You're forgetting that the B12 and ACC's media rights deals will both-
be about to expire, the Big 12's in 2030, and the ACC's in 2036. The Big 12's current GOR expires for its members in July 2031. The ACC, in settling the FSU/Clemson lawsuits, also agreed to implement a staggered reduction in the fee for a member to execute a clean exit from the conference - by the 2029-2030 timeframe, that fee becomes entirely workable in the context of facing down an existential threat to your football program's future viability.
In that context, I don't think the idea of several schools deciding to do something else could be reasonably viewed as conspiring to do something in an underhanded fashion. The contracts will either be up, or there will be exit paths available. They would be making a decision to do something different by implementing options that are available to them.
** Edited by Baltimore_Hokie at 5/26/2026, 1:09:10 PM
Thread Replies (75)
2024-2025 revenue numbers are out
-- RandomAsianGuy
May 22, 2026 at 12:58 PM ET
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05/22/26 12:58 PM ET
Big 10 has two more teams than SEC. Adjust for that and the Gap is smaller
-- wwhokie1
May 24, 2026 at 07:51 AM ET
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05/24/26 07:51 AM ET
The ACC is in the 5 most populous states. No other conference is.
-- Maroon Baboon
May 23, 2026 at 09:28 AM ET
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05/23/26 09:28 AM ET
Two things stand out to me about the gaps
-- HokieAl
May 22, 2026 at 03:05 PM ET
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05/22/26 03:05 PM ET
It’s all about eyeballs. UM making the championship game
-- Marooned
May 23, 2026 at 09:05 PM ET
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05/23/26 09:05 PM ET
The SEC will need to shore up its region.
-- hokieball
May 23, 2026 at 11:23 AM ET
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05/23/26 11:23 AM ET
About #1. As much as I hate to admit it, as a college football
-- Maroon Baboon
May 23, 2026 at 09:48 AM ET
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05/23/26 09:48 AM ET
If I was the BIG, I'd let ND be ND, and
-- Big12 guy
May 23, 2026 at 11:16 AM ET
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05/23/26 11:16 AM ET
I agree. And in a way, both FSU and A&M have an ax to grind with the SEC.
-- Maroon Baboon
May 23, 2026 at 12:01 PM ET
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05/23/26 12:01 PM ET
A&M is pretty silly to think the SEC should never have invited Texas **
-- HokiesACC2004
May 27, 2026 at 05:29 AM ET
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05/27/26 05:29 AM ET
And A&M fails to realize that there is a power structure in place in the
-- Maroon Baboon
May 27, 2026 at 09:26 AM ET
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05/27/26 09:26 AM ET
I'm going to go out on a limb and forecast that UT Austin will never-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
May 27, 2026 at 10:04 AM ET
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05/27/26 10:04 AM ET
From your lips to God's ears. **
-- Big12 guy
May 28, 2026 at 10:41 AM ET
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05/28/26 10:41 AM ET
At the time of A&M's departure, along
-- Big12 guy
May 23, 2026 at 12:34 PM ET
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05/23/26 12:34 PM ET
As much as A&M hates Texas and Sankey, they have all their
-- HouClone
May 23, 2026 at 11:26 AM ET
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05/23/26 11:26 AM ET
Gap still too large to ACC from Big 10/SEC for the brands
-- HouClone
May 22, 2026 at 01:34 PM ET
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05/22/26 01:34 PM ET
Once the ACC success payments take full effect, I predict that the highest
-- VT ChemE 1986
May 22, 2026 at 04:35 PM ET
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05/22/26 04:35 PM ET
Aren't all SEC teams making the same?
-- HouClone
May 22, 2026 at 09:57 PM ET
HouClone
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05/22/26 09:57 PM ET
I'm not sure, but you just know now that the ACC has set the trend on this
-- Maroon Baboon
May 23, 2026 at 09:19 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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05/23/26 09:19 AM ET
My assumption is that the SEC will eventually
-- VT ChemE 1986
May 23, 2026 at 09:15 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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05/23/26 09:15 AM ET
"if they can get the invite" is the operative phrase.
-- Maroon Baboon
May 23, 2026 at 09:59 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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05/23/26 09:59 AM ET
I foresee lots of invitations.
-- 33laszlo99
May 23, 2026 at 12:24 PM ET
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05/23/26 12:24 PM ET
I agree - Clemson better be flying their ACC flags
-- HouClone
May 23, 2026 at 11:24 AM ET
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05/23/26 11:24 AM ET
North Carolina State can't be ignored when it comes to UNC going anywhere.
-- Maroon Baboon
May 23, 2026 at 11:52 AM ET
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05/23/26 11:52 AM ET
KU doesn't fit the culture
-- Big12 guy
May 23, 2026 at 11:38 AM ET
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05/23/26 11:38 AM ET
Kansas didn't fit the old SEC. They fit in fine now.
-- hokie_jayhawk
May 23, 2026 at 08:21 PM ET
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05/23/26 08:21 PM ET
Things do change. How about that baseball team? **
-- Big12 guy
May 24, 2026 at 08:15 AM ET
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05/24/26 08:15 AM ET
Your statement assumes that the ACC crumbling solves the problem.
