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How many think 75M + *20M VT gift & Franklin/Recruiting gives VT a P2 seat
Stech • 06/06/26 07:19 PM ET
KU got a $300M gift this yr. Does it make them much more likely? **
marcbvtgm • 06/11/26 10:10 AM ET
It won't hurt. Nothing is guaranteed though. Still less than 50% IMO **
RandomAsianGuy • 06/09/26 08:28 PM ET
Has $$$ made Texas Tech more attractive? **
UTPr0sim • 06/08/26 05:43 PM ET
Is attractive the real.......
2hhoop3 • 06/08/26 07:54 PM ET
Bingo. **
Big12 guy • 06/08/26 06:46 PM ET
The P2 will not expand unless their TV partners tell them to do so
CobbCountyHokie • 06/08/26 01:06 PM ET
Let's worry about winning the games that are on VT's schedule now first.
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/08/26 11:32 AM ET
The money is just a tool to be used. Now we need to use it smartly
HokieAl • 06/08/26 11:04 AM ET
With the ACC going to unbalanced payouts
Marooned • 06/07/26 10:54 PM ET
P2 is/will be going to unbalanced payouts as well. That's why I am in less
Maroon Baboon • 06/08/26 10:39 AM ET
Agreed. VT should only be concerned about the things
Marooned • 06/08/26 12:29 PM ET
As long as the P2 has the competitive advantage (money),
Big12 guy • 06/08/26 12:13 PM ET
I definitely believe the P2 will follow the ACC's lead on payouts
EDGEMAN • 06/08/26 11:47 AM ET
IMHO, the next 4-5 years will determine the changes....
Old Line Hokie • 06/07/26 04:59 PM ET
Those things alone? No.
Maroon Baboon • 06/07/26 04:01 PM ET
If it stays like it is, there will be few if any additions to the B1G or
Femoyer Hokie • 06/07/26 01:34 PM ET
Just think, Indiana was one of the "weak links" just three years ago.
Maroon Baboon • 06/07/26 04:06 PM ET
True, but that hasn’t stopped the picking
Marooned • 06/07/26 10:59 PM ET
I'm less certain there will ever really be a P2 then I was previously
Vippie1 • 06/07/26 10:09 AM ET
"... ever really be a P2." Vippie, the P2 is old news. Pehaps you mean
33laszlo99 • 06/07/26 08:00 PM ET
You may be right. But I wish this congressional action would have taken
Maroon Baboon • 06/07/26 04:10 PM ET
Both Sankey and Pettiti.....
2hhoop3 • 06/07/26 10:33 AM ET
I think some streamers take the product global. I agree that Sankey will
33laszlo99 • 06/07/26 08:09 PM ET
I've always said that the B1G might be too big to fail. But the SEC isn't.
Maroon Baboon • 06/08/26 10:49 AM ET
I agree 100%. Sankey doesn't want it, but ESPN does. **
33laszlo99 • 06/08/26 10:56 AM ET
I think we ultimately end up
Vippie1 • 06/07/26 11:33 AM ET
The NFL is precious because it is a monopoly and it controls the size of
33laszlo99 • 06/08/26 10:36 AM ET
Organizations that get media money in the billions will not be persuaded to
33laszlo99 • 06/07/26 08:15 PM ET
If they don't share money with G6s, then what happens to their non-revenue
VTHokie2000 • 06/08/26 10:34 AM ET
I'll back off the G6 sharing part but I do think the P4 will figure it out
Vippie1 • 06/08/26 07:04 AM ET
Please expand your field of view. You seem to see this as simply an issue
33laszlo99 • 06/10/26 10:38 AM ET
There is such a drastic Gulf between the top and the bottom of D1. As a
wwhokie1 • 06/07/26 02:15 PM ET
If they hope.....
2hhoop3 • 06/07/26 01:10 PM ET
Can't see expansion without relegation. **
manassashoo • 06/07/26 09:56 AM ET
Will the American public buy into watching "minor league sports" though?
VTHokie2000 • 06/08/26 10:22 AM ET
What makes EFL relegation work is that there is a chance to be promoted
Maroon Baboon • 06/08/26 10:56 AM ET
Yes, teams in the Championship do have a shot to get promoted to EPL at
VTHokie2000 • 06/08/26 03:10 PM ET
You can't really compare the leagues beneath the PL to the MLB minors or
Maroon Baboon • 06/08/26 03:30 PM ET
But that's my point about it being engrained in the American culture.
VTHokie2000 • 06/08/26 03:47 PM ET
EFL definition **
manassashoo • 06/08/26 12:56 PM ET
English Football (Soccer) League
Maroon Baboon • 06/08/26 03:40 PM ET
Imho
MrFantastic! • 06/07/26 06:20 AM ET
Franklin needs to win and he likely will. The money is secondary because
goldendomer • 06/06/26 08:56 PM ET
I'm still hung up on how it makes financial sense for either P2 conference.
wwhokie1 • 06/06/26 08:14 PM ET
It doesn't make sense. The SEC and Big 10 are already way too big, with-
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/08/26 11:33 AM ET
Winner winner chicken dinner **
Lakeridgehokie • 06/08/26 10:17 AM ET
The math will have to change
1947Sunbowl • 06/07/26 07:54 AM ET
A regular 1 PM NFL game between two bad teams gets more viewers than the-
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/08/26 11:39 AM ET
There will be a substantial stream of additional media money coming in
33laszlo99 • 06/07/26 07:51 PM ET
College football.....
2hhoop3 • 06/07/26 10:06 AM ET
Question about Hokie Ventures and others like it...
The_VT_Rock • 06/03/26 11:29 AM ET
Football could break off from the NCAA if that’s what you’re asking. **
Stech • 06/04/26 05:47 PM ET
No difference for an university who operates a R&D Effort or Medical school
1947Sunbowl • 06/04/26 04:47 PM ET
Not a concern under the current version of HV
HokieAl • 06/03/26 01:25 PM ET
Are those entities truly independent from the school though? I know the
VTHokie2000 • 06/03/26 11:55 AM ET
These are not new
1947Sunbowl • 06/03/26 12:30 PM ET
I realize it isn't new and it is just business. My point though is an
VTHokie2000 • 06/03/26 12:40 PM ET
The issue with a hypothetical relocation is Virginia Tech is what gives
HartwoodHokie • 06/04/26 05:36 AM ET
I don't disagree that seems to be where Hokie Ventures gets its value.
VTHokie2000 • 06/04/26 09:02 AM ET
And the problen is??
1947Sunbowl • 06/05/26 06:24 AM ET
When did I ever say that was a problem? **
VTHokie2000 • 06/05/26 08:45 AM ET
Watching this Senate Hearing...
