Login | Sign Up
TechSideline

All Hokie, All the Time. Period. Presented by First Bank & Trust Company

Conference Realignment Board

Conference realignment news and discussion

Log in to post a message
Deleted and posted under Padros post, accidentally put response here
Stech • 02/20/26 09:25 AM ET
Just finished reading The Club,about the business of the Premier League
PadrosWindup • 02/20/26 08:33 AM ET
A must read for anyone that wants to understand conference realignment. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 02/23/26 11:36 AM ET
Just think what we could get rid of if we went an EPL/EFL model
Maroon Baboon • 02/20/26 05:45 PM ET
Reducing to 20 teams leaves out VT
PadrosWindup • 02/20/26 09:02 PM ET
Where are you getting the 20 number for the P2? Saban says 32, same as NFL.
Stech • 02/21/26 08:06 AM ET
I went with 20 since that is the EPL number. Maroon Baboons scheduling
PadrosWindup • 02/21/26 11:30 AM ET
I think if there is a P1, it should be 48, but Saban saying it repeatedly
Stech • 02/21/26 02:22 PM ET
To show you the folly of making a permanent 32 (or 48),
Maroon Baboon • 02/21/26 02:55 PM ET
I don’t want the P1, but if they do relegation and promotion it would help,
Stech • 02/22/26 08:36 AM ET
What two conferences might look like in a "P1" relegation-promotion model.
Maroon Baboon • 02/23/26 12:34 PM ET
If there is ever a mythical P1, it
Big12 guy • 02/23/26 02:23 PM ET
Trust me, I would be more than willing to run it back.
Maroon Baboon • 02/23/26 02:45 PM ET
Uneven scheduling isn't a complaint. It's a fact.
Maroon Baboon • 02/21/26 12:57 PM ET
I would lobby for a 24 team playoff with
Big12 guy • 02/21/26 09:35 AM ET
Two major omissions in your post.
Maroon Baboon • 02/20/26 11:19 PM ET
Relegation is an anachronism. No new leagues will sign on to it.
PadrosWindup • 02/21/26 10:37 AM ET
“Supposedly this Greg Sankey's #1 book.” Why people should read your post
Stech • 02/20/26 11:15 AM ET
Flag football as a billion dollar enterprise?
mancunian • 02/19/26 09:29 AM ET
Billion dollar valuations aren't what they used to be
mrcaniac • 02/19/26 11:54 PM ET
Flag football is more boring than a 7-on-7. **
Maroon Baboon • 02/19/26 10:25 AM ET
FBS scheduling ridiculously unequal yes, but now w/i same Conf like B10🔗 **
Stech • 02/18/26 11:25 AM ET
If conferences truly wanted their members to play the same schedule in a
VTHokie2000 • 02/18/26 05:25 PM ET
They aren’t Conferences anymore, they are TV Alliances for money, if a P1
Stech • 02/18/26 11:49 PM ET
Yup. They aren't conferences. They're buying groups. **
VT ChemE 1986 • 02/20/26 01:57 PM ET
Pretty much, they might as well be stocks since ratings translate to
Stech • 02/20/26 02:06 PM ET
I agree they aren't really "conferences" anymore even if "conference" is in
VTHokie2000 • 02/19/26 01:29 PM ET
Guys, to function as a "pro" league, there
Big12 guy • 02/19/26 02:10 PM ET
You said basically the same thing they said before the NFL & AFL merged.
Stech • 02/19/26 05:45 PM ET
There might be a break away of the P4, and it very well be fewer
Big12 guy • 02/19/26 05:57 PM ET
Because there is even MORE money to be made for the schools involved if
VTHokie2000 • 02/19/26 06:35 PM ET
Your first line says it all, less schools MORE MONEY!!!
Stech • 02/20/26 09:09 AM ET
Good point about golf. However, I don't think everyone gets the golf
VTHokie2000 • 02/20/26 11:13 AM ET
You are right about Conference Networks covering golf, the Golf Channel is
Stech • 02/20/26 11:35 AM ET
You are right about golf being a relationship builder. I never really got
VTHokie2000 • 02/20/26 11:54 AM ET
Yeah it’s slim pickings for watching Tech Golf right now, but Sharpie is
Stech • 02/20/26 12:27 PM ET
Probably take a few more .....
2hhoop3 • 02/20/26 12:45 PM ET
Yeah, often times in a good cop bad cop situation, the good cop takes over
Stech • 02/20/26 01:59 PM ET
My comment had nothing........
2hhoop3 • 02/20/26 02:13 PM ET
We agree to disagree, I have decades of experience on the subject matter.
Stech • 02/20/26 02:25 PM ET
And you ......
2hhoop3 • 02/20/26 02:30 PM ET
LOL you have no idea who I am and it shows. I can guarantee you Will who
Stech • 02/20/26 02:45 PM ET
What I know is......
2hhoop3 • 02/20/26 02:52 PM ET
Not true, you do exactly what you are accusing me of, let me prove it.
Stech • 02/20/26 02:58 PM ET
Already gave you .....
2hhoop3 • 02/20/26 03:07 PM ET
So your argument is they are adding more collegiate events to fill space?
Stech • 02/20/26 03:19 PM ET
You got the argument right?.....
2hhoop3 • 02/20/26 03:24 PM ET
I just added my answer to the prior post, but here it is again.
Stech • 02/20/26 03:26 PM ET
What else are ......
2hhoop3 • 02/20/26 03:31 PM ET
It’s been increasing for a decade, they would put other things on if it
Stech • 02/20/26 03:46 PM ET
Like I said.....
2hhoop3 • 02/20/26 03:54 PM ET
We mostly agree, if not entirely, I will agree it’s not a large number
Stech • 02/20/26 04:11 PM ET
We completely agree....
2hhoop3 • 02/20/26 04:52 PM ET
💯% **
Stech • 02/20/26 04:58 PM ET
I guess this is where.....
2hhoop3 • 02/20/26 05:19 PM ET
Haha, save me a bite, I earned some 🐦‍⬛ too. 🤣
Stech • 02/20/26 05:25 PM ET
If football breaks away to form it's own entity, it's certainly
Big12 guy • 02/19/26 06:45 PM ET
It may not be just in football though because of Title IX. I'm not sure
VTHokie2000 • 02/19/26 09:26 PM ET
OK. That post of yours is
Big12 guy • 02/19/26 09:55 PM ET
FWIW I am younger than you (born in '77). However, I probably did have a
VTHokie2000 • 02/20/26 11:02 AM ET
The networks are where the money comes from, you have it backwards, but you
Stech • 02/19/26 06:23 PM ET
A truth and an opinion are certainly
Big12 guy • 02/19/26 06:30 PM ET
PLEASE READ MY POST, I have NOT predicted a P1, you keep posting like I did
Stech • 02/19/26 06:44 PM ET
I was referring to the truth, and an opinion. I
Big12 guy • 02/19/26 06:51 PM ET
If your truth is I predicted a P1, then your truth is false. **
Stech • 02/19/26 06:56 PM ET
The MAC is getting $18M from Sacramento State to
Big12 guy • 02/15/26 02:36 PM ET
Sac State has a very good coach, but he'll be moving on to better ops **
Baltimore Hokie • 02/21/26 05:22 PM ET
Any school in the MAC that gets a good couch moves
Big12 guy • 02/22/26 10:45 AM ET
True **
VaTechHokiesACC • 02/25/26 05:59 AM ET
I don’t follow G6 closely, where would the MAC schools be going to? **
Stech • 02/16/26 10:51 AM ET
There are now rumors of the MAC
Big12 guy • 02/16/26 08:40 PM ET
Unless something has changed recently, I believe UMass is now a full member
VTHokie2000 • 02/17/26 09:13 AM ET
Isn't NDakSt actually joining the MWC...
