not
-- Big12 guy
Jul 21, 2026 at 12:20 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/21/26 12:20 PM ET
I think the B10 will switch. The B12 will probably have a discussion. **
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 21, 2026 at 09:02 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/21/26 09:02 PM ET
There are discussion on renegotiating the
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2026 at 01:30 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/26 01:30 PM ET
I do think it would be a long shot if the Big XII were to land all 3 of
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 16, 2026 at 04:38 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/16/26 04:38 PM ET
The only way I see that happening is
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2026 at 05:20 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/26 05:20 PM ET
The ACC might be "locked in," but its programs aren't, at least long term.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:30 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/17/26 10:30 AM ET
If the football schools are not going to sign another GOR, then it is very
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 17, 2026 at 12:24 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/17/26 12:24 PM ET
Agree with you 100%**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 17, 2026 at 01:28 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/17/26 01:28 PM ET
On schools leaving the ACC for the P2, it
-- Big12 guy
Jul 17, 2026 at 12:44 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/17/26 12:44 PM ET
I agree, but Congress may have a say on whether the P2 can even expand or
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 17, 2026 at 01:38 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/17/26 01:38 PM ET
Money is important to the "football schools" in the ACC. However, I would
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 16, 2026 at 05:54 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/16/26 05:54 PM ET
The Academics in the ACC is outstanding. I don't think you
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2026 at 06:48 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/26 06:48 PM ET
The academics in the ACC is outstanding. How much interaction does a
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 17, 2026 at 09:49 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/17/26 09:49 AM ET
One has to consider how the president looks
-- Big12 guy
Jul 17, 2026 at 09:54 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/17/26 09:54 AM ET
I agree that college presidents place importance on being in an academia
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 17, 2026 at 12:15 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/17/26 12:15 PM ET
I agree with all of that. my point is that there are
-- Big12 guy
Jul 17, 2026 at 12:27 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/17/26 12:27 PM ET
For the university presidents that don't see investing into athletics as
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 17, 2026 at 12:36 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/17/26 12:36 PM ET
Which schools are you referring? **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 17, 2026 at 12:41 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/17/26 12:41 PM ET
You made the statement "my point is that there are..." so I am going to
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 17, 2026 at 01:35 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/17/26 01:35 PM ET
Carol Christ, former Chancellor at Cal Brky openly objected to the large
-- 33laszlo99
Jul 21, 2026 at 08:34 AM ET
33laszlo99
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07/21/26 08:34 AM ET
I know there are schools or leadership at schools that believe that
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 21, 2026 at 08:55 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/21/26 08:55 AM ET
Not trying to flame here, but - who cares? The Big 12 ain't the competition
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2026 at 09:57 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/16/26 09:57 AM ET
I think we agree that the ACC will not beat the SEC/B10 in terms of money
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 17, 2026 at 12:20 AM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/17/26 12:20 AM ET
Let's stipulate that 2-3 big brands leave the ACC in 2029 or 2030-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:03 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/17/26 10:03 AM ET
If the P2 skim off the top of the ACC, the money gap between the ACC and
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 17, 2026 at 03:24 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/17/26 03:24 AM ET
Remember the ACC contract is through 2036. That's the whole point.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 18, 2026 at 12:19 AM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/18/26 12:19 AM ET
Bingo. Great post.**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:04 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/17/26 10:04 AM ET
Is anyone on here saying that anyone would take a pay cut to go to the XII?
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2026 at 10:33 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/16/26 10:33 AM ET
I've never once said that, but OK, whatever.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2026 at 10:47 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/16/26 10:47 AM ET
I have a brain and don't think it's inevitable that schools will be leaving
-- wwhokie1
Jul 17, 2026 at 08:20 PM ET
wwhokie1
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07/17/26 08:20 PM ET
"...they may take a look at the finances..."??? I'm pretty sure they have
-- 33laszlo99
Jul 21, 2026 at 07:42 PM ET
33laszlo99
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07/21/26 07:42 PM ET
People have plenty of evidence......
-- 2hhoop3
Jul 16, 2026 at 10:52 AM ET
2hhoop3
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07/16/26 10:52 AM ET
Thanks for the kind words. For the record, I don't think you or anyone here
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2026 at 12:05 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/16/26 12:05 PM ET
"I said you said it but I left out all context & 99% of what you said!"
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2026 at 12:40 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/16/26 12:40 PM ET
Unfortunately, one cannot win an argument vs. a fence post.
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-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2026 at 12:58 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/16/26 12:58 PM ET
The B12 has top tier schools? There
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2026 at 09:07 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/26 09:07 AM ET
Sometime in the next decade there will be a "best of the rest" conference
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 17, 2026 at 03:31 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/17/26 03:31 AM ET
I agree, and think it will be a new conference, primarily because there's-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 17, 2026 at 10:23 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/17/26 10:23 AM ET
I am 99% sure VT will make money than the B12 schools. But we will see. **
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jul 17, 2026 at 12:05 AM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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07/17/26 12:05 AM ET
Could be. I will find it very interesting
-- Big12 guy
Jul 17, 2026 at 07:32 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/17/26 07:32 AM ET