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HokieAl
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Interesting read. And yeah a dig at VT in there but meh

They definitely have a solid history lesson in there about both FSU and the ACC. The two things they left out were the fact that since joining the ACC, FSU has won the ACC 16 times and has won 3 national championships. I’d say it worked out pretty good for them. The other thing they didn’t cover is the absolutely horrendous coaching hires since Jimbo left. They dug their own downfall, just like VT did, with their hires. I doubt they would be complaining quite as much if they were still winning 10+ games each year and making the playoffs. ** Edited by HokieAl at 5/18/2026, 10:00:48 PM
Posted: 05/18/2026 at 09:39 PM ET
(In response to this post by Baltimore_Hokie)

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I think everyone here needs to read the link inside this post.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/18/26 12:53 PM ET
Doesn’t hurt my feelings, and I’ve criticized Notre Phillips as much as
Stech • 05/19/26 01:26 PM ET
Yeah, I think we agree - I wish ACC l'ship was as shrewd as B12 l'ship-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/19/26 01:45 PM ET
Like the Big East Football Conference, it’s a 🏀 1st Conference, just can’t
Stech • 05/19/26 03:36 PM ET
The B12 is a collection of 2nd tier
Big12 guy • 05/19/26 01:35 PM ET
Interesting read. And yeah a dig at VT in there but meh ◄
HokieAl • 05/18/26 09:39 PM ET
You hate the ACC & love B12 like some WVU fans I know, what’s up with that?
Stech • 05/18/26 07:36 PM ET
I'm confused where you're getting that I "adore" or "love" the B12.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/19/26 09:21 AM ET
Agree 100 percent **
VaTechHokiesACC • 05/19/26 12:35 AM ET
FSU seems to be just biding its time for a P2 invite that might never come.
Maroon Baboon • 05/18/26 05:25 PM ET
There's no denying that the ACC will never be able to catch up with the P2.
RandomAsianGuy • 05/19/26 01:13 PM ET
UNC is the most valuable non P2 school/property
mancunian • 05/19/26 11:30 AM ET
I agree, But I'm talking football. I also think UNC's brand value is
Maroon Baboon • 05/20/26 10:48 AM ET
ya, for their football history, for sure. **
Big12 guy • 05/19/26 11:38 AM ET
Overall brand value. Look how many
mancunian • 05/19/26 12:21 PM ET
Depends on how you define value. There are
Big12 guy • 05/19/26 12:31 PM ET
I'll say it for whoever wants to listen - I don't think P2 invites are the-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/19/26 09:28 AM ET
Interesting...
HokieNL • 05/18/26 04:09 PM ET
Yep, remember they even put the ACCCG in Florida every year for that reason
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/18/26 04:19 PM ET
Agreed**
Tailgate Guru • 05/19/26 02:23 PM ET
With all the far flung, fewer conferences now, homogenous is not a word...
HokieNL • 05/18/26 04:27 PM ET
I would say the SEC's strength is in its homogeneity.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/18/26 04:39 PM ET
When did Stanford go from being a private school to a public school?**
VTHokie2000 • 05/18/26 04:23 PM ET
My mistake, my mind was thinking that they are both elitist prestige-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/18/26 04:35 PM ET
No worries. I just wanted to make sure the ACC hadn't deviated from its
VTHokie2000 • 05/18/26 04:41 PM ET
Cal's acceptance rate is 11%, and only accepts 7.5% out of state.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/18/26 04:46 PM ET
Most definitely which is why I jokingly called them a private school**
VTHokie2000 • 05/18/26 04:48 PM ET
Jon Loesche probably views VT with Metro glasses.**
VTHokie2000 • 05/18/26 01:33 PM ET
VT would possibly been somewhere else....
MrFantastic! • 05/18/26 01:12 PM ET