The_VT_Rock • 06/03/26 11:16 AM ET
Any "real work" is typically accomplished during the closed door sessions
VTHokie2000 • 06/04/26 12:17 PM ET
The committee staffers will write the legislation
mrcaniac • 06/04/26 06:05 PM ET
I agree the staffers are the ones who really write the piece of legislation
VTHokie2000 • 06/04/26 06:25 PM ET
Pretty much **
VaTechHokiesACC • 06/04/26 05:25 AM ET
West Virginia to host super regional
thebluelot • 06/02/26 01:35 AM ET
Such a great site
Millpoint • 06/02/26 05:48 PM ET
We're having a bit of fun out here in Kansas as well. **
Big12 guy • 06/02/26 08:19 AM ET
Got an old Big 8 foe next **
VaTechHokiesACC • 06/03/26 02:38 AM ET
Best of luck!!! **
reestuart • 06/02/26 08:19 AM ET
Congrats **
VaTechHokiesACC • 06/02/26 05:41 AM ET
SEC hate tweet **
MrBayAreaHokie • 05/29/26 11:21 AM ET
I don’t like his cut of data
HokieAl • 05/29/26 12:40 PM ET
-469 **
ancient alien 2018 • 05/31/26 09:21 PM ET
I know, I'm becoming a bougie data snob
HokieAl • 05/31/26 11:04 PM ET
I read your screenname as Hokie A*I* lol...
HokieNL • 05/31/26 11:17 PM ET
reminds me of a Paul Simon song. **
Big12 guy • 06/01/26 07:06 AM ET
Or the cut of his jib...lol **
EDGEMAN • 05/30/26 06:26 AM ET
Key senators strike bipartisan deal on sweeping college sports reform
tupton79 • 05/28/26 02:00 PM ET
Dang it!!! I thought The government would get all this fixed! **
AnotherTechW • 05/29/26 11:32 PM ET
Passage may give Skanky and the SEC schools coronaries!! **
ancient alien 2018 • 05/28/26 08:44 PM ET
How many P2 expansion candidates (solid ones) do you think will help reach
33laszlo99 • 05/28/26 06:06 PM ET
I agree with about 1/2. The B12
Big12 guy • 05/28/26 07:21 PM ET
True. MBB and WBB matter. Big 12, SEC and B1G have upped their game. And
33laszlo99 • 05/28/26 09:47 PM ET
The new media contracts coming
Big12 guy • 05/29/26 07:56 AM ET
If the law passes and the DI schools opt to pool their resources, then why
VTHokie2000 • 06/01/26 01:46 PM ET
Almost zero chance that becomes law as drafted
HokieAl • 05/28/26 05:35 PM ET
A lot in there to digest but did I see essentially a moratorium on B1G SEC
Vippie1 • 05/28/26 04:56 PM ET
Yup. They cannot add a single school if the bill passes as is.
RandomAsianGuy • 05/30/26 01:04 PM ET
Thought they couldn't breakaway but could add teams. **
HouClone • 05/28/26 10:06 PM ET
That is correct* **
tupton79 • 05/28/26 05:02 PM ET
Will Texas avoid future matchup with ND to avoid losses. Opinion inside. **
IB4TECH • 05/28/26 01:53 PM ET
Texas Tech has volunteered....
TerryD • 05/29/26 02:05 PM ET
ND will have no problem finding a volunteer. **
Big12 guy • 05/29/26 03:40 PM ET
for "early in the season" games ? correct.
RTFC • 05/30/26 07:48 PM ET
Ya, they complain on the "ND Boards", but I'm
Big12 guy • 05/30/26 08:24 PM ET
UCONN, ha ha
RTFC • 05/31/26 01:37 AM ET
UConn may not
Big12 guy • 05/31/26 07:30 AM ET
WRT the UConn-UNC game, the AD may have thought they were scheduling a
VTHokie2000 • 05/31/26 12:31 PM ET
The conference schedules are
Big12 guy • 06/01/26 03:36 PM ET
On November 1, 2023, Kansas announced the Big XII's football schedule
VTHokie2000 • 06/01/26 07:02 PM ET
Teams know who their future conference foes will be years in advance though
VTHokie2000 • 06/01/26 05:50 PM ET
ND replaced USC with BYU in five minutes
TerryD • 05/30/26 07:08 AM ET
Curious, if I put the P2 and the ACC, B12, PAC on a map
HokieAl • 05/27/26 10:55 PM ET
Given all the major pro leagues have at least 1 Canadian team, it wouldn't
VTHokie2000 • 05/28/26 09:24 AM ET
Map is a good argument for a Big 12/ACC merger
mancunian • 05/28/26 09:18 AM ET
Looking at the map, and
Big12 guy • 05/28/26 06:50 AM ET
Nice maps. You could make some lists based on SEC/B1G targets,
33laszlo99 • 05/28/26 12:49 AM ET
SEC anonymous team poll says most schools want 24 team playoff per On3’s
Stech • 05/27/26 09:07 AM ET
Be interesting if the schools direct the commissioner this is it
1947Sunbowl • 05/27/26 09:37 PM ET
It’s kind of both, he leads, but has to get their votes, good luck to him
Stech • 05/28/26 08:17 AM ET
Control is an interesting situation for an executive
1947Sunbowl • 05/28/26 09:03 AM ET
Of course they do - expanded CFP access means easier path to job security.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/27/26 10:10 AM ET
Sankey is digging in today on SEC Champ game, his own coaches griped, Lane
Stech • 05/27/26 02:39 PM ET
Smart said SEC could leave the NCAA if they dont get their way
1947Sunbowl • 05/27/26 09:49 PM ET
Championship games will go as soon as they announce the CFP expansion.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/27/26 03:23 PM ET
I disagree with the premise that nobody will care even when the field
VTHokie2000 • 05/27/26 03:49 PM ET
I don't think playing for seeding in a field of 16, 18, or 24 is going to-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/27/26 04:01 PM ET
Given that some schools can generate $4-5M for a home game, it may matter
VTHokie2000 • 05/27/26 04:26 PM ET
It is crystal clear at this point that Sankey knows who pays his salary.
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/27/26 10:19 AM ET
You could say Fox cut its teeth on the NFL Playoffs. It is using what it
VTHokie2000 • 05/27/26 11:03 AM ET
FOX getting the NFL in 1994 made it a "real" network. **
mancunian • 05/27/26 11:43 AM ET
Should SEC be getting props for ending cupcake weekend?
harlote101 • 05/27/26 05:00 AM ET
Can't wait to see all the additional SEC losses at the end of the year. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/27/26 12:57 PM ET
Those G6 schools get paid to play P4 teams. This is going to hurt them
HokieAl • 05/27/26 08:44 AM ET
I do have a problem with forcing G6 schools to "maybe cut some sports" now
VTHokie2000 • 05/27/26 11:18 AM ET
Interesting substack article on upcoming SEC meeting
JM397 • 05/25/26 08:35 PM ET
There is an interesting response by Kyle to a reader in the comments.
JM397 • 05/25/26 08:49 PM ET
Would you like a 10 conference game schedule?
