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I think your mind is in a different place than mine here.

Let's just set aside your "back of the envelope math." We're talking about a scenario where the best football programs leave the ACC, and what ND would do in that case - do you really think ND is still going to get a $20M payout from the ACC for its non-revs in that scenario? Where's that money going to come from? I think the group of you that think everything is going to be sunshine and rainbows for the ACC need to peek in literally anywhere that the commentariat doesn't have a vested interest in praying night and day for the conference's continued relevance. It's not a good prognosis. We are in the "latter days of the old Big East" phase right now, today, where the only glue holding the conference together is the threat of litigation. The conference has already started taking on schools that don't help the overall football/basketball brand, don't add any real, actual value (get mad all you want at this statement, the only reason the ACC got any extra money from Disney for SMU and CalFord was entirely contractual,) and make no real sense. The brands that create all the football value are clearly unhappy, have no real interest in retaining conference membership except monetary penalties, and would do pretty much anything to get out tomorrow if they could. By 2029-2030, the road blocks currently keeping anyone from leaving become pretty much nominal, which just coincidentally also happens to coincide with media rights negotiations for other conferences. We're literally just sitting around waiting for the final domino to fall here. And, let me just be clear: I'm not implying that VT is the golden goose of the ACC. VT can spend money, VT can compete if it actually tries, and people will watch VT when they're good. But, I do have a pretty good bead on what VT's actual value is, and the current iteration of the ACC is not compatible. As I've said on here for some time now, I don't think the major football brands in the ACC are P2 bound, at least not most of them. I think there's going to be a consolidation of certain football brands that makes monetary and geographic sense in a new conference. ** Edited by Baltimore_Hokie at 5/14/2026, 10:35:50 AM
Posted: 05/14/2026 at 10:29 AM ET
(In response to this post by SMU Pony)

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The ACC hates us- LOL
goldendomer • 05/12/26 12:04 PM ET
I'm not sure why anyone cares what happens to the ACC/ND deal.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/12/26 04:52 PM ET
I think ND ends up in whatever secessionist
mancunian • 05/14/26 09:54 AM ET
The ACC people care because it would save the conference if ND joined
Sunsetunderground • 05/13/26 02:48 PM ET
Two Points
TerryD • 05/16/26 11:12 AM ET
ND will never join a conference. They already have no reason to with their-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/13/26 04:11 PM ET
They'll eventually join the B10 if forced to make the playoff.
EDGEMAN • 05/13/26 06:23 PM ET
What would cause ND to join the Big Ten?
TerryD • 05/16/26 11:57 AM ET
I for one hope tradition wins
MrFantastic! • 05/18/26 12:57 PM ET
Why would the CFP ever force them into a conference to make the field?
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/14/26 10:08 AM ET
ND is a TV draw......
2hhoop3 • 05/14/26 11:24 AM ET
You actually think....
TerryD • 05/16/26 11:59 AM ET
I did not say that......
2hhoop3 • 05/16/26 12:17 PM ET
I think entirely differently
TerryD • 05/16/26 12:35 PM ET
You do think......
2hhoop3 • 05/16/26 01:05 PM ET
Lol, ok
TerryD • 05/16/26 01:29 PM ET
There is nothing.....
2hhoop3 • 05/16/26 01:42 PM ET
ND was 102-29 in the last decade
TerryD • 05/18/26 07:40 AM ET
The discussion was about.....
2hhoop3 • 05/18/26 09:17 AM ET
That "pig" is going to excel in the new system
TerryD • 05/18/26 11:15 AM ET
If the pig.....
2hhoop3 • 05/18/26 11:23 AM ET
Which is ironic if people think about it because Notre Dame is 1 of 11
VTHokie2000 • 05/14/26 11:42 AM ET
If the CFP comes to the conclusion that it is able to make more money from
VTHokie2000 • 05/14/26 10:57 AM ET
You mean the B12 right? No network and diminishing TV relationships.
Stech • 05/12/26 06:14 PM ET
Bringing back the old Big East! UConn needs inviting too. **
HouClone • 05/13/26 03:27 PM ET
How long do you wait until you kick Temple out for a third time?**
VTHokie2000 • 05/13/26 03:50 PM ET
The B12 is stable b/c the P2 isn't interested in any of their schools...
BROman Hokie • 05/13/26 10:33 AM ET
I don't get why people overestimate the B12. Sure the ACC sucks
RandomAsianGuy • 05/13/26 07:18 PM ET
ESPN wouldn't WANT the ACC to continue under those circumstances.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/13/26 09:56 AM ET
No one truly knows, we are all guessing.**
Stech • 05/13/26 12:57 PM ET
I would call it more like educated guessing.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/13/26 01:18 PM ET
If the Mag 7 leave, the ACC will not get WVU, Cincy, UCF. Only USF is ?
HokieAl • 05/12/26 06:46 PM ET
Maybe a subset of M7 would leave. No way entire M7 leave. And if some
RandomAsianGuy • 05/13/26 07:15 PM ET
That’s one opinion, as good a guess as any, but I think they will need 🏈
Stech • 05/12/26 09:09 PM ET
When this relationship finally ends, what's next ?