Gobbler-100 • 02/17/26 11:34 PM ET
Yes, you are correct. I misspoke because I saw a report indicating that
VTHokie2000 • 02/18/26 05:12 PM ET
The way i understand it, their bylaws would
Big12 guy • 02/17/26 09:28 AM ET
Nobody watches the MAC now. Why would anyone watch it just because they-
Baltimore_Hokie • 02/17/26 09:49 AM ET
Toledo football got 2.5M viewers last
Big12 guy • 02/17/26 11:02 AM ET
Lucky or smart? I ask because VT played WVU on a Wed night once. VT was
VTHokie2000 • 02/17/26 12:24 PM ET
FWIW I think the MAC (and Sun Belt) get pretty good ratings whenever they
VTHokie2000 • 02/17/26 10:03 AM ET
Sure, I do get that people will watch MAC games in unique time slots when-
Baltimore_Hokie • 02/17/26 11:20 AM ET
For schools like Sacramento State, North Dakota State, JMU, Delaware, etc.
VTHokie2000 • 02/17/26 12:13 PM ET
The current MAC media deal rests in 2027. if the
Big12 guy • 02/17/26 11:35 AM ET
I don't disagree the MAC may have needed to modify its bylaws to make it
VTHokie2000 • 02/17/26 09:39 AM ET
UMass stands out, but reports say the decision was unanimous. **
Big12 guy • 02/17/26 09:42 AM ET
I don't doubt the decision was unanimous. Also, I am not assuming the
VTHokie2000 • 02/17/26 10:01 AM ET
Other than Ice Hockey, don't think the P2 is interested in partials. **
EDGEMAN • 02/17/26 08:10 AM ET
Men's lacrosse (think Johns Hopkins) is another sport that comes to mind.
VTHokie2000 • 02/17/26 09:21 AM ET
Soccer, wrestling, gymnastics, swimming, and
Big12 guy • 02/17/26 09:41 AM ET
I don't think so either, but following the MAC, I was
Big12 guy • 02/17/26 09:10 AM ET
Toledo has an offer to go to the Mountain West, Ohio was rumored to be in
Big12 guy • 02/16/26 02:50 PM ET
I'm not surprised to hear that because Sacramento State has wanted to make
VTHokie2000 • 02/15/26 04:36 PM ET
The price of admission is being set. I wonder what the B12
Big12 guy • 02/15/26 05:18 PM ET
Given that UConn doesn't have a "FedEx Connection," my guess is the Big XII
VTHokie2000 • 02/15/26 06:38 PM ET
I agree with your assessment on UConn. The
Big12 guy • 02/15/26 07:03 PM ET
Already happened similarly n P4, Rutgers, UMD, Oregon, UW, SMU, Calford etc
Stech • 02/16/26 08:39 AM ET
Jim Williams: ACC Venture Capital Play
RandomAsianGuy • 02/15/26 12:58 PM ET
The real question is this.
RandomAsianGuy • 02/16/26 01:02 PM ET
Your first paragraph said it all.....
2hhoop3 • 02/16/26 01:27 PM ET
JW is doubling down on VC idea.
RandomAsianGuy • 02/17/26 06:49 PM ET
Williams raises some valid points.....
2hhoop3 • 02/17/26 08:16 PM ET
True that. Ignoring the USF/AAC angle, he had a point. **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/17/26 08:40 PM ET
I agree with everything you wrote except for the joke part. Utah
Big12 guy • 02/16/26 02:43 PM ET
I am not saying it is.........
2hhoop3 • 02/16/26 03:06 PM ET
We need to secure a spot in a better conference!
EDGEMAN • 02/16/26 11:16 AM ET
Oh I agree. **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/16/26 01:00 PM ET
I hope to God VT isn't in the version of the ACC he thinks will emerge.
Baltimore_Hokie • 02/16/26 10:38 AM ET
Hey I don’t disagree. **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/16/26 01:01 PM ET
The conference he proposes is truly sucky.
Hokester • 02/16/26 08:42 AM ET
"When you wish upon a star" This guy is hallucinating!! **
ancient alien 2018 • 02/15/26 10:18 PM ET
LOL, that is pure fantasy
HokieAl • 02/15/26 04:28 PM ET
ND would be out so quick if that happens. Our strength of schedule would
goldendomer • 02/15/26 02:00 PM ET
A released document of what the Big 10 showed
Big12 guy • 02/13/26 01:19 PM ET
I'd favor going to 24 if they included every conference champion. **
Maroon Baboon • 02/14/26 02:58 PM ET
No reason to expand beyond 16 teams if every conference doesn't get a seat
VTHokie2000 • 02/15/26 04:44 PM ET
24 is way too many. **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/14/26 12:16 PM ET
With the consolidations of the conferences, it's the
Big12 guy • 02/14/26 02:29 PM ET
16 is before 24, why not just start there. Auto bids before season starts
Stech • 02/14/26 08:40 AM ET
It’s extremely similar to what I posted back in the fall
HokieAl • 02/13/26 10:02 PM ET
Unless this is sarcasm, whoever posted the tweet and said
RVAHokie05 • 02/13/26 02:56 PM ET
I think the P2 have to present the "illusion of inclusion"...
MP4VT2004 • 02/14/26 09:39 AM ET
I think Sankey/ESPN wants the P1 and Petitti/Fox doesn’t. Fox does wants to
Stech • 02/14/26 12:05 PM ET
I do think the B1G doesn’t want the P1, with this proposal, Sankey wants it
Stech • 02/14/26 09:02 AM ET
IMO this will trigger more conference expansion **
goldendomer • 02/13/26 02:48 PM ET
Why do you believe that? **
Stech • 02/14/26 01:49 AM ET
Freebies please follow Techsideline on Instagram please, it will help you
Stech • 02/12/26 04:00 PM ET
Terry W (aka D)
HOKIEGOBBLE • 02/12/26 03:11 PM ET
What does this have to do with conference realignment? Admin
Will Stewart Admin • 02/14/26 11:46 PM ET
It was a direct response to a Domer challenge on this board, Will.
HOKIEGOBBLE • 02/16/26 06:57 PM ET
Will, you should just rename this and call it the Notre Dame board
Poultrygeist • 02/15/26 11:11 AM ET
Talk about whining. How many years has it been? **
goldendomer • 02/12/26 04:47 PM ET
-1,000!!!
HOKIEGOBBLE • 02/12/26 05:58 PM ET
Why?
TerryD • 02/12/26 04:14 PM ET
Check this out. **
Big12 guy • 02/12/26 08:49 PM ET
You are becoming a flamer on this board, mostly for ND, but now Kansas,
Stech • 02/14/26 08:57 PM ET
I apologize if this post offended you or anyone else. It was
Big12 guy • 02/15/26 07:38 AM ET
Fair enough, you have just gone too far lately, lots of shots at ACC & VT,
Stech • 02/15/26 12:58 PM ET
Every VT fan during the game: RUN THE DAMNED BALL!!! **
reestuart • 02/13/26 08:22 AM ET
Would have slaughtered them if we had!!! **
Stech • 02/14/26 09:03 PM ET
KU won that game because of the interceptions. They changed
Big12 guy • 02/15/26 07:42 AM ET
Everyone that watched the game was perplexed we didn’t run more. I love
Stech • 02/15/26 01:01 PM ET
Ha. I was there with whole fam! 🙃
HOKIEGOBBLE • 02/13/26 07:55 AM ET
It was cold. As a KU fan, it's one of
Big12 guy • 02/13/26 07:58 AM ET
Crispness! Domers Thumpees. Hokies Thumpers!
HOKIEGOBBLE • 02/11/26 09:53 AM ET
What does this have to do with conference realignment? Admin
Will Stewart Admin • 02/14/26 11:46 PM ET
Succinct re annoying posters!