RandomAsianGuy • 05/24/26 04:53 PM ET
I was in favor of a 10-game conference schedule when the ACC had 14 members
VTHokie2000 • 05/27/26 11:34 AM ET
With 17 teams and 10 conference games, we can do 4-6-6. Four rival games! **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/27/26 01:03 PM ET
Maybe. Because there are no divisions, there is a greater risk a team may
VTHokie2000 • 05/27/26 01:36 PM ET
Data says that ACC should absolutely not go to 10 conference games
HokieAl • 05/27/26 10:24 AM ET
Well, that's somewhat deceptive. At least for the ACC and B12,
saret • 05/27/26 02:08 PM ET
That graph......
2hhoop3 • 05/27/26 02:35 PM ET
What more context do you need?
HokieAl • 05/27/26 02:41 PM ET
Game locations,......
2hhoop3 • 05/27/26 02:46 PM ET
I have game times, day of week, week of the season, networks, timezone, etc
HokieAl • 05/27/26 02:54 PM ET
I agree.....
2hhoop3 • 05/27/26 03:04 PM ET
The numbers do not lie. The B12 trolls do
Big12 guy • 05/27/26 08:51 PM ET
If you had a clue.....
2hhoop3 • 05/27/26 09:06 PM ET
I was talking more generally, as no B12 troll that I
Big12 guy • 05/27/26 09:24 PM ET
No Big 12 troll,.....
2hhoop3 • 05/27/26 09:34 PM ET
I'm not deflecting. I have posted numbers and
Big12 guy • 05/27/26 09:40 PM ET
Here is a hint for you sport....,
2hhoop3 • 05/27/26 09:49 PM ET
My ability may be suspect,
Big12 guy • 05/28/26 07:00 AM ET
This is my data collected manually and entered by hand.
HokieAl • 05/27/26 02:34 PM ET
Thanks for replying. First, it was not my intent to imply bias or an
saret • 05/27/26 02:46 PM ET
To clarify, my user name is Hokie AL as an short version of my actual name
HokieAl • 05/27/26 02:50 PM ET
Apologies. From just reading it, it's tough to differentiate between
saret • 05/27/26 03:08 PM ET
Thanks. This proves the P2 have an incentive to move to 10 game schedule. **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/27/26 01:07 PM ET
It very simply depends on which OOC games you eliminate.
Femoyer Hokie • 05/27/26 10:32 AM ET
Yes. **
reestuart • 05/27/26 08:52 AM ET
Just what we all want - more games vs. ACC opponents!
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/26/26 10:42 AM ET
Yes **
Stech • 05/25/26 06:42 PM ET
Obvious implication for ND
RandomAsianGuy • 05/25/26 01:05 PM ET
College athletics have not listened to consumers for 10 years,
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/25/26 10:56 AM ET
If conferences can't be round robin, they should play as many conference
Maroon Baboon • 05/24/26 06:02 PM ET
First choice would be smaller conferences so we can play round. Robin.
wwhokie1 • 05/24/26 09:11 PM ET
agree there are NO/NADA/Zilch good options
Vippie1 • 05/25/26 05:21 PM ET
While I agree with the round robin, I'm
Big12 guy • 05/25/26 09:11 AM ET
LOL, say you don't know much about SEC schools without saying you don't.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/26/26 10:45 AM ET
I don't know, what about
Big12 guy • 05/26/26 12:02 PM ET
Bristol was a one off, for several reasons.
Atlee Hokie • 05/27/26 03:14 PM ET
They (BMS, not VT) got Tennessee to do that ONCE, and they had to BEG, and-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/26/26 12:27 PM ET
I think the 24 team playoff will lead to a 10 game conference schedule.
RandomAsianGuy • 05/25/26 12:55 PM ET
If the people putting the CFP format together were smart, they would
Maroon Baboon • 05/24/26 11:32 PM ET
Conference Championship games are meaningless now, and need to die.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/26/26 10:50 AM ET
Agreed, as many Conference Games as possible!! **
Stech • 05/24/26 07:45 PM ET
2024-2025 revenue numbers are out
RandomAsianGuy • 05/22/26 12:58 PM ET
Big 10 has two more teams than SEC. Adjust for that and the Gap is smaller
wwhokie1 • 05/24/26 07:51 AM ET
Wow…
SMU Pony • 05/22/26 02:19 PM ET
The ACC is in the 5 most populous states. No other conference is.
Maroon Baboon • 05/23/26 09:28 AM ET
Two things stand out to me about the gaps
HokieAl • 05/22/26 03:05 PM ET
It’s all about eyeballs. UM making the championship game
Marooned • 05/23/26 09:05 PM ET
The SEC will need to shore up its region.
hokieball • 05/23/26 11:23 AM ET
About #1. As much as I hate to admit it, as a college football
Maroon Baboon • 05/23/26 09:48 AM ET
If I was the BIG, I'd let ND be ND, and
Big12 guy • 05/23/26 11:16 AM ET
I agree. And in a way, both FSU and A&M have an ax to grind with the SEC.
Maroon Baboon • 05/23/26 12:01 PM ET
A&M is pretty silly to think the SEC should never have invited Texas **
HokiesACC2004 • 05/27/26 05:29 AM ET
And A&M fails to realize that there is a power structure in place in the
Maroon Baboon • 05/27/26 09:26 AM ET
I'm going to go out on a limb and forecast that UT Austin will never-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/27/26 10:04 AM ET
From your lips to God's ears. **
Big12 guy • 05/28/26 10:41 AM ET
At the time of A&M's departure, along
Big12 guy • 05/23/26 12:34 PM ET
Texas is still toxic.
RJHokie • 05/23/26 12:58 PM ET
As much as A&M hates Texas and Sankey, they have all their
HouClone • 05/23/26 11:26 AM ET
Gap still too large to ACC from Big 10/SEC for the brands
HouClone • 05/22/26 01:34 PM ET
Once the ACC success payments take full effect, I predict that the highest
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/22/26 04:35 PM ET
Aren't all SEC teams making the same?
HouClone • 05/22/26 09:57 PM ET
I'm not sure, but you just know now that the ACC has set the trend on this
Maroon Baboon • 05/23/26 09:19 AM ET
My assumption is that the SEC will eventually
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/23/26 09:15 AM ET
The gap is a giant red flag
HokieAl • 05/22/26 03:18 PM ET
"if they can get the invite" is the operative phrase.
Maroon Baboon • 05/23/26 09:59 AM ET
I foresee lots of invitations.
33laszlo99 • 05/23/26 12:24 PM ET
I agree - Clemson better be flying their ACC flags
HouClone • 05/23/26 11:24 AM ET
I agree except
MrFantastic! • 05/23/26 02:11 PM ET
North Carolina State can't be ignored when it comes to UNC going anywhere.
Maroon Baboon • 05/23/26 11:52 AM ET
KU doesn't fit the culture
Big12 guy • 05/23/26 11:38 AM ET
Kansas didn't fit the old SEC. They fit in fine now.
hokie_jayhawk • 05/23/26 08:21 PM ET
Things do change. How about that baseball team? **
Big12 guy • 05/24/26 08:15 AM ET
Killing it **
HokiesACC2004 • 05/27/26 05:32 AM ET
Your statement assumes that the ACC crumbling solves the problem.