-- VT ChemE 1986
May 22, 2026 at 04:31 PM ET
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05/22/26 04:31 PM ET
It’s not doom and gloom. It’s a prediction based on observed data
-- HokieAl
May 22, 2026 at 09:32 PM ET
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05/22/26 09:32 PM ET
You did not understand my question.
-- VT ChemE 1986
May 23, 2026 at 09:17 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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05/23/26 09:17 AM ET
Stop being facetious and ask what you really mean to ask:
-- Baltimore_Hokie
May 26, 2026 at 10:59 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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05/26/26 10:59 AM ET
That is not what I am asking
-- VT ChemE 1986
May 26, 2026 at 11:56 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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05/26/26 11:56 AM ET
If there is no further consolidation INTO the P2, and the status quo-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
May 26, 2026 at 12:12 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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05/26/26 12:12 PM ET
So, the current 3 tiers will expand to 4? OK. Interesting.
-- VT ChemE 1986
May 26, 2026 at 12:28 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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05/26/26 12:28 PM ET
I don't think it would even be 20. I think it would be more like 16, or-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
May 26, 2026 at 12:41 PM ET
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05/26/26 12:41 PM ET
It's a good vision. Now, all of the selfish forces that stand in the way
-- VT ChemE 1986
May 26, 2026 at 12:48 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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05/26/26 12:48 PM ET
You're forgetting that the B12 and ACC's media rights deals will both-
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-- Baltimore_Hokie
May 26, 2026 at 01:05 PM ET
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05/26/26 01:05 PM ET
I’ll get my popcorn. This will be fun to watch.**
-- VT ChemE 1986
May 26, 2026 at 01:45 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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05/26/26 01:45 PM ET
Re: my "consolidation in a new conference" theory - watch the posturing-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
May 26, 2026 at 03:10 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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05/26/26 03:10 PM ET
I'll be darned. I agree with your
-- Big12 guy
May 28, 2026 at 07:04 PM ET
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05/28/26 07:04 PM ET
Implosion of the ACC is not a problem solve, it is an outcome
-- HokieAl
May 24, 2026 at 10:00 PM ET
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05/24/26 10:00 PM ET
Currently, the B12 is not a step up
-- Big12 guy
May 25, 2026 at 09:19 AM ET
Big12 guy
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05/25/26 09:19 AM ET
This is what some people on here cannot seem to grasp about all this.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
May 26, 2026 at 11:03 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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05/26/26 11:03 AM ET
I think the top brands will still leave the ACC if invited.
-- RandomAsianGuy
May 22, 2026 at 02:06 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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05/22/26 02:06 PM ET
Why would the SEC or BIG members want to have their
-- ancient alien 2018
May 25, 2026 at 04:30 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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05/25/26 04:30 PM ET
Small price to be paid for the cornering of the market.
-- RJHokie
May 25, 2026 at 04:51 PM ET
RJHokie
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05/25/26 04:51 PM ET
greed is the reason it won't happen.**
-- ancient alien 2018
May 25, 2026 at 07:08 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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05/25/26 07:08 PM ET
When going for the whole shebang, there will be a cost.
-- RJHokie
May 25, 2026 at 07:55 PM ET
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05/25/26 07:55 PM ET
Surprised ACC is that much higher than B12
-- VT ChemE 1986
May 22, 2026 at 01:06 PM ET
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05/22/26 01:06 PM ET
The BigXII media deal was struck before the addition of ASU/Arizona/Utah/CU
-- thebluelot
May 22, 2026 at 02:20 PM ET
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05/22/26 02:20 PM ET
4 corners joined in 24, this is 24-25 season, can give proof of pro rata #s
-- Stech
May 22, 2026 at 02:56 PM ET
Stech
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05/22/26 02:56 PM ET
Don’t insult me, don’t give me homework, give me the facts.**
-- Stech
May 22, 2026 at 04:56 PM ET
Stech
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05/22/26 04:56 PM ET
Not sure where to start. I don't have the time teach you how to fact check
-- thebluelot
Jun 01, 2026 at 11:42 PM ET
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06/01/26 11:42 PM ET
The revenue advantage over the B12 is what I have been preaching for long
-- RandomAsianGuy
May 22, 2026 at 02:04 PM ET
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05/22/26 02:04 PM ET
The ACC will continue to have more than the Big 12
-- HouClone
May 22, 2026 at 08:26 PM ET
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05/22/26 08:26 PM ET
This is the correct answer. with the brands and ND, the ACC is
-- Big12 guy
May 22, 2026 at 10:57 PM ET
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05/22/26 10:57 PM ET
The B12 number will be better for 2025. Houston will see a very significant
-- RandomAsianGuy
May 22, 2026 at 10:07 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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05/22/26 10:07 PM ET
Don't pay attention to 2hh
-- thebluelot
May 22, 2026 at 09:27 PM ET
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05/22/26 09:27 PM ET
"Proof" they want, like any of us has the
-- Big12 guy
May 22, 2026 at 10:52 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/22/26 10:52 PM ET
I have rebutted everything.......
-- 2hhoop3
May 22, 2026 at 09:54 PM ET
2hhoop3
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05/22/26 09:54 PM ET
Not true. Just your opinion. How
-- Big12 guy
May 22, 2026 at 10:55 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/22/26 10:55 PM ET
Many Big 12 fans are salty.
-- RandomAsianGuy
May 23, 2026 at 01:56 PM ET
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05/23/26 01:56 PM ET