HOKIEGOBBLE • 02/11/26 09:59 AM ET
Now I’m curious if the pompous fans (or their school) should be ranked!
HOKIEGOBBLE • 02/11/26 10:09 AM ET
A hypothical. If ND leaves the ACC, does anyone think
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 08:31 PM ET
You’re missing biggest problem, scheduling ND in November w/ 9 Conf games,
Stech • 02/12/26 08:52 AM ET
Na, overblown. ACC schools and B12 schools would schedule them. **
Big12 guy • 02/12/26 08:58 AM ET
ND is aiming at the SEC, and out of the ACC with no penalties & will only
Stech • 02/12/26 09:20 AM ET
Sankey wants to keep ND out of the Big Ten
TerryD • 02/12/26 10:55 AM ET
Despite the historical bad blood between ND and the Big Ten
SMU Pony • 02/12/26 10:36 PM ET
Not so sure about that **
TerryD • 02/13/26 10:00 AM ET
I believe that. The rivalry between the SEC & B1G is heating up!
Stech • 02/12/26 11:17 AM ET
So, naturally.....ND will ally with him and the SEC
TerryD • 02/12/26 12:40 PM ET
No doubt, although strange bedfellows. I really think the Mag 7+1
Stech • 02/12/26 02:02 PM ET
A night game at LSU every other year would be cool. **
Big12 guy • 02/12/26 10:58 AM ET
ND's history is with some blue bloods, and
Big12 guy • 02/12/26 10:49 AM ET
You keep skipping over November scheduling issue, that's the one to watch.
Stech • 02/12/26 11:06 AM ET
I'm not skipping over it. I just do not
Big12 guy • 02/12/26 11:34 AM ET
Your "The ACC does it as a conference" statement appears to make the
VTHokie2000 • 02/12/26 01:30 PM ET
If the ACC and ND decouple, I think the days
Big12 guy • 02/12/26 04:23 PM ET
Notre Dame will likely enter into long-term agreements with individual
VTHokie2000 • 02/12/26 06:58 PM ET
Playing in November isn't any more of a risk then playing in September.
Big12 guy • 02/12/26 08:51 PM ET
Yes, it is because in September the losing team has anywhere from 9-12
VTHokie2000 • 02/12/26 09:27 PM ET
I mentioned Miami because it was that early game that pushed
Big12 guy • 02/13/26 07:52 AM ET
The reason Kansas has a "choice" is because it is looking to fill out its
VTHokie2000 • 02/13/26 11:20 AM ET
If games are already contracted, then those dates are unavailable. The
Big12 guy • 02/13/26 11:30 AM ET
The reason people make that assumption is because the conference schedule
VTHokie2000 • 02/13/26 11:37 AM ET
Maybe, as I'm not 100% sure, but your
Big12 guy • 02/13/26 11:55 AM ET
As I said the conference will make every effort to schedule the conference
VTHokie2000 • 02/13/26 12:54 PM ET
Yes, and VT could certainly accommodate a late season Tennessee game. **
Big12 guy • 02/13/26 01:21 PM ET
There is nothing to gain by VT and Tenn playing a neutral site game late in
VTHokie2000 • 02/13/26 01:39 PM ET
You just stated that it will be harder for them to get Blue Bloods in Nov.
Stech • 02/12/26 11:49 AM ET
You have created a hypothetical.....
2hhoop3 • 02/12/26 09:13 AM ET
I don't claim to be smarter than anyone
Big12 guy • 02/12/26 09:29 AM ET
You were not asked to prove it....
2hhoop3 • 02/12/26 09:59 AM ET
The ACC and or the B12 need to
Big12 guy • 02/12/26 10:32 AM ET
sure if it is mutually beneficial but
Vippie1 • 02/11/26 12:05 PM ET
Are those brands going to schedule ACC teams, including VT?
TerryD • 02/11/26 03:18 PM ET
as I said doubtful
Vippie1 • 02/11/26 06:14 PM ET
100%, with Penn State probably being the first fan choice. I'd
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 01:54 PM ET
Aside from the traditional rivalry......
2hhoop3 • 02/11/26 02:12 PM ET
Not recently, but times are changing. Remember,
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 02:17 PM ET
Now ask yourself this........
2hhoop3 • 02/11/26 02:38 PM ET
I agree with most of that, but without
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 02:49 PM ET
You don't need the contract to know.......
2hhoop3 • 02/11/26 03:01 PM ET
The "bad" result argument seems to be one
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 03:17 PM ET
I don't think you understand .....
2hhoop3 • 02/11/26 03:56 PM ET
Man, you like to get into the weeds. If there is a scheduling agreement
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 04:12 PM ET
I may get into the weeds......
2hhoop3 • 02/11/26 04:28 PM ET
Maybe i am wrong, but we were not talking about
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 04:42 PM ET
Yes I believe you are wrong........
2hhoop3 • 02/11/26 04:58 PM ET
Right???? I don't disagree
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 06:58 PM ET
I do not know where.....
2hhoop3 • 02/11/26 07:49 PM ET
Which school is your b12 school?
HOKIEGOBBLE • 02/11/26 10:12 AM ET
KU. **
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 10:46 AM ET
Yet another Big12guy "hypothetical" aimed at disparaging the ACC **
SMU Pony • 02/10/26 11:44 PM ET
The B12 isn't in any better position. There sin't
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 08:07 AM ET
Two things can be true...
SMU Pony • 02/11/26 10:02 AM ET
I don't think the B12 would be in the
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 10:46 AM ET
To be fair, perhaps we should strip the Domers of that term…
HOKIEGOBBLE • 02/11/26 10:17 AM ET
Love to see....
TerryD • 02/12/26 11:13 AM ET
BYU did. **
Big12 guy • 02/13/26 09:55 PM ET
Oh, you came to the right place🤔🤣
HOKIEGOBBLE • 02/12/26 03:03 PM ET
No they wouldn't..,....
2hhoop3 • 02/12/26 01:46 PM ET
That is not true..,
2hhoop3 • 02/11/26 08:18 AM ET
I have yet to read on single compelling post that
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 08:30 AM ET
Like I said.....
2hhoop3 • 02/11/26 08:41 AM ET
Again, late season games
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 08:58 AM ET
You are constantly challenged.....
2hhoop3 • 02/11/26 09:08 AM ET
Are those opinion? You state those things
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 09:39 AM ET
Those are not just my opinion.....
2hhoop3 • 02/11/26 09:56 AM ET
If an ACC team did play an OOC game in October or November (not involving
VTHokie2000 • 02/13/26 02:55 PM ET
Rarely, if ever,.does anybody.......
2hhoop3 • 02/13/26 04:32 PM ET
Exactly. You might do it in early October because you still have time to
VTHokie2000 • 02/13/26 05:17 PM ET
The Novelty of playing ND has worn thin
Sunsetunderground • 02/10/26 04:35 PM ET
Actually.......
2hhoop3 • 02/10/26 04:45 PM ET
ND ratings have slipped big time **
AnotherTechW • 02/11/26 08:16 AM ET
ACC games lower ND's TV numbers **
TerryD • 02/12/26 11:14 AM ET
I knew they slipped......
2hhoop3 • 02/11/26 08:23 AM ET
Does it matter? We have produced more "haters" this offseason than any time
goldendomer • 02/10/26 06:20 PM ET
hate may generate more eyeballs then love anyway ,lol
Vippie1 • 02/11/26 01:44 PM ET
I think it does matter......
2hhoop3 • 02/10/26 06:34 PM ET
The people in the suits do not care. They will play ND complaining
goldendomer • 02/10/26 06:39 PM ET
I agree with you....
2hhoop3 • 02/10/26 07:26 PM ET
If ND wants ACC teams on their schedule, they won't terminate-
Baltimore_Hokie • 02/10/26 11:30 AM ET
Most would not, because the terms would be unfair.