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/22/26 04:31 PM ET
It’s not doom and gloom. It’s a prediction based on observed data
HokieAl • 05/22/26 09:32 PM ET
You did not understand my question.
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/23/26 09:17 AM ET
Stop being facetious and ask what you really mean to ask:
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/26/26 10:59 AM ET
That is not what I am asking
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/26/26 11:56 AM ET
If there is no further consolidation INTO the P2, and the status quo-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/26/26 12:12 PM ET
So, the current 3 tiers will expand to 4? OK. Interesting.
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/26/26 12:28 PM ET
I don't think it would even be 20. I think it would be more like 16, or-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/26/26 12:41 PM ET
I think 20 is reasonable
HokieAl • 05/26/26 04:04 PM ET
It's a good vision. Now, all of the selfish forces that stand in the way
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/26/26 12:48 PM ET
You're forgetting that the B12 and ACC's media rights deals will both-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/26/26 01:05 PM ET
I’ll get my popcorn. This will be fun to watch. **
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/26/26 01:45 PM ET
There are a variety......
2hhoop3 • 05/26/26 02:36 PM ET
Re: my "consolidation in a new conference" theory - watch the posturing-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/26/26 03:10 PM ET
I agree..,....
2hhoop3 • 05/26/26 04:55 PM ET
I'll be darned. I agree with your
Big12 guy • 05/28/26 07:04 PM ET
Implosion of the ACC is not a problem solve, it is an outcome
HokieAl • 05/24/26 10:00 PM ET
So, P2 or bust?
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/24/26 10:27 PM ET
Currently, the B12 is not a step up
Big12 guy • 05/25/26 09:19 AM ET
This is what some people on here cannot seem to grasp about all this.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/26/26 11:03 AM ET
I think the top brands will still leave the ACC if invited.
RandomAsianGuy • 05/22/26 02:06 PM ET
Why would the SEC or BIG members want to have their
ancient alien 2018 • 05/25/26 04:30 PM ET
Small price to be paid for the cornering of the market.
RJHokie • 05/25/26 04:51 PM ET
greed is the reason it won't happen. **
ancient alien 2018 • 05/25/26 07:08 PM ET
When going for the whole shebang, there will be a cost.
RJHokie • 05/25/26 07:55 PM ET
Surprised ACC is that much higher than B12
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/22/26 01:06 PM ET
The BigXII media deal was struck before the addition of ASU/Arizona/Utah/CU
thebluelot • 05/22/26 02:20 PM ET
4 corners joined in 24, this is 24-25 season, can give proof of pro rata #s
Stech • 05/22/26 02:56 PM ET
Here you go.
thebluelot • 05/22/26 03:12 PM ET
Don’t insult me, don’t give me homework, give me the facts. **
Stech • 05/22/26 04:56 PM ET
Not sure where to start. I don't have the time teach you how to fact check
thebluelot • 06/01/26 11:42 PM ET
The revenue advantage over the B12 is what I have been preaching for long
RandomAsianGuy • 05/22/26 02:04 PM ET
The ACC will continue to have more than the Big 12
HouClone • 05/22/26 08:26 PM ET
This is the correct answer. with the brands and ND, the ACC is
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 10:57 PM ET
The B12 number will be better for 2025. Houston will see a very significant
RandomAsianGuy • 05/22/26 10:07 PM ET
You're better off......
2hhoop3 • 05/22/26 02:54 PM ET
Took a jab, why? **
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 04:26 PM ET
Don't pay attention to 2hh
thebluelot • 05/22/26 09:27 PM ET
"Proof" they want, like any of us has the
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 10:52 PM ET
I have rebutted everything.......
2hhoop3 • 05/22/26 09:54 PM ET
Not true. Just your opinion. How
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 10:55 PM ET
Our records speak.......
2hhoop3 • 05/22/26 11:02 PM ET
Many Big 12 fans are salty.
RandomAsianGuy • 05/23/26 01:56 PM ET
It was earned......
2hhoop3 • 05/22/26 04:58 PM ET
ND to play Stanford in 2027 and 2028
RandomAsianGuy • 05/21/26 04:17 PM ET
Wasn't their agreement for 5 ACC games? **
EDGEMAN • 05/22/26 07:00 AM ET
A couple of things
1947Sunbowl • 05/22/26 11:48 AM ET
Why wouldn't an ND schedule......
TerryD • 05/23/26 07:33 AM ET
So a Scheduling Agreement with Clemson followed with a Scheduling Agreement
Sunsetunderground • 05/21/26 09:02 PM ET
So, ND got what it wanted from the ACC
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/21/26 08:32 PM ET
I don't think the ACC is involved in the ND - Stanford scheduling
RandomAsianGuy • 05/21/26 10:50 PM ET
My understanding is that when Stanford would have come up in the rotation-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/22/26 11:16 AM ET
That's my understanding as well. **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/22/26 12:08 PM ET
The ACC is desperate to stay relevant
HokieAl • 05/21/26 09:39 PM ET
Are these OOC games like the
Big12 guy • 05/21/26 07:53 PM ET
This is not a good thing for VT. It's only "good" for ND and Stanford.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/22/26 11:26 AM ET
I think that was my point. The ND
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 11:44 AM ET
I think to "help" the B12, any scheduling agreement would have to be-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/22/26 11:49 AM ET
No, if it's a permanent game, or at
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 12:12 PM ET
Ha, thanks for thinking about VT.
RandomAsianGuy • 05/21/26 10:56 PM ET
What's your point? The deal is between ND and Stanford, not ND and the ACC.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/22/26 11:29 AM ET
My point?
RandomAsianGuy • 05/22/26 12:21 PM ET
I think that's what ND actually WANTED to do, but, uncharacteristically-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/22/26 01:18 PM ET
random - the agreement with Clemson and Stanford are
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 12:33 PM ET
Fair point. But the end reuslt is same.
RandomAsianGuy • 05/22/26 12:43 PM ET
So, then I ask - what's the point? **
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 12:45 PM ET
Simply put, you were wrong. **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/22/26 12:47 PM ET
About what? I have been steadfast that my arguments
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 01:35 PM ET
Wrong about ND won't play 6 ACC games. **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/22/26 02:11 PM ET
It's not that. After the announced
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 07:19 AM ET
2024-2025 revenue is out.
