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Maybe. Because there are no divisions, there is a greater risk a team may

need to sacrifice 1 of its spots in the "4" group in order for the rotating group of "6" to work. As a result, it could lead to an increase in "forced rivalries" (aka VT's "Godfather" rivalry with Fredo) in lieu of having more "natural rivalries." Plus, that could lead to more unbalanced groups of 6 when you consider the ACC (minus SMU) is already set up with "natural pairings" to ensure each group of 6 has a representative (if possible). Natural Pairings Fredo - Syracuse Pitt - L'ville (aka Ohio River Valley Rivalry) UVA - VT Duke - Wake UNC - NC State Clemson - GT FSU - Miami Cal - Stanford SMU - ???? Depending on the team's 4 protected games and the impact that has on the pairings, VT could end up with both FL schools in 1 group instead of having a FL school in each group. Likewise, VT could end up with 3 NC schools in 1 group instead of 2 in each group. Where that could matter is by having 2 NC schools in a group, VT could always play 1 at home and 1 away in a given year. In some ways that was the beauty of the formula I had created because I could factor in the 6 division games when factoring in potential pairings for the other 6 teams in the division. For example, because GT and Miami were in VT's divisions, I could pair Clemson and FSU together. By doing that I could manipulate the schedule so VT would always play Clemson or FSU at the opposite venue of wherever they were scheduled to play GT (for Clemson) or Miami (for FSU) for that year. It basically guaranteed that VT or most of the other schools should never play Clemson/GT or FSU/Miami both at home or away in the same season. Likewise, the 4 NC schools were always guaranteed to play 2 other NC schools every year and the third NC school every other year. Also, that third NC school would be paired with UVA or VT, which ever VA school wasn't in their division, and still set it up so they played 1 VA at home and 1 VA away in the years they don't play the third NC school. Basically the goal I established for this meaningless exercise was to accomplish 2 things: 1. Create a schedule for every ACC school that would allow them to always play at least 1 team from a state or region (think Clemson/GT, OH River Valley Rivalry, or Fredo/Syracuse) every year. 2. If teams play 2 teams from the same state/region, then they will always play 1 at home and 1 away.
Posted: 05/27/2026 at 01:36 PM ET
(In response to this post by RandomAsianGuy)

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Would you like a 10 conference game schedule?
RandomAsianGuy 05/24/26 04:53 PM ET
I was in favor of a 10-game conference schedule when the ACC had 14 members
VTHokie2000 05/27/26 11:34 AM ET
With 17 teams and 10 conference games, we can do 4-6-6. Four rival games!**
RandomAsianGuy 05/27/26 01:03 PM ET
Maybe. Because there are no divisions, there is a greater risk a team may
VTHokie2000 05/27/26 01:36 PM ET
Data says that ACC should absolutely not go to 10 conference games
HokieAl 05/27/26 10:24 AM ET
Well, that's somewhat deceptive. At least for the ACC and B12,
saret 05/27/26 02:08 PM ET
That graph......
2hhoop3 05/27/26 02:35 PM ET
What more context do you need?
HokieAl 05/27/26 02:41 PM ET
Game locations,......
2hhoop3 05/27/26 02:46 PM ET
I have game times, day of week, week of the season, networks, timezone, etc
HokieAl 05/27/26 02:54 PM ET
I agree.....
2hhoop3 05/27/26 03:04 PM ET
The numbers do not lie. The B12 trolls do
Big12 guy 05/27/26 08:51 PM ET
If you had a clue.....
2hhoop3 05/27/26 09:06 PM ET
I was talking more generally, as no B12 troll that I
Big12 guy 05/27/26 09:24 PM ET
No Big 12 troll,.....
2hhoop3 05/27/26 09:34 PM ET
I'm not deflecting. I have posted numbers and
Big12 guy 05/27/26 09:40 PM ET
Here is a hint for you sport....,
2hhoop3 05/27/26 09:49 PM ET
My ability may be suspect,
Big12 guy 05/28/26 07:00 AM ET
This is my data collected manually and entered by hand.
HokieAl 05/27/26 02:34 PM ET
Thanks for replying. First, it was not my intent to imply bias or an
saret 05/27/26 02:46 PM ET
To clarify, my user name is Hokie AL as an short version of my actual name
HokieAl 05/27/26 02:50 PM ET
Apologies. From just reading it, it's tough to differentiate between
saret 05/27/26 03:08 PM ET
Thanks. This proves the P2 have an incentive to move to 10 game schedule. **
RandomAsianGuy 05/27/26 01:07 PM ET
It very simply depends on which OOC games you eliminate.
Femoyer Hokie 05/27/26 10:32 AM ET
Yes.**
reestuart 05/27/26 08:52 AM ET
Just what we all want - more games vs. ACC opponents!
Baltimore_Hokie 05/26/26 10:42 AM ET
Yes**
Stech 05/25/26 06:42 PM ET
Obvious implication for ND
RandomAsianGuy 05/25/26 01:05 PM ET
College athletics have not listened to consumers for 10 years,
VT ChemE 1986 05/25/26 10:56 AM ET
If conferences can't be round robin, they should play as many conference
Maroon Baboon 05/24/26 06:02 PM ET
First choice would be smaller conferences so we can play round. Robin.
wwhokie1 05/24/26 09:11 PM ET
agree there are NO/NADA/Zilch good options
Vippie1 05/25/26 05:21 PM ET
While I agree with the round robin, I'm
Big12 guy 05/25/26 09:11 AM ET
LOL, say you don't know much about SEC schools without saying you don't.
Baltimore_Hokie 05/26/26 10:45 AM ET
I don't know, what about
Big12 guy 05/26/26 12:02 PM ET
Bristol was a one off, for several reasons.
Atlee Hokie 05/27/26 03:14 PM ET
They (BMS, not VT) got Tennessee to do that ONCE, and they had to BEG, and-
Baltimore_Hokie 05/