Truthahn • 02/10/26 10:54 AM ET
Which month? Late in the seaon would be difficult/impossible. **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/09/26 11:11 PM ET
You just don’t get it
Tailgate Guru • 02/09/26 08:46 PM ET
No, I understand ND used their football as leverage to find
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 08:53 PM ET
Once again, if ND leaves, their decision. Don't let the door
saret • 02/10/26 08:38 AM ET
Then you might be wrong with your assumption. Especially if Notre Dame
VTHokie2000 • 02/09/26 09:29 PM ET
That is 100% Navy's choice
TerryD • 02/10/26 07:06 AM ET
Even though it is Navy's choice, the perception tells a different story.
VTHokie2000 • 02/10/26 10:41 AM ET
You are talking about Shamrock Series games
TerryD • 02/10/26 11:17 AM ET
No, I am talking about a perceptual similar situation as the Navy series
VTHokie2000 • 02/10/26 12:39 PM ET
I am just tired of this board being dominated by useless ND talk
Tailgate Guru • 02/09/26 09:18 PM ET
This thread is about the ACC. **
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 10:30 PM ET
No, it really isn’t
Tailgate Guru • 02/10/26 10:14 AM ET
Wasting your breath.......
2hhoop3 • 02/10/26 11:51 AM ET
The B12 needs the ACC to stay together IMO. Having
Big12 guy • 02/10/26 10:43 AM ET
If I put you in a box, it would be one without a keyboard
Tailgate Guru • 02/10/26 04:19 PM ET
There are only two power conferences
lord4bid • 02/10/26 02:08 PM ET
Conferences Vary By Sport
lord4bid • 02/11/26 08:49 AM ET
The Big 12 was formed in 1997. Since then,
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 11:21 AM ET
Surprised me...
lord4bid • 02/11/26 04:10 PM ET
But you do sound like a typical Big 12 fanboi.
RandomAsianGuy • 02/10/26 01:02 PM ET
Except for the personal attack, you are spot on. It's
Big12 guy • 02/10/26 01:11 PM ET
No need to be sorry. You've been wrong many times,
RandomAsianGuy • 02/10/26 06:35 PM ET
So, do tell, what have I been wrong about? You
Big12 guy • 02/10/26 06:59 PM ET
Sure. Two examples came to mind.
RandomAsianGuy • 02/10/26 07:53 PM ET
hog wash. I remember the discussion about the ACC payout. It
Big12 guy • 02/10/26 10:36 PM ET
Oh gee.
RandomAsianGuy • 02/11/26 12:12 PM ET
Dang Random, you continue to post the numbers of
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 02:08 PM ET
You wanted examples, and I obliged. **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/11/26 06:01 PM ET
Appreciated **
Big12 guy • 02/11/26 06:59 PM ET
You wanted examples, and I obliged. **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/11/26 05:56 PM ET
This YouTuber claimed the Big Ten won's allow ND a partial deal
RandomAsianGuy • 02/09/26 12:52 PM ET
ND legit shook
Maroon Baboon • 02/09/26 07:09 PM ET
Nah, this is a contingency plan
TerryD • 02/10/26 08:01 AM ET
This has become the Notre Dame board :-( **
Tailgate Guru • 02/09/26 06:54 PM ET
I can't see the Big 10 or SEC coming to any
mancunian • 02/09/26 02:38 PM ET
Flug was talking a straight scheduling deal option....
TerryD • 02/09/26 03:00 PM ET
The media companies will drive those games. **
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 03:05 PM ET
Time will tell....
TerryD • 02/09/26 02:10 PM ET
Assume for the moment that
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 02:03 PM ET
You are describing why ND deal has become more destructive to the ACC, your
Stech • 02/12/26 08:39 AM ET
I was making an attempt to step back and look at the
Big12 guy • 02/12/26 08:57 AM ET
ACC is better with their association with ND than without it, TUNNEL VISION
Stech • 02/12/26 09:11 AM ET
So far the ACC has shown zero willingness to change the rotation. **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/09/26 05:14 PM ET
The ACC should not change the......
2hhoop3 • 02/09/26 06:11 PM ET
As long as they a part of the ACC, that is the way
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 05:28 PM ET
No reason for the ACC to schedule around non-conference games
Tailgate Guru • 02/09/26 07:01 PM ET
Or even the October dates since the conference schedule should start in
VTHokie2000 • 02/09/26 07:23 PM ET
I don't know. If Ohio State
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 07:19 PM ET
There’s this game called Ohio State-Michigan
Tailgate Guru • 02/09/26 08:15 PM ET
Until the Committee starts to reward teams for losing marquee games late in
VTHokie2000 • 02/09/26 08:22 PM ET
Has more to do with what network owns what schools **
Tailgate Guru • 02/09/26 08:24 PM ET
I get the network aspect of the game too. My point though is 1 team will
VTHokie2000 • 02/09/26 08:31 PM ET
See my post below please. **
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 08:19 PM ET
Your post is clueless **
Tailgate Guru • 02/09/26 08:23 PM ET
OK, thanks for playing. **
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 08:28 PM ET
Why would Ohio State want to take that risk given that it still has
VTHokie2000 • 02/09/26 07:26 PM ET
You sooo missed my point. **
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 07:29 PM ET
No I didn't because the BTN is generating good to great ratings now
VTHokie2000 • 02/09/26 07:37 PM ET
I wasn't talking about the Big 10, I was refering
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 07:47 PM ET
If the game is being played at Ohio State, then the ACC won't get any boost
VTHokie2000 • 02/09/26 08:01 PM ET
Then you might want to get a school.....
2hhoop3 • 02/09/26 07:53 PM ET
Just trying to get a discussion going on how
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 08:02 PM ET
If that was the case.....
2hhoop3 • 02/09/26 08:07 PM ET
I used tOSU as an example for gods sake. But,
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 08:13 PM ET
Who owns Tennessee and Virginia Tech?
Tailgate Guru • 02/09/26 08:23 PM ET
Even then I don't see ESPN pulling that trigger because it is has more than
VTHokie2000 • 02/09/26 08:48 PM ET
Precisely **
Tailgate Guru • 02/09/26 08:50 PM ET
You're offering hypotheticals......
2hhoop3 • 02/09/26 08:20 PM ET
I don't know. IMO Miami got into
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 08:28 PM ET
When was that......
2hhoop3 • 02/09/26 08:32 PM ET
No, this time you are wrong. **
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 08:35 PM ET
Nope.....
2hhoop3 • 02/09/26 08:37 PM ET
It's a conference realignment board. Me thinks
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 08:39 PM ET
It is fine for you ....
2hhoop3 • 02/09/26 08:43 PM ET
Huh, I could be on this board for another 25 years,
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 08:48 PM ET
Then my apologies.....
2hhoop3 • 02/09/26 08:52 PM ET
yep - it's all on you. Thanks BTW, when I needed a diversion,
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 08:56 PM ET
CBSsports.com is reporting North Dakota State is joining the MWC as a
VTHokie2000 • 02/08/26 10:47 PM ET
MWC released the 2026 FB schedule last week which included only nine teams.
33laszlo99 • 02/09/26 09:45 PM ET
Nevermind. The MWC webpage says NDSU will play a full MWC schedule in 2026 **
33laszlo99 • 02/09/26 11:58 PM ET
I thought the MWC was working on making adjustments, but it still shouldn't
VTHokie2000 • 02/10/26 10:45 AM ET
According to the bylaws, there is a 2 year transition period between FCS to
VTHokie2000 • 02/09/26 10:01 PM ET
I think it's posturing for the next divisional split
Victor Tango • 02/09/26 04:41 PM ET
Based on the TSL interview did right after Franklin was hired, I think even
VTHokie2000 • 02/09/26 07:14 PM ET
There are reports of Sacramento State talking
Big12 guy • 02/09/26 12:36 PM ET
Not a bad deal for either side. **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/08/26 11:07 PM ET
Interesting ND article centering around the ACC and ND relationship **
goldendomer • 02/06/26 05:26 PM ET
Just consider who's been saying this is exactly what's going to happen-
Baltimore_Hokie • 02/10/26 11:58 AM ET
Lots of dumb **
SpeakToDamien • 02/08/26 07:53 PM ET
This thread is funny.
