What if, .....
The schools went independent in football only, and assuming the B12 has a separate football contract, they joining the B12 or the Big east for basketball. Maybe form a different basketball only conference - and separate football once and for all.
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The current proposal in the
-- Big12 guy
Jul 22, 2026 at 11:50 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/22/26 11:50 AM ET
Would be a rough 5 years. No network, 75 million ACC buyout. Some of the
-- wwhokie1
Jul 22, 2026 at 03:41 PM ET
wwhokie1
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07/22/26 03:41 PM ET
We needn't argue about specific provisions, restrictions, or rules.
-- 33laszlo99
Jul 22, 2026 at 07:10 PM ET
33laszlo99
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07/22/26 07:10 PM ET
Even if the bill is passed, there will be loopholes that the various groups
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 09:00 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 09:00 AM ET
The original intent of this bill was to force the P2 to pool their media
-- 33laszlo99
Jul 23, 2026 at 11:16 AM ET
33laszlo99
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07/23/26 11:16 AM ET
That may have been the original intent or a potential intent because it was
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 11:30 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 11:30 AM ET
Nevermind what the latest version says. The danger of this law is that our
-- 33laszlo99
Jul 23, 2026 at 11:52 AM ET
33laszlo99
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07/23/26 11:52 AM ET
I realize the language in the bill will change multiple times, so it is
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 12:03 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 12:03 PM ET
You missed the point. It doesn't matter what is in the law on the day it
-- 33laszlo99
Jul 23, 2026 at 12:20 PM ET
33laszlo99
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07/23/26 12:20 PM ET
Maybe it will and maybe it won't because there are still plenty of moving
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 12:39 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 12:39 PM ET
Of course bc nothing to gain or lose either way, right?**
-- 33laszlo99
Jul 23, 2026 at 12:46 PM ET
33laszlo99
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07/23/26 12:46 PM ET
No, it depends on what bill is passed and how the schools interpret it
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 12:56 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 12:56 PM ET
This requirement in the proposed bill is why I suggested forming a new
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 22, 2026 at 02:17 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/22/26 02:17 PM ET
I'm not convinced a new conference of the MAG 7 + would be
-- Big12 guy
Jul 22, 2026 at 02:49 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/22/26 02:49 PM ET
I never said it would be as good as SEC or Big Ten money though. What I am
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 22, 2026 at 04:25 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/22/26 04:25 PM ET
They could do the same thing that UConn did. Big East is a more likely
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 22, 2026 at 04:41 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/22/26 04:41 PM ET
Work arounds like this provide access to the tournament
-- Big12 guy
Jul 22, 2026 at 04:52 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/22/26 04:52 PM ET
Yes, but if a conference sponsors a sport, then it is very unlikely that
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 22, 2026 at 05:06 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/22/26 05:06 PM ET
Hawaii is now a full member.**
-- 33laszlo99
Jul 23, 2026 at 11:33 AM ET
33laszlo99
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07/23/26 11:33 AM ET
They decided to leave the Big West for all non-football sports and re-join
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 11:36 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 11:36 AM ET
Yes, some of the ACC schools are basketball-first schools. Those schools
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 09:35 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 09:35 AM ET
Maybe Yormark is on to something
-- Big12 guy
Jul 23, 2026 at 10:46 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/23/26 10:46 AM ET
The Big East has three FB schools. None is independent.
-- 33laszlo99
Jul 23, 2026 at 12:53 PM ET
33laszlo99
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07/23/26 12:53 PM ET
Butler is a non-football member of the Big East and a football member of
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 02:55 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 02:55 PM ET
It is very possible. Although I do wonder which contract (football or
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 10:55 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 10:55 AM ET
The basketball contract. The Big East does just
-- Big12 guy
Jul 23, 2026 at 11:10 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/23/26 11:10 AM ET
The Big East doesn't sponsor football though. That could be a huge
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 11:17 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 11:17 AM ET
The idea is to separate football once and for all. **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 23, 2026 at 11:22 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/23/26 11:22 AM ET
I understand. I am just saying you can't use the Big East as an example of
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 11:35 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 11:35 AM ET
ESPN, as an example, could maintain
-- Big12 guy
Jul 23, 2026 at 11:45 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/23/26 11:45 AM ET
Except football isn't truly independent from a governing standpoint because
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 11:53 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 11:53 AM ET
The NCAA rules only state that there
-- Big12 guy
Jul 23, 2026 at 11:56 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/23/26 11:56 AM ET
Actually that is not accurate because the Pioneer Football League, Missouri
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 12:34 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 12:34 PM ET
It's how I understood it, and why
-- Big12 guy
Jul 23, 2026 at 12:38 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/23/26 12:38 PM ET
FWIW the Big East Football Conference was a football-only conference
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 23, 2026 at 12:47 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/23/26 12:47 PM ET
Doesn't this only apply to movement amongst P4 schools ? Not G5 **
-- Sunsetunderground
Jul 22, 2026 at 12:44 PM ET
Sunsetunderground
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07/22/26 12:44 PM ET
I don't know, but the G5 schools do not like the provision. **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 22, 2026 at 03:02 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/22/26 03:02 PM ET
It is insurmountable. That is the point.**
-- VT ChemE 1986
Jul 22, 2026 at 12:25 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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07/22/26 12:25 PM ET