RandomAsianGuy • 05/22/26 12:13 PM ET
Ya, those are the tax filings for last year. the New
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 12:29 PM ET
Yeah I undestand. It's alway about next year. **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/22/26 12:47 PM ET
SMH - I'll just stop engaging you. My bad, as you
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 01:35 PM ET
Sorry if I offended you. But seriously I don't think money would increase
RandomAsianGuy • 05/22/26 02:10 PM ET
ND wanted Stanford on the schedule either way because ND considers Stanford
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/22/26 11:55 AM ET
ND likes those West Coast games. USC
Big12 guy • 05/22/26 12:15 PM ET
That’s good news that they will still play 6 ACC games, was that in the
Stech • 05/21/26 05:16 PM ET
In the article: Notre Dame and Stanford University have agreed to extend th
RandomAsianGuy • 05/21/26 05:31 PM ET
Va Tech’s ranked higher than 9 B1G schools, higher or same as12 SEC schools
Stech • 05/20/26 09:19 AM ET
Thank you for writing this
1947Sunbowl • 05/21/26 02:10 PM ET
Stating the obvious: Every school should be in a continual path for
33laszlo99 • 05/20/26 01:32 PM ET
Good points, hope we get academic strengths out better w/ Presidents voting **
Stech • 05/20/26 01:45 PM ET
Does anyone here think VT isn't on par with those schools?
EDGEMAN • 05/20/26 01:20 PM ET
You don’t? Make your case with “facts”, if you don’t. **
Stech • 05/20/26 01:28 PM ET
I put VT ahead of every Ivy League school, and on par with the best...
EDGEMAN • 05/20/26 01:55 PM ET
Okay, I thought you were going in the opposite direction, glad I asked
Stech • 05/20/26 07:29 PM ET
I've never understood Hokies who thought...
EDGEMAN • 05/21/26 07:05 AM ET
I got a very good engineering degree and had a good career. **
TomTurkey • 05/21/26 06:15 PM ET
I agree. says alot of folks
1947Sunbowl • 05/21/26 08:06 AM ET
When I was a student, VT was easier to get into than UVA, but...
EDGEMAN • 05/21/26 08:23 AM ET
I get where you're coming from here, but in the context of conference-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 10:34 AM ET
🏀 doesn’t come close 2 🏈 money, so why have some said 🏀 schools r ahead
Stech • 05/20/26 01:42 PM ET
i think where all this professionalism is bad
MrFantastic! • 05/20/26 12:33 PM ET
No, but I think the B1G does consider prestige
fsghokie • 05/20/26 11:14 AM ET
It looks like AAU is a necessary condition not a sufficient one for the B10
RandomAsianGuy • 05/20/26 10:39 PM ET
It's not mandatory, but highly encouraged. Consider AAU status as a...
EDGEMAN • 05/21/26 08:26 AM ET
They don't consider it that much, ergo why Cal and Stanford are in the ACC. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 11:17 AM ET
Cal nor Stanford can fill a stadium with 65,000 screaming fans
fsghokie • 05/20/26 11:24 AM ET
The University of Phoenix and Cal/Stanford both have the same thing-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 03:51 PM ET
The B1G isn’t going to take anyone with poorly ranked academics
fsghokie • 05/20/26 04:13 PM ET
#158 ranked public school Nebraska, on line one for the Big 10!
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 04:15 PM ET
They were 43rd and AAU when they joined but you know that **
fsghokie • 05/20/26 04:19 PM ET
43rd for public schools. 96th overall and VOTED OUT OF THE AAU-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 04:31 PM ET
They agreed a join a year prior …
fsghokie • 05/20/26 04:54 PM ET
A different world too, the B1G probably has some buyer's remorse on Big Red **
BROman Hokie • 05/21/26 10:39 AM ET
Big Red continues to get the ratings. They were added
Big12 guy • 05/21/26 10:42 AM ET
California and Texas weren't on the B1G's radar back then...
BROman Hokie • 05/21/26 11:54 AM ET
Texas had just signed a deal
Big12 guy • 05/21/26 12:02 PM ET
Didn't read the body did you? Texas A&M, not Texas **
BROman Hokie • 05/21/26 12:09 PM ET
I did in fact read the body. I was
Big12 guy • 05/21/26 12:12 PM ET
I never mentioned Texas, they were still on their high horse back then...
BROman Hokie • 05/21/26 12:22 PM ET
"California and Texas weren't on the BIGs radar" maybe I
Big12 guy • 05/21/26 12:42 PM ET
Oh ok, I meant the states, not Cal or UT, all love **
BROman Hokie • 05/21/26 12:45 PM ET
As high as Nebraska's ratings are now, the Big Ten may even think there is
VTHokie2000 • 05/21/26 11:43 AM ET
The only parties it has any consequences upon or those that aren't-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/21/26 09:21 AM ET
So they fell that far in the rankings since then?
RJHokie • 05/20/26 04:23 PM ET
I still see them listed at #84 public
fsghokie • 05/20/26 04:33 PM ET
It will be up to the leadership and whatever market strategies they decide
VTHokie2000 • 05/20/26 09:51 AM ET
You guys tend to keep me honest, so tonight I
Big12 guy • 05/19/26 08:03 PM ET
What was the exact question you posed to the chat bot?
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 10:41 AM ET
"conference distributions 2026" and ya, it's a projection. **
Big12 guy • 05/20/26 12:14 PM ET
one projection FY 2025...
lord4bid • 05/19/26 10:18 PM ET
You can just wait a week or two and get the actual numbers? **
SMU Pony • 05/19/26 09:19 PM ET
Will the actual numbers be revealed for the private schools or just for the
VTHokie2000 • 05/20/26 09:05 AM ET
I don't know why the NCAA can't require ALL of their members to disclose
IB4TECH • 05/20/26 11:44 AM ET
It probably is due to a federal law and/or the cost accounting standards
VTHokie2000 • 05/20/26 12:01 PM ET
I knew that there are laws involved, but there still seems like there
IB4TECH • 05/20/26 01:06 PM ET
Maybe, but then you might be violating another law or two or three with
VTHokie2000 • 05/20/26 01:27 PM ET
Miami probably gets the higher amount. **
RJHokie • 05/19/26 08:28 PM ET
???? For Baltimore Hokie?
MrFantastic! • 05/19/26 11:18 AM ET
For starters, the ACC could have not added Stanford, Cal, and SMU.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 11:00 AM ET
I would argue that it was forward thinking on the part of WF and BC
thebluelot • 05/20/26 03:56 PM ET
Yeah, no doubt there, but WF/BC shouldn't be running the bingo-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 04:12 PM ET
Forgetting the past and just looking forward for ACC
HokieAl • 05/19/26 01:49 PM ET
If the ACC is going to merge with another conference, then maybe it should
VTHokie2000 • 05/19/26 02:11 PM ET
There is one key difference between B12 and Big East
HokieAl • 05/19/26 02:29 PM ET
I get that and I don't disagree. However, Kansas, Cincy, and maybe Houston
VTHokie2000 • 05/19/26 02:44 PM ET
The ACC is structurally disadvantaged comapred to the P2.
RandomAsianGuy • 05/19/26 01:27 PM ET
Do you think the ACC could have separated football fan bases vs
JM397 • 05/19/26 12:44 PM ET
Baltimore is only negative all the time
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/19/26 12:08 PM ET
Typical post from you. I've said on here 100 times what I think needs-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 11:11 AM ET
My point also.
MrFantastic! • 05/19/26 12:28 PM ET
This is a laughable take. The ACC had no cards to deal?