Sunsetunderground • 05/12/26 03:08 PM ET
Big East
TerryD • 05/12/26 03:25 PM ET
You've already done that.
EDGEMAN • 05/13/26 06:24 PM ET
Back To The Future**
TerryD • 05/14/26 06:56 AM ET
That would entail a $12M annual haircut...
SMU Pony • 05/12/26 10:08 PM ET
Why do you think the BE's TV deal would remain at $7.5m/y/m if ND joined?
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/13/26 10:08 AM ET
How valuable are ND's basketball and non-rev sports?
SMU Pony • 05/13/26 10:34 AM ET
I know what I say matters probably zero to you, but trust me on this one-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/13/26 10:49 AM ET
Some back of the envelope math...
SMU Pony • 05/13/26 10:20 PM ET
I think your mind is in a different place than mine here. ◄
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/14/26 10:29 AM ET
So you're talking about a Big 12/ACC football centric
mancunian • 05/15/26 08:29 AM ET
I think that's the only play left if the "conference" paradigm continues.
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/15/26 10:34 AM ET
I like it. My only quibble with you is on
mancunian • 05/15/26 11:23 AM ET
Something else I speculate a "new" conference would do is abandon the-
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/15/26 11:28 AM ET
Choices
TerryD • 05/13/26 07:33 AM ET
If the Mag 7 leave the ACC, the ACC will invite Big East teams, ACC isn't
Stech • 05/12/26 04:19 PM ET
The Mag 7 isn't leaving the ACC
EDGEMAN • 05/13/26 06:25 PM ET
I’m just forecasting if the worst case scenario happens to the ACC, no one
Stech • 05/13/26 09:34 PM ET
Does ESPN really make that much money off the ACCN?
HouClone • 05/13/26 04:34 PM ET
It depends on how much money ESPN was able to get in the ad deal to promote
VTHokie2000 • 05/14/26 09:54 AM ET
Big East is slim pickin's for football poaching. Only four to choose from:
33laszlo99 • 05/12/26 05:02 PM ET
Agree BE 🏈, but it’ll be a 🏀 Conference, and ESPN will buy B12 schools
Stech • 05/12/26 05:55 PM ET
Swarbrick confirmed the Big East was never a true option
Sunsetunderground • 05/12/26 03:38 PM ET
Swarbrick doesn't work at ND any longer
TerryD • 05/12/26 04:08 PM ET
Hmmm, Clemson signed a 10 year scheduling agreement,
Big12 guy • 05/12/26 03:51 PM ET
Not for October and November. **
Sunsetunderground • 05/12/26 04:56 PM ET
USC is going to be another
TerryD • 05/12/26 04:10 PM ET
There isn't one single ACC or B12 school
Big12 guy • 05/12/26 08:03 PM ET
You'll stay in the ACC for other sports, the ACC even w/o top schools will
Stech • 05/12/26 04:26 PM ET
If schools leave the required games will have to go down... Maybe 2 games
goldendomer • 05/12/26 04:40 PM ET
Nahh ND loves the soft schedule, and will walk into the playoff, wins still
Stech • 05/12/26 05:51 PM ET
Check out the schedules for....
TerryD • 05/13/26 01:22 PM ET
Deflection post.**
Stech • 05/13/26 06:06 PM ET
USC is going back on the schedule annually
TerryD • 05/13/26 01:20 PM ET
Soooo, not counting Navy... (whew)
RTFC • 05/16/26 11:08 AM ET
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.. \
goldendomer • 05/12/26 06:27 PM ET
Big East will gladly take them back because the conference doesn't sponsor
VTHokie2000 • 05/12/26 03:13 PM ET
It was bound to happen as long as Notre Dame was the only school with a
VTHokie2000 • 05/12/26 02:37 PM ET
The ACC and its schools voluntarily agreed to this deal
TerryD • 05/12/26 03:27 PM ET
I agree the schools agreed to the deal. However, the devil is always in
VTHokie2000 • 05/12/26 04:24 PM ET
I wasn't behind closed doors
TerryD • 05/12/26 05:06 PM ET
We will never know what conversations were held between the parties because
VTHokie2000 • 05/13/26 09:23 AM ET
ND should love ACC as long as Jim Phillips is the Commish, Miami in NC game
Stech • 05/12/26 01:43 PM ET
Because the ACC went out of its way to attack ND**
TerryD • 05/12/26 03:27 PM ET
Attack? hahaha
RTFC • 05/16/26 10:45 AM ET
Got receipts? **
VaTechHokiesACC • 05/13/26 05:12 AM ET
The ACC never said squat about ND. They only promoted Miami.**
Hokester • 05/12/26 06:03 PM ET
True in your mind, so for you that makes it true. :-)**
Stech • 05/12/26 04:15 PM ET
ND loves the ACC now lol
RandomAsianGuy • 05/12/26 01:35 PM ET
I thought it was more like you hated the ACC?
drb • 05/12/26 12:25 PM ET
I do, I love all this.
goldendomer • 05/12/26 12:32 PM ET