HokieAl • 02/08/26 01:30 PM ET
Just a rehash of the same tired nonsense
Tailgate Guru • 02/08/26 10:12 AM ET
The only thing I’ll disagree with
RVAHokie05 • 02/08/26 03:22 PM ET
Big East is perfect for ND
Millpoint • 02/08/26 09:45 AM ET
Perfect except for money. **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/08/26 12:55 PM ET
ND will find a way
Millpoint • 02/10/26 01:12 PM ET
Some would say even that is perfect for Notre Dame **
VTHokie2000 • 02/09/26 10:07 PM ET
Totally believable. But it just buttresses the argument that ND
Vippie1 • 02/07/26 11:53 AM ET
I think that ND is genuinely torqued at the ACC management
TerryD • 02/07/26 12:01 PM ET
I think the ACC management is torqued at ND's moves since they joined
EDGEMAN • 02/09/26 09:17 AM ET
ND could not possibly be that dumb, it’s not possible. **
Stech • 02/07/26 05:26 PM ET
I'm sure ND is torqued, but agree, they shouldn't be. **
Atlee Hokie • 02/07/26 01:23 PM ET
OK, so they're "genuinely torqued." So? If they think they're getting
saret • 02/07/26 12:24 PM ET
I think that they may be **
TerryD • 02/07/26 01:40 PM ET
Okay. I wish them the best of luck. I'm sure they'll do what they think
saret • 02/07/26 02:05 PM ET
Jim ND Phillips will let ND out with no penalties, that’s the goal here!!!!
Stech • 02/07/26 05:27 AM ET
SEC and B1G wont "bow" but money talks
Vippie1 • 02/07/26 04:44 PM ET
No worries with the BE deal
Vippie1 • 02/07/26 01:05 PM ET
I saw we hold ND to their word. **
EDGEMAN • 02/07/26 09:41 AM ET
I'm sure ND is looking for an option. The SOS is a real concern.
RandomAsianGuy • 02/06/26 11:28 PM ET
SOS isn't a concern for ND
EDGEMAN • 02/07/26 11:47 AM ET
It's not all about playoff access.
RandomAsianGuy • 02/07/26 12:55 PM ET
That is a better argument in years when they beat all of us. **
Truthahn • 02/08/26 05:13 PM ET
They only play a handful of games against ACC teams. Why aren't they...
EDGEMAN • 02/07/26 01:04 PM ET
6 ACC games a year now
TerryD • 02/07/26 01:41 PM ET
I am with you. My point is ND is trying to get out because of SOS and
RandomAsianGuy • 02/07/26 01:13 PM ET
So they want their own refs. Who do they think they are, the
manassashoo • 02/06/26 08:21 PM ET
That is a student reporter at the school newspaper
TerryD • 02/07/26 07:00 AM ET
That small blurb in The Athletic should not have prompted such a robust
33laszlo99 • 02/07/26 11:41 AM ET
Two reporters
TerryD • 02/07/26 11:58 AM ET
Who is the B10 reporter? Do you count Flug as a reporter? **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/07/26 12:58 PM ET
No, it was an Iowa beat reporter
TerryD • 02/07/26 01:42 PM ET
Please leave. **
Atlee Hokie • 02/06/26 07:20 PM ET
Yeah…whatever. The ACC will be fine regardless. **
VT ChemE 1986 • 02/06/26 07:06 PM ET
i agree, leave who cares **
VT Pez4Life • 02/09/26 09:13 AM ET
If they choose to leave, don't let the door hit'em where the
saret • 02/06/26 07:03 PM ET
Isn't that what ACC fans have wanted/still want?
TerryD • 02/07/26 12:04 PM ET
No beef from me. **
Atlee Hokie • 02/07/26 01:13 PM ET
Can't speak for all ACC fans. I'm "meh" on ND one way or the
saret • 02/07/26 12:19 PM ET
I'm definitely not "meh" WRT ND. I despise them as an athletic ...
Atlee Hokie • 02/07/26 12:50 PM ET
ND should do it...
2hhoop3 • 02/06/26 06:00 PM ET
Yeah. And if they get a partial deal with either of the P2, does ND think
Maroon Baboon • 02/06/26 08:02 PM ET
Neither one of the P2......
2hhoop3 • 02/06/26 08:16 PM ET
The SEC is adding a 9th conference game, and there is talk of a scheduling
Maroon Baboon • 02/06/26 08:28 PM ET
The SEC specifically named ND as an option......
TerryD • 02/07/26 08:06 AM ET
This is exactly right. SEC and B1G both have much at stake if ND makes any
33laszlo99 • 02/07/26 11:07 AM ET
Stable "LaGrange Point"
TerryD • 02/07/26 11:42 AM ET
ND writer assumes the SEC and B1G want to enter a scheduling agreement w/ND
Maroon Baboon • 02/06/26 05:52 PM ET
Notre Dame can kiss me squarely on my butt. **
Atlee Hokie • 02/06/26 10:26 PM ET
Interestingly, Flug is talking about this right now
TerryD • 02/06/26 06:16 PM ET
Yes. I think it’s credible that ND would want a partial deal with B10/SEC.
RandomAsianGuy • 02/06/26 11:32 PM ET
That is not what Flugaur is saying
TerryD • 02/07/26 07:02 AM ET
I know what he said. But
RandomAsianGuy • 02/07/26 12:54 PM ET
No problem with partial membership
TerryD • 02/07/26 01:43 PM ET
Technically ND can stay with the ACC and do a 5 game schedule with the B10.
RandomAsianGuy • 02/07/26 03:13 PM ET
I'll give a listen. There is rumblings happening **
goldendomer • 02/06/26 06:31 PM ET
Our beat writers are still saying it is fine in public, but not behind the
goldendomer • 02/06/26 05:59 PM ET
It is buy a spot in the CFB...out of hand unless someone steps in
lord4bid • 02/05/26 10:45 AM ET
He could donate 100 billion to ECU and they couldn't win a MNC. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 02/06/26 03:22 PM ET
This has always been the case.
RVAHokie05 • 02/05/26 04:17 PM ET
Do you feel that this is a trial run for many programs not in the P2?
The_VT_Rock • 02/04/26 03:33 PM ET
It’s a semi open race for a few spots
RandomAsianGuy • 02/04/26 11:04 PM ET
This entire discussion assumes no govenment interference
Vippie1 • 02/05/26 09:36 AM ET
Even if the non-P2s are pushed to the edge, Congress may still decide to
VTHokie2000 • 02/05/26 10:18 AM ET
yep the P2 could still do their own thing but
Vippie1 • 02/05/26 11:03 AM ET
I don't disagree that having antitrust exemption makes the situation much
VTHokie2000 • 02/05/26 11:41 AM ET
You dont go in tentative All the way,
1947Sunbowl • 02/04/26 07:48 PM ET
Exactly. Whatever decision VT makes in terms of which path at the fork in
VTHokie2000 • 02/04/26 11:24 PM ET
In my humble opinion, I think we all put
Big12 guy • 02/04/26 04:52 PM ET
Agreed - particularly in the ACC
VT ChemE 1986 • 02/05/26 12:31 PM ET
But for how long will those top teams want to remain in the ACC though?
VTHokie2000 • 02/05/26 02:40 PM ET
Could Indiana still have "overachieved" without the Big Ten money though?