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 11:14 AM ET
One other thing
MrFantastic! • 05/20/26 12:11 PM ET
The conference should be catering to the schools that create the value.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 03:45 PM ET
Baltimore, the uneven distribution model of
Big12 guy • 05/21/26 10:29 AM ET
The only way the uneven rev dist model will "save" the ACC is if the top-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/21/26 10:54 AM ET
Would the conference offer to pay
Big12 guy • 05/21/26 11:07 AM ET
I don't mean that they're going to jettison them out of the ACC/B12.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/21/26 12:07 PM ET
Why would FSU/Clemson......
2hhoop3 • 05/21/26 12:27 PM ET
Let me break it down for you exactly why:
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/21/26 12:35 PM ET
Not really......
2hhoop3 • 05/21/26 12:54 PM ET
Since you're having a hard time understanding, let me make it even simpler:
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/21/26 01:06 PM ET
You don't need to simplify.....
2hhoop3 • 05/21/26 01:17 PM ET
Explain how I'm wrong. I'll wait.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/21/26 01:39 PM ET
I have already....
2hhoop3 • 05/21/26 01:49 PM ET
Enjoy being wrong. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/21/26 02:00 PM ET
That is exclusively your........
2hhoop3 • 05/21/26 02:41 PM ET
You're entitled to your opinion, even if it's based upon a fundamental-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/21/26 12:57 PM ET
In that case, a new conference would form ( new legal entity) with its own
Femoyer Hokie • 05/21/26 11:33 AM ET
I could see basketball going to streaming
Big12 guy • 05/21/26 11:48 AM ET
HMMM
MrFantastic! • 05/20/26 11:57 AM ET
I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the ACC's terrible decisions.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 03:47 PM ET
Easy
MrFantastic! • 05/21/26 07:19 AM ET
None of that helped anything, but I still don't understand why you think-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/21/26 09:25 AM ET
Because i think due to football failure
MrFantastic! • 05/21/26 10:14 AM ET
Vt got the coach, they got the funding, now
Big12 guy • 05/19/26 12:25 PM ET
I am not a P2 or bust guy.
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/19/26 01:22 PM ET
When only a select few can win a title...
MrFantastic! • 05/20/26 12:41 PM ET
There are 135 Division 1 football teams. The idea that all but one are
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/20/26 01:45 PM ET
"I'll be perfectly content for lil' ol' VPI to win 4-5 games a year!"
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 04:13 PM ET
I think there is a 10/15 club
MrFantastic! • 05/20/26 03:00 PM ET
Is this a direct quote from Jim Phillips? **
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/20/26 11:15 AM ET
Imagine a 5 or 6 team pod with
Big12 guy • 05/19/26 01:30 PM ET
Many of us have wanted only the large public schools for years. Those
IB4TECH • 05/20/26 11:53 AM ET
I think it's the only way unless they are an
Big12 guy • 05/20/26 12:15 PM ET
No thanks.
hokieball • 05/19/26 02:32 PM ET
You're obviously biased. ; ) **
IB4TECH • 05/20/26 01:08 PM ET
The ACC's academic pride will prevent the conference from dropping the CA
VTHokie2000 • 05/19/26 01:49 PM ET
The schools in the ACC and Big12 will figure it out…..eventually **
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/19/26 01:34 PM ET
Agree 100% **
Big12 guy • 05/19/26 01:39 PM ET
They will not put student athletes in that much travel
MrFantastic! • 05/19/26 12:42 PM ET
There just are not many in your neck of the woods,
Big12 guy • 05/19/26 12:48 PM ET
Marshall? Lmao
MrFantastic! • 05/19/26 09:47 PM ET
I was referring to football, and
Big12 guy • 05/20/26 07:10 AM ET
I think everyone here needs to read the link inside this post.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/18/26 12:53 PM ET
Doesn’t hurt my feelings, and I’ve criticized Notre Phillips as much as
Stech • 05/19/26 01:26 PM ET
Yeah, I think we agree - I wish ACC l'ship was as shrewd as B12 l'ship-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/19/26 01:45 PM ET
Like the Big East Football Conference, it’s a 🏀 1st Conference, just can’t
Stech • 05/19/26 03:36 PM ET
The B12 is a collection of 2nd tier
Big12 guy • 05/19/26 01:35 PM ET
Interesting read. And yeah a dig at VT in there but meh
HokieAl • 05/18/26 09:39 PM ET
You hate the ACC & love B12 like some WVU fans I know, what’s up with that?
Stech • 05/18/26 07:36 PM ET
I'm confused where you're getting that I "adore" or "love" the B12.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/19/26 09:21 AM ET
Agree 100 percent **
VaTechHokiesACC • 05/19/26 12:35 AM ET
FSU seems to be just biding its time for a P2 invite that might never come.
Maroon Baboon • 05/18/26 05:25 PM ET
There's no denying that the ACC will never be able to catch up with the P2.
RandomAsianGuy • 05/19/26 01:13 PM ET
UNC is the most valuable non P2 school/property
mancunian • 05/19/26 11:30 AM ET
I agree, But I'm talking football. I also think UNC's brand value is
Maroon Baboon • 05/20/26 10:48 AM ET
ya, for their football history, for sure. **
Big12 guy • 05/19/26 11:38 AM ET
Overall brand value. Look how many
mancunian • 05/19/26 12:21 PM ET
Depends on how you define value. There are
Big12 guy • 05/19/26 12:31 PM ET
I'll say it for whoever wants to listen - I don't think P2 invites are the-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/19/26 09:28 AM ET
Interesting...
HokieNL • 05/18/26 04:09 PM ET
Yep, remember they even put the ACCCG in Florida every year for that reason
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/18/26 04:19 PM ET
Agreed **
Tailgate Guru • 05/19/26 02:23 PM ET
With all the far flung, fewer conferences now, homogenous is not a word...
HokieNL • 05/18/26 04:27 PM ET
I would say the SEC's strength is in its homogeneity.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/18/26 04:39 PM ET
When did Stanford go from being a private school to a public school? **
VTHokie2000 • 05/18/26 04:23 PM ET
My mistake, my mind was thinking that they are both elitist prestige-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/18/26 04:35 PM ET
No worries. I just wanted to make sure the ACC hadn't deviated from its
VTHokie2000 • 05/18/26 04:41 PM ET
Cal's acceptance rate is 11%, and only accepts 7.5% out of state.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/18/26 04:46 PM ET
Most definitely which is why I jokingly called them a private school **
VTHokie2000 • 05/18/26 04:48 PM ET
Jon Loesche probably views VT with Metro glasses. **
VTHokie2000 • 05/18/26 01:33 PM ET
VT would possibly been somewhere else....
MrFantastic! • 05/18/26 01:12 PM ET
nm
JM397 • 05/18/26 07:52 AM ET
Interesting tweet on university financial positions..
