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I'm confused where you're getting that I "adore" or "love" the B12.

You can label my posts ACC "hate," but I would just ask, where am I wrong? The things I post are simply statements of fact. If I'm wrong, please feel free to point out where, and we can discuss. That's what message boards are for - conversation, discourse, etc. And, let me just point out for the record that the only thing I've ever really promoted the Big 12 for is being business savvy. The Big 12 has repeatedly been dealt the worst possible hand, but manages to play it in a way that puts it in the best possible position. The ACC does pretty much the opposite - it continues to shoot itself in the foot every way it can, over and over, time and time again. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelers, but I think anyone would be hard pressed to say that the ACC is anything but the opposite of business savvy. We could also put the shoe on the other foot here - why do you LOVE the ACC? Do you LOVE all the terrible business decisions? Do you LOVE engaging expansion that makes no geographic or financial sense to please Wake Forest? Do you LOVE being in a conference where the main identity is being poorer, crappier version of the SEC? Do you LOVE being in a conference where the primary media rights business partner's marketing points out that it's a poorer, crappier version of the SEC and never puts any teams on TV unless they're playing SEC teams? I mean, what's not to LOVE, right?
Posted: 05/19/2026 at 09:21 AM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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Baltimore_Hokie 05/18/26 12:53 PM ET
Doesn’t hurt my feelings, and I’ve criticized Notre Phillips as much as
Stech 05/19/26 01:26 PM ET
Yeah, I think we agree - I wish ACC l'ship was as shrewd as B12 l'ship-
Baltimore_Hokie 05/19/26 01:45 PM ET
Like the Big East Football Conference, it’s a 🏀 1st Conference, just can’t
Stech 05/19/26 03:36 PM ET
The B12 is a collection of 2nd tier
Big12 guy 05/19/26 01:35 PM ET
Interesting read. And yeah a dig at VT in there but meh
HokieAl 05/18/26 09:39 PM ET
You hate the ACC & love B12 like some WVU fans I know, what’s up with that?
Stech 05/18/26 07:36 PM ET
I'm confused where you're getting that I "adore" or "love" the B12.
Baltimore_Hokie 05/19/26 09:21 AM ET
Agree 100 percent **
VaTechHokiesACC 05/19/26 12:35 AM ET
FSU seems to be just biding its time for a P2 invite that might never come.
Maroon Baboon 05/18/26 05:25 PM ET
There's no denying that the ACC will never be able to catch up with the P2.
RandomAsianGuy 05/19/26 01:13 PM ET
UNC is the most valuable non P2 school/property
mancunian 05/19/26 11:30 AM ET
I agree, But I'm talking football. I also think UNC's brand value is
Maroon Baboon 05/20/26 10:48 AM ET
ya, for their football history, for sure. **
Big12 guy 05/19/26 11:38 AM ET
Overall brand value. Look how many
mancunian 05/19/26 12:21 PM ET
Depends on how you define value. There are
Big12 guy 05/19/26 12:31 PM ET
I'll say it for whoever wants to listen - I don't think P2 invites are the-
Baltimore_Hokie 05/19/26 09:28 AM ET
Interesting...
HokieNL 05/18/26 04:09 PM ET
Yep, remember they even put the ACCCG in Florida every year for that reason
Baltimore_Hokie 05/18/26 04:19 PM ET
Agreed**
Tailgate Guru 05/19/26 02:23 PM ET
With all the far flung, fewer conferences now, homogenous is not a word...
HokieNL 05/18/26 04:27 PM ET
I would say the SEC's strength is in its homogeneity.
Baltimore_Hokie 05/18/26 04:39 PM ET
When did Stanford go from being a private school to a public school?**
VTHokie2000 05/18/26 04:23 PM ET
My mistake, my mind was thinking that they are both elitist prestige-
Baltimore_Hokie 05/18/26 04:35 PM ET
No worries. I just wanted to make sure the ACC hadn't deviated from its
VTHokie2000 05/18/26 04:41 PM ET
Cal's acceptance rate is 11%, and only accepts 7.5% out of state.
Baltimore_Hokie 05/18/26 04:46 PM ET
Most definitely which is why I jokingly called them a private school**
VTHokie2000 05/18/26 04:48 PM ET
Jon Loesche probably views VT with Metro glasses.**
VTHokie2000 05/18/26 01:33 PM ET
VT would possibly been somewhere else....
MrFantastic! 05/18/26 01:12 PM ET