VTHokie2000 • 02/04/26 06:23 PM ET
You’re leaving out IU’s Mark Cuban money. Also, billionaire Ken Griffin
HokieNeal • 02/07/26 12:59 PM ET
I found another article that talked about the upgrades Indiana did to the
VTHokie2000 • 02/08/26 10:36 PM ET
I believe Cuban's money is more recent though. My post was referring to
VTHokie2000 • 02/08/26 10:24 PM ET
When you break down the players, I think the answer
Big12 guy • 02/04/26 07:02 PM ET
Could Indiana have hired Cignetti though without the Big Ten money to pay
VTHokie2000 • 02/04/26 08:35 PM ET
Wait. You guys just paid big money to hire a coach without P2
Big12 guy • 02/04/26 08:43 PM ET
A reason VT and UNC made the coaching decisions is because they are trying
VTHokie2000 • 02/04/26 11:12 PM ET
I think some are trying to get in the P2...
The_VT_Rock • 02/04/26 05:03 PM ET
I can only speak for some in the B12. they
Big12 guy • 02/04/26 05:16 PM ET
FSU became a debt king
RandomAsianGuy • 02/03/26 06:10 PM ET
FSU is still the biggest brand in the ACC. They will be fine
HokieAl • 02/04/26 09:06 PM ET
Debt is one thing, it can be managed, brand value is different
1947Sunbowl • 02/06/26 09:16 AM ET
FSU will be fine for sure. But I don’t know if they will get an invite. **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/05/26 12:08 PM ET
You don't think the Big Ten would want to add FSU given all their snowbird
VTHokie2000 • 02/05/26 01:28 PM ET
I don't. I could see Miami ahead of FSU. **
reestuart • 02/06/26 10:39 AM ET
Given that Northwestern and USC are the only private schools currently in
VTHokie2000 • 02/06/26 01:15 PM ET
My thinking is the draw on TV is likely a wash. If you're talking trying
reestuart • 02/06/26 01:18 PM ET
I don't disagree that the TV ratings are probably a wash. Likewise, I
VTHokie2000 • 02/06/26 01:34 PM ET
Aside from JAX, the other cities are as close to Miami as Tallahassee.
reestuart • 02/06/26 02:24 PM ET
Right now, I agree with you that it would be a lot easier to get tickets in
VTHokie2000 • 02/06/26 02:34 PM ET
As I said, it’s an open race and FSU has a chance. But they’re behind Miami **
RandomAsianGuy • 02/05/26 11:14 PM ET
I'm not sure anyone is necessarily ahead in that race though. Given the
VTHokie2000 • 02/06/26 01:23 PM ET
No they are not. Butts in seats and viewership matters. FSU better for both **
HokieAl • 02/06/26 10:17 AM ET
Lots of schools run up construction debt
TerryD • 02/04/26 01:21 PM ET
Colorado State and SDSU are meeting their stadium
Big12 guy • 02/04/26 01:36 PM ET
Amortized Bonds for infrastructure
lord4bid • 02/04/26 01:04 PM ET
True,.......
2hhoop3 • 02/04/26 01:21 PM ET
Of course
lord4bid • 02/04/26 02:31 PM ET
Don't think that kind of debt can be considered a good thing
SpeakToDamien • 02/04/26 01:19 PM ET
71% of the university's institutional debt. **
reestuart • 02/04/26 08:44 AM ET
Major stadium renovation just completed - less cheap seats,
PadrosWindup • 02/03/26 08:26 PM ET
I know it’s trendy to renovate but FSU's stadium capacity has been reduced
RandomAsianGuy • 02/04/26 01:13 PM ET
From FSU site
lord4bid • 02/04/26 04:28 PM ET
Can I purchase club level or suite seating at Lane? It's
Big12 guy • 02/04/26 01:23 PM ET
Exactly how I feel about going to games. After going to a few NFL games
reestuart • 02/06/26 02:28 PM ET
Most importantly, 21st century toilets
PadrosWindup • 02/04/26 01:56 PM ET
As an elder football guy
lord4bid • 02/05/26 10:25 AM ET
I've got a 3-5 year window before my wife
Big12 guy • 02/05/26 11:31 AM ET
Qlso costs for legal fees **
1947Sunbowl • 02/03/26 09:11 PM ET
Jim Phillips Q&A
RandomAsianGuy • 01/31/26 11:17 PM ET
What is he supposed to say? The sky is falling and the ACC is doomed?
Lakeridgehokie • 02/03/26 11:07 AM ET
You're not wrong, but it's still funny. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 02/03/26 02:15 PM ET
Pretty rich when the "presence" he's referring to are-
Baltimore_Hokie • 02/02/26 12:01 PM ET
Sounds like he is right and wrong
Vippie1 • 02/01/26 10:12 AM ET
To quote the immortal Michael Ray Richardson...
mancunian • 02/02/26 09:58 AM ET
Worked 4 me, shockingly every thing is good between Jim ND Philips & ND. 🤣
Stech • 02/01/26 07:43 AM ET
Money quote for Stech
TerryD • 02/01/26 09:01 AM ET
Yep **
Stech • 02/01/26 12:30 PM ET
If only ND valued the ACC as much as Phillips erroneously values it
Tailgate Guru • 02/01/26 11:37 AM ET
Im still not clear on why ND pushed hard to get Stanford and Cal in ?
Sunsetunderground • 02/01/26 05:45 PM ET
Simple- ND needs at least one visit to the west coast every year
I85Hokie • 02/03/26 09:25 AM ET
Not any longer
TerryD • 02/04/26 07:29 AM ET
So ND will have west coast football opponents when the USC series ends
Tailgate Guru • 02/02/26 10:28 AM ET
No USC, ND hardly has ever played Cal
TerryD • 02/03/26 07:43 AM ET
Adding three schools...
TerryD • 02/02/26 07:38 AM ET
Why wouldn't? ND has no where to go!
RiverVT • 02/01/26 08:33 AM ET
Delete
Big12 guy • 01/27/26 03:42 PM ET
The 2026 ACC Football Championship Game will kickoff at Noon Saturday
RandomAsianGuy • 01/26/26 03:06 PM ET
Makes sense. I thought they should either move to noon or Friday.
reestuart • 01/27/26 12:31 PM ET
About time ACC and networks raised the white flag on ACCCG
Vippie1 • 01/27/26 08:49 AM ET
with disproportionate revenue sharing, it has to stay **
daveinop • 02/01/26 04:58 PM ET
As long as there is a revenue it stays
1947Sunbowl • 01/30/26 08:20 AM ET
It’s impossible to catch up with the P2 and close the gap.
RandomAsianGuy • 01/27/26 05:24 PM ET
Yep, and every single school would be wise to do everything in their
reestuart • 01/28/26 11:43 AM ET
All of the Conferences need to stop. Bama getting blown out & not mattering
Stech • 01/27/26 09:40 AM ET
"Bama blown out,,," Please, it was only five touchdowns.
33laszlo99 • 02/02/26 09:01 AM ET
Hahaha **
Stech • 02/02/26 02:38 PM ET
Well yeah im for eliminating them all together
Vippie1 • 01/27/26 10:05 AM ET
When the new RFK Stadium is built, the ACC should play the CG in DC.
Maroon Baboon • 01/26/26 05:17 PM ET
That would be great if we even had a championship game or an ACC. **
IB4TECH • 01/30/26 12:17 PM ET
RFK Jr.? :>) **
Tuckahokie • 01/29/26 06:04 AM ET
💯 **
Windows NT • 01/26/26 09:35 PM ET
Would love that, but with ACC HQ in Charlotte, I doubt we will ever see it.
Stech • 01/26/26 05:38 PM ET
The ACC/Charlotte champ game deal is only through 2030
SMU Pony • 01/26/26 06:37 PM ET
Can the ACC do something cool in football? Just once.