MrBayAreaHokie • 05/18/26 05:16 AM ET
You should really check out Mr. Bay's tweet. Overall college debt,
JM397 • 05/18/26 08:06 AM ET
ACC and The CW reach sublicense agreement thru 2030-31 Admin
Will Stewart Admin • 05/13/26 12:00 PM ET
Nice. That’s 390,000 people glad they’ll get to see Wake take on Cal. **
GreenvilleVT • 05/15/26 01:01 PM ET
Better than not, I guess. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/15/26 12:16 PM ET
at least we get more of Thom. I like him lol
VT Pez4Life • 05/14/26 01:39 PM ET
Biscuits and Ball on the CW!!!!
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/13/26 09:51 PM ET
Awful Announcing story **
Vippie1 • 05/13/26 04:40 PM ET
This is terrible
HokieAl • 05/13/26 03:26 PM ET
As soon as the SEC went all in on ABC/ESPN, the ACC slots were going to
reestuart • 05/20/26 09:24 AM ET
FTR, I think the CW coverage has been good. Way better than ACCN. **
reestuart • 05/20/26 09:25 AM ET
I thought CW rating was better than FS1, ESPN2 or TNT for college sports **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/13/26 06:16 PM ET
Data shows the following
HokieAl • 05/13/26 11:22 PM ET
Thanks. Do you have an average for recent years only? CW contract started
RandomAsianGuy • 05/14/26 12:35 PM ET
Sure. I can show by each year, by week, by school, by type of game
HokieAl • 05/14/26 01:35 PM ET
What about the three most recent years 2023-2025? **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/14/26 06:01 PM ET
2023-2025 data with a few different views
HokieAl • 05/14/26 10:05 PM ET
Thanks. Very interesting. ESPN2 has generally better numbers but for some
RandomAsianGuy • 05/15/26 12:24 AM ET
Those CW numbers are a lot better than what they would be on ESPN+
mrcaniac • 05/14/26 12:20 AM ET
This is the correct take. Better to be on the CW than the ACCN.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/15/26 12:19 PM ET
I concur. ESPN+ is
Big12 guy • 05/15/26 07:54 PM ET
And here is that same data, but also including the main channels
HokieAl • 05/13/26 11:24 PM ET
and ACC specific view
HokieAl • 05/13/26 11:33 PM ET
some of that data confuses me a bit. NBC-SN doesn't even exist anymore
GusDaMan • 05/14/26 11:29 AM ET
They're Notre Dame games, so definite outliers **
BROman Hokie • 05/15/26 12:02 PM ET
This is 11 years worth of data
HokieAl • 05/14/26 11:44 AM ET
The CW games would be streaming only if left on Disney
mrcaniac • 05/13/26 05:43 PM ET
It's only 1 FB game/week, and one BB game per week.
EDGEMAN • 05/13/26 06:17 PM ET
Sounds like a good deal. All ACC games will be on ESPN unlimited. **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/13/26 12:47 PM ET
Does this result in any additional revenue for the ACC?
SMU Pony • 05/13/26 10:28 PM ET
Isn't ESPN our "private equity corporation" in this case?
Truthahn • 05/14/26 01:14 PM ET
Yes, in a way I believe you are correct. However, I believe there may be 1
VTHokie2000 • 05/18/26 12:46 PM ET
I am curious too. **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/13/26 11:10 PM ET
The ACC hates us- LOL
goldendomer • 05/12/26 12:04 PM ET
I'm not sure why anyone cares what happens to the ACC/ND deal.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/12/26 04:52 PM ET
I think ND ends up in whatever secessionist
mancunian • 05/14/26 09:54 AM ET
The ACC people care because it would save the conference if ND joined
Sunsetunderground • 05/13/26 02:48 PM ET
Two Points
TerryD • 05/16/26 11:12 AM ET
ND will never join a conference. They already have no reason to with their-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/13/26 04:11 PM ET
They'll eventually join the B10 if forced to make the playoff.
EDGEMAN • 05/13/26 06:23 PM ET
What would cause ND to join the Big Ten?
TerryD • 05/16/26 11:57 AM ET
I for one hope tradition wins
MrFantastic! • 05/18/26 12:57 PM ET
Why would the CFP ever force them into a conference to make the field?
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/14/26 10:08 AM ET
ND is a TV draw......
2hhoop3 • 05/14/26 11:24 AM ET
You actually think....
TerryD • 05/16/26 11:59 AM ET
I did not say that......
2hhoop3 • 05/16/26 12:17 PM ET
I think entirely differently
TerryD • 05/16/26 12:35 PM ET
You do think......
2hhoop3 • 05/16/26 01:05 PM ET
Lol, ok
TerryD • 05/16/26 01:29 PM ET
There is nothing.....
2hhoop3 • 05/16/26 01:42 PM ET
ND was 102-29 in the last decade
TerryD • 05/18/26 07:40 AM ET
The discussion was about.....
2hhoop3 • 05/18/26 09:17 AM ET
That "pig" is going to excel in the new system
TerryD • 05/18/26 11:15 AM ET
If the pig.....
2hhoop3 • 05/18/26 11:23 AM ET
Which is ironic if people think about it because Notre Dame is 1 of 11
VTHokie2000 • 05/14/26 11:42 AM ET
If the CFP comes to the conclusion that it is able to make more money from
VTHokie2000 • 05/14/26 10:57 AM ET
You mean the B12 right? No network and diminishing TV relationships.
Stech • 05/12/26 06:14 PM ET
Bringing back the old Big East! UConn needs inviting too. **
HouClone • 05/13/26 03:27 PM ET
How long do you wait until you kick Temple out for a third time? **
VTHokie2000 • 05/13/26 03:50 PM ET
The B12 is stable b/c the P2 isn't interested in any of their schools...
BROman Hokie • 05/13/26 10:33 AM ET
I don't get why people overestimate the B12. Sure the ACC sucks
RandomAsianGuy • 05/13/26 07:18 PM ET
ESPN wouldn't WANT the ACC to continue under those circumstances.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/13/26 09:56 AM ET
No one truly knows, we are all guessing. **
Stech • 05/13/26 12:57 PM ET
I would call it more like educated guessing.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/13/26 01:18 PM ET
If the Mag 7 leave, the ACC will not get WVU, Cincy, UCF. Only USF is ?
HokieAl • 05/12/26 06:46 PM ET
Maybe a subset of M7 would leave. No way entire M7 leave. And if some
RandomAsianGuy • 05/13/26 07:15 PM ET
That’s one opinion, as good a guess as any, but I think they will need 🏈
Stech • 05/12/26 09:09 PM ET
When this relationship finally ends, what's next ?
Sunsetunderground • 05/12/26 03:08 PM ET
Big East
TerryD • 05/12/26 03:25 PM ET
You've already done that.
EDGEMAN • 05/13/26 06:24 PM ET
Back To The Future **
TerryD • 05/14/26 06:56 AM ET
That would entail a $12M annual haircut...
SMU Pony • 05/12/26 10:08 PM ET
Why do you think the BE's TV deal would remain at $7.5m/y/m if ND joined?
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/13/26 10:08 AM ET
How valuable are ND's basketball and non-rev sports?
SMU Pony • 05/13/26 10:34 AM ET
I know what I say matters probably zero to you, but trust me on this one-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/13/26 10:49 AM ET
Some back of the envelope math...
SMU Pony • 05/13/26 10:20 PM ET
I think your mind is in a different place than mine here.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/14/26 10:29 AM ET
So you're talking about a Big 12/ACC football centric
mancunian • 05/15/26 08:29 AM ET
I think that's the only play left if the "conference" paradigm continues.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/15/26 10:34 AM ET
I like it. My only quibble with you is on
mancunian • 05/15/26 11:23 AM ET
Something else I speculate a "new" conference would do is abandon the-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/15/26 11:28 AM ET
Choices
TerryD • 05/13/26 07:33 AM ET
If the Mag 7 leave the ACC, the ACC will invite Big East teams, ACC isn't
Stech • 05/12/26 04:19 PM ET
The Mag 7 isn't leaving the ACC
EDGEMAN • 05/13/26 06:25 PM ET
I’m just forecasting if the worst case scenario happens to the ACC, no one
Stech • 05/13/26 09:34 PM ET
Does ESPN really make that much money off the ACCN?
HouClone • 05/13/26 04:34 PM ET
It depends on how much money ESPN was able to get in the ad deal to promote
VTHokie2000 • 05/14/26 09:54 AM ET
Big East is slim pickin's for football poaching. Only four to choose from:
33laszlo99 • 05/12/26 05:02 PM ET
Agree BE 🏈, but it’ll be a 🏀 Conference, and ESPN will buy B12 schools
Stech • 05/12/26 05:55 PM ET
Swarbrick confirmed the Big East was never a true option
Sunsetunderground • 05/12/26 03:38 PM ET
Swarbrick doesn't work at ND any longer
TerryD • 05/12/26 04:08 PM ET
Hmmm, Clemson signed a 10 year scheduling agreement,
Big12 guy • 05/12/26 03:51 PM ET
Not for October and November. **
Sunsetunderground • 05/12/26 04:56 PM ET
USC is going to be another
TerryD • 05/12/26 04:10 PM ET
There isn't one single ACC or B12 school
Big12 guy • 05/12/26 08:03 PM ET
You'll stay in the ACC for other sports, the ACC even w/o top schools will
Stech • 05/12/26 04:26 PM ET
If schools leave the required games will have to go down... Maybe 2 games
goldendomer • 05/12/26 04:40 PM ET
Nahh ND loves the soft schedule, and will walk into the playoff, wins still
Stech • 05/12/26 05:51 PM ET
Check out the schedules for....
TerryD • 05/13/26 01:22 PM ET
Deflection post. **
Stech • 05/13/26 06:06 PM ET
USC is going back on the schedule annually
TerryD • 05/13/26 01:20 PM ET
Soooo, not counting Navy... (whew)
RTFC • 05/16/26 11:08 AM ET
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.. \
goldendomer • 05/12/26 06:27 PM ET
Big East will gladly take them back because the conference doesn't sponsor
VTHokie2000 • 05/12/26 03:13 PM ET
It was bound to happen as long as Notre Dame was the only school with a
VTHokie2000 • 05/12/26 02:37 PM ET
The ACC and its schools voluntarily agreed to this deal
TerryD • 05/12/26 03:27 PM ET
I agree the schools agreed to the deal. However, the devil is always in
VTHokie2000 • 05/12/26 04:24 PM ET
I wasn't behind closed doors
TerryD • 05/12/26 05:06 PM ET
We will never know what conversations were held between the parties because
VTHokie2000 • 05/13/26 09:23 AM ET
ND should love ACC as long as Jim Phillips is the Commish, Miami in NC game
Stech • 05/12/26 01:43 PM ET
Because the ACC went out of its way to attack ND **
TerryD • 05/12/26 03:27 PM ET
Attack? hahaha
RTFC • 05/16/26 10:45 AM ET
Got receipts? **
VaTechHokiesACC • 05/13/26 05:12 AM ET
The ACC never said squat about ND. They only promoted Miami. **
Hokester • 05/12/26 06:03 PM ET
True in your mind, so for you that makes it true. :-) **
Stech • 05/12/26 04:15 PM ET
ND loves the ACC now lol
RandomAsianGuy • 05/12/26 01:35 PM ET
I thought it was more like you hated the ACC?
drb • 05/12/26 12:25 PM ET
I do, I love all this.
goldendomer • 05/12/26 12:32 PM ET
Nebraska loses NIL arbitration, CSC trying to assert itself
PadrosWindup • 05/12/26 07:04 AM ET
2024-2025 revenue prediction
RandomAsianGuy • 05/09/26 02:16 PM ET
You may be right on the average difference. What do you think the split
HouClone • 05/13/26 06:32 PM ET
for 2024-25, no brand fund. Only success initiative. So the variance won't
RandomAsianGuy • 05/13/26 07:12 PM ET
2024-25 EADA reported revenues (P4/Indy)
TerryD • 05/11/26 07:36 AM ET
With that kind of money why ~40 years since last 🏈 National Championship?
Stech • 05/12/26 06:22 AM ET
Answer the same as most places
TerryD • 05/12/26 07:46 AM ET
Agree it’s coaching hires, but do you think there is anything else? TIA **
Stech • 05/12/26 11:48 AM ET
No
TerryD • 05/13/26 07:34 AM ET
Agreed, even w/ ND’s 💰it’s still hard to get a great one, Bear to Saban
Stech • 05/13/26 09:26 AM ET
Have to think there's some creative accounting going into some of these
SMU Pony • 05/11/26 09:00 PM ET
I thought private schools didn’t have to report money
HokieAl • 05/11/26 07:38 PM ET
This is used to enforce Title IX spending, so everybody must report.
33laszlo99 • 05/11/26 09:14 PM ET
I just compared VT across the data sets
HokieAl • 05/11/26 10:31 PM ET
That tells me we need to make the playoffs more often than not... **
EDGEMAN • 05/11/26 11:12 AM ET
“Playoffs?! Don't talk about—playoffs?! You kidding me? Playoffs?! I just
Stech • 05/12/26 07:01 AM ET
Awesome data. Thanks.
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/11/26 10:46 AM ET
Absolutely no need for ND to join a football conference
TerryD • 05/11/26 03:13 PM ET
which is why your azz's should have been booted out of the ACC
ancient alien 2018 • 05/11/26 08:45 PM ET
Message board fantasy
TerryD • 05/12/26 07:48 AM ET
It’s easy to be philosophical when you don’t have worry about
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/11/26 05:34 PM ET
It's important to remember blue blood history
HokieAl • 05/12/26 09:40 AM ET
What you just said was that......
TerryD • 05/13/26 07:36 AM ET
That seems low for the Big 12
SMU Pony • 05/09/26 07:12 PM ET
Thanks. I revised my calc. **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/09/26 11:37 PM ET
The article in the Wall Street Journal today highlights
Big12 guy • 05/08/26 08:58 AM ET
hmmm
Vippie1 • 05/08/26 12:34 PM ET
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