Maroon Baboon • 01/27/26 06:01 PM ET
ACC's definition of "cool" would be to play 2 football games simultaneously
VTHokie2000 • 01/28/26 12:57 PM ET
two games, one cup **
MrBayAreaHokie • 02/02/26 06:11 PM ET
And those teams playing would be Duke, Wake, Stanford and BC **
Calamitous • 01/29/26 09:42 PM ET
Then the ACC wonders why fans of both games are booing b/c both defenses
VTHokie2000 • 02/01/26 12:39 PM ET
however, more to the state of NC and championships
1947Sunbowl • 01/27/26 03:17 PM ET
Good to know, but still hard to believe it will ever leave Charlotte, **
Stech • 01/26/26 08:24 PM ET
How is SMU enjoying the ACC?
VT ChemE 1986 • 01/26/26 06:48 PM ET
Well, the alternative was making $7M/year in the AAC playing Tulsa and Rice
SMU Pony • 01/27/26 08:11 PM ET
I will try to make it for the game **
VT ChemE 1986 • 01/27/26 08:18 PM ET
im not pony, but my 2 cousins in dallas are loving it **
Windows NT • 01/26/26 09:38 PM ET
It’s a great story. They are great addition. **
VT ChemE 1986 • 01/26/26 09:46 PM ET
I actually like that time better that time of year, it’s been cold 🥶 **
Stech • 01/26/26 03:44 PM ET
ND/TD nailed Y MOU 4 ND, B1G/SEC needed UNANIMOUS CONSENT. N th future NOPE
Stech • 01/25/26 03:00 PM ET
Everything in college football is year to year
TerryD • 01/26/26 03:27 PM ET
True **
Stech • 01/26/26 03:28 PM ET
Jettison ND...
Arch72Hokie • 01/26/26 01:03 PM ET
ND would love that
TerryD • 01/26/26 03:14 PM ET
Less headaches also...tic **
MrFantastic! • 01/27/26 06:51 AM ET
Haha on the fees part.!🤣 I said that was ND Social Media outrage by intern **
Stech • 01/26/26 03:32 PM ET
I just don’t get all the drama around the playoff and championship
VT ChemE 1986 • 01/26/26 11:06 AM ET
In your opinion…
Calamitous • 01/26/26 12:48 AM ET
That's entirely possible, we know it's a matter of time before P2 invade
Stech • 01/26/26 01:17 AM ET
I don't believe...
Arch72Hokie • 01/26/26 01:24 PM ET
Besides.....
TerryD • 01/26/26 03:19 PM ET
Serious question
MrFantastic! • 02/05/26 01:12 PM ET
ND lost all of those rivalries.....
TerryD • 01/26/26 03:17 PM ET
We play ya every year. **
MrFantastic! • 01/28/26 09:36 AM ET
That’s why it should be called Isolationism and not Independence anymore. **
Stech • 01/26/26 03:47 PM ET
"Splendid Isolation" has a nice ring to it
TerryD • 01/27/26 08:31 AM ET
You do understand that if ND leaves or
Big12 guy • 01/26/26 01:41 PM ET
Dude, the implosion is inevitable. Bring it on.
Tailgate Guru • 01/28/26 06:55 PM ET
So you are saying 2-3 🏈 games a year with ND implodes the ACC? **
Stech • 01/26/26 03:35 PM ET
No, I'm saying they are a domino, like it or not. I did
Big12 guy • 01/26/26 04:05 PM ET
I think the Big 12 plays better brand of football…
Calamitous • 01/29/26 09:26 PM ET
Who knows what will happen in 2036, tbut here
Big12 guy • 01/30/26 11:42 AM ET
If this “super league” is to happen…
Calamitous • 01/30/26 10:04 PM ET
ACC doing Irreparable damage to ND is not voting help the ACC. No penalties
Stech • 01/26/26 04:31 PM ET
Not so
TerryD • 01/27/26 08:35 AM ET
ND needs a strong and stable ACC - as does college football. The
Big12 guy • 01/27/26 10:12 AM ET
Yeah. The agreement is what it is at this point.
Maroon Baboon • 01/26/26 02:08 PM ET
ND always showed its true colors
TerryD • 01/26/26 03:23 PM ET
Agree you did, not everyone & ND did join the ACC in 2020 saved your season
Stech • 01/26/26 03:41 PM ET
It was not a life sentence
TerryD • 01/27/26 08:37 AM ET
Much ado about nothing.......
2hhoop3 • 01/26/26 02:24 PM ET
A badge of honor. **
Big12 guy • 01/26/26 02:27 PM ET
The new ND rule just means the committee will game their selections.
Truthahn • 01/25/26 06:08 PM ET
Harder to do that with selection committee, it's full of other conferences
Stech • 01/26/26 01:22 AM ET
easy to do if reps from your voting block and ND are both near the fringe
daveinop • 01/26/26 09:40 AM ET
The Big Ten
RandomAsianGuy • 01/24/26 01:47 PM ET
Why not...
Arch72Hokie • 01/27/26 05:24 PM ET
The BIG position was actually mentioned in interviews last year
HokieAl • 01/25/26 11:49 AM ET
True. Petitti was very transparent.
RandomAsianGuy • 01/26/26 08:37 AM ET
In comparison, the SEC is much more self serving IMHO
HokieAl • 01/25/26 11:56 AM ET
Can you explain in more detail how different
VT ChemE 1986 • 01/24/26 02:43 PM ET
Just my view
RandomAsianGuy • 01/25/26 03:17 PM ET
Good stuff. Thanks. So it is really more about the
VT ChemE 1986 • 01/25/26 03:32 PM ET
Link is not working for me **
Stech • 01/24/26 06:32 PM ET
Next move? - Steal UVA and UNCheat to destabilize the ACC even more. **
Lakeridgehokie • 01/24/26 02:03 PM ET
VT podcast with big booster said UNC already has setaside funds for B1G
Sunsetunderground • 01/24/26 04:33 PM ET
UNC to B1G would actually be good for VT in a roundabout way if the goal is
Maroon Baboon • 01/25/26 12:35 PM ET
Neither...
Arch72Hokie • 01/27/26 05:31 PM ET
If the B1G took UMd, they will have no problem taking UVa. Especially if
Maroon Baboon • 01/27/26 05:44 PM ET
Interesting, I never thought UVA was a cultural fit for the SEC unless they
Stech • 01/24/26 06:36 PM ET
UVa and UNC to me check the Big Ten boxes…
Calamitous • 01/24/26 11:04 PM ET
This post by VPI 1924 removed by Tech Sideline admin
Comparing enrollment is sort of easy. Comparing alumni is not
HokieAl • 01/25/26 02:30 PM ET
AI tells me…
Calamitous • 01/26/26 12:38 AM ET
The B1G has a bunch of big land grants **
Pylons • 01/24/26 11:37 PM ET
Yes they do…
Calamitous • 01/25/26 07:24 AM ET
"Flagship" is meaningless...in a given state, people often
Pylons • 01/25/26 09:47 AM ET
Their AAU thing is snobby but they still use it as a basis…
Calamitous • 01/26/26 12:13 AM ET
It comes down to money. Which
Big12 guy • 01/25/26 10:20 AM ET
Falling behind is the only motivator I see.
Truthahn • 01/25/26 05:56 PM ET
Agreed. **
Pylons • 01/25/26 12:00 PM ET
CFP to remain at 12 teams (for now) **
OU_Sooner • 01/23/26 10:13 AM ET
Special rules for a petulant private school
Calamitous • 01/24/26 01:05 AM ET
Delete… posted to wrong thread
Calamitous • 01/24/26 09:38 AM ET
Its all tied together
TerryD • 01/24/26 08:57 AM ET
This special condition could be squashed if someone wanted to
Calamitous • 01/24/26 09:29 AM ET
Notre Dame has clout because it is 1 of 11 co-owners of the
VTHokie2000 • 01/24/26 02:35 PM ET
I don’t pretend to deny there is a MOU…
Calamitous • 01/24/26 10:40 PM ET
It goes back to credibility......
2hhoop3 • 01/25/26 10:38 AM ET
They may think this is a great deal
TerryD • 01/25/26 09:31 AM ET
They rush to decisions and don’t think things through is the problem
Calamitous • 01/25/26 11:54 PM ET
Would the conferences give up their AQ if ND gives up their guarantee? **
Big12 guy • 01/27/26 11:35 AM ET
Apples and oranges **
Calamitous • 01/29/26 09:04 PM ET
I don't know, there could be an argument made about
Big12 guy • 01/30/26 11:44 AM ET
I believe the answer to your question probably goes back to when the
VTHokie2000 • 01/25/26 12:51 AM ET
I get all that and it’s nothing new
Calamitous • 01/25/26 07:49 AM ET
The WAC was apart of equation because at the time it existed as a FBS
VTHokie2000 • 01/25/26 09:34 AM ET
Does it boil down to this?
TerryD • 01/24/26 03:38 PM ET
The gripe goes back historically for me…
Calamitous • 01/25/26 08:16 AM ET
Yes, because of who currently sits on the CFP Board of Managers.
VTHokie2000 • 01/24/26 06:00 PM ET
Sad reality: There is no perfect playoff format; no pretty good format; no
33laszlo99 • 01/24/26 02:20 PM ET
ND pretty much asks for the abuse…
Calamitous • 01/24/26 10:33 PM ET
No thanks, good with status quo
TerryD • 01/24/26 09:53 AM ET
Perfect if there is no special deal for ND
Calamitous • 01/24/26 10:28 PM ET
So it's formally the G6 now with the PAC included there. Interesting
HokieAl • 01/23/26 02:11 PM ET
Not a surprsing outcome. **
RandomAsianGuy • 01/23/26 12:12 PM ET
New rules, no Miami who beat & was higher ranked than ND, integrity lacking
Stech • 01/23/26 11:13 AM ET
Better deal than what ND proposed, which was the winner of the ND
manassashoo • 01/24/26 08:31 AM ET
That’s hilarious that ND pitched that
Calamitous • 01/24/26 09:40 AM ET
TIC **
manassashoo • 01/24/26 11:04 AM ET
I could see them trying to pitch it though ha ha ha **
Calamitous • 01/24/26 10:41 PM ET
How dare ...
TerryD • 01/23/26 07:25 PM ET
If they would just use the BCS formula everything would be fine. **
IB4TECH • 01/23/26 10:17 PM ET
Few playoffs in sports are about getting the number of best teams to match
Maroon Baboon • 01/23/26 08:21 PM ET
If that rule was this year, Miami beat ND & ranked 10 ND 12, that’s wrong &
Stech • 01/23/26 07:51 PM ET
Double edged sword for ND. Elite teams with a playoff chance would avoid ND **
RandomAsianGuy • 01/23/26 12:23 PM ET
Ya, but we all know they will get in with 1 loss, and
Big12 guy • 01/23/26 02:04 PM ET
I don’t disagree. But it’s not only about the playoff access.
RandomAsianGuy • 01/23/26 03:38 PM ET
It doesn't matter All they have to do is beat them
Big12 guy • 01/23/26 04:23 PM ET
You don’t get my point. Would ND want to finish its season @USC or @Cuse?
RandomAsianGuy • 01/23/26 05:18 PM ET
I think ND will get the best schedule possible. Of course they
Big12 guy • 01/23/26 05:30 PM ET
I’m not conviced. But you are entitled to your own opinion. **
RandomAsianGuy • 01/23/26 06:27 PM ET
That's true, don't even have a 9 game Conference requirement plus 1 P4
Stech • 01/23/26 02:32 PM ET
Just like it has always been my friend. **
Big12 guy • 01/23/26 02:47 PM ET
Yep **
Stech • 01/23/26 03:28 PM ET
Interesting possibility. **
Stech • 01/23/26 01:46 PM ET
"Bowl Season organizers would support facilitating a separate G6 playoff,
Stech • 01/22/26 08:45 PM ET
G6 not interested. They are part of FBS for a reason.
Maroon Baboon • 01/22/26 11:46 PM ET
Exactly. I suspect the G6 schools see the economics of the situation and
VTHokie2000 • 01/24/26 12:53 PM ET
We need a football NIT, but for everyone, not just the G6.
Truthahn • 01/23/26 01:15 PM ET
Yes. And I also don't want the G6 shut out of the CFP either. **
Maroon Baboon • 01/25/26 01:27 AM ET
This - and let the players get paid for
Big12 guy • 01/23/26 02:06 PM ET
Will people watch the FNIT though? It is a question worth asking since it
VTHokie2000 • 01/23/26 04:11 PM ET
Sure they would. I would, you would, and if VT
Big12 guy • 01/23/26 04:25 PM ET
Actually, I wouldn't watch it unless VT was in it. Even if VT was in it,
VTHokie2000 • 01/23/26 04:28 PM ET
The target audience is for people who don’t complain about bowl games **
marcbvtgm • 01/24/26 01:48 PM ET
I don't complain about the bowl game, but I still doubt I am their target
VTHokie2000 • 01/24/26 02:36 PM ET
You are not the medias target market then. I would watch. It
Big12 guy • 01/23/26 04:39 PM ET
Oh I know I am not the media's target because I don't gamble on sports. **
VTHokie2000 • 01/23/26 07:17 PM ET
I know that is your opinion, but where is your proof they aren't interested
Stech • 01/23/26 10:41 AM ET
Alumus may want it, but do the school presidents and ADs want it though?
VTHokie2000 • 01/23/26 03:56 PM ET
True Presidents need to want it, and historically Presidents want more $$$.
Stech • 01/23/26 05:42 PM ET
I am not sure viewership will be better given the competition they will be
VTHokie2000 • 01/23/26 07:16 PM ET
Why wouldn’t it be? Opt Out Bowls are exhibition games with nothing on line
Stech • 01/23/26 07:54 PM ET
How did the NCAA DI Playoffs (aka FCS Playoffs) ratings do this year?
VTHokie2000 • 01/23/26 08:42 PM ET
FCS schools have nothing to do with this, G6 schools are larger and have a
Stech • 01/23/26 10:48 PM ET
The FCS school are relevant though because it will give you and everyone
VTHokie2000 • 01/24/26 12:23 AM ET
Bowls become P4 Playoff and G6 Playoff, nothing to do with FCS, all 3 are
Stech • 01/24/26 07:20 AM ET
If you re-read my post, then you will see my reference to the FCS Playoffs
VTHokie2000 • 01/24/26 12:49 PM ET
You're right, it is my opinion.
Maroon Baboon • 01/23/26 03:36 PM ET
I mean, if they're not in the CFP, why wouldn't they want to be in a-
Baltimore_Hokie • 01/23/26 10:08 AM ET
100% agree, with more on the line, do *campus games and fill the stadium &
Stech • 01/23/26 10:52 AM ET
Texas reported a loss in 2025 because
Big12 guy • 01/22/26 03:17 PM ET
Damn - I sure hope they can find a way to keep the lights on. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 01/23/26 10:08 AM ET
It's not often I read something I like about Texas. I know it doesn't
Big12 guy • 01/23/26 02:02 PM ET
I think Ohio State showed a loss last year. It's all accounting magic. **
reestuart • 01/23/26 08:43 AM ET
One time loss. Already baked in. One J.R. Ewing oil check would easily
Maroon Baboon • 01/22/26 11:53 PM ET
As their biggest alumnus would say "Alright, alright, alright" because they
VTHokie2000 • 01/22/26 07:29 PM ET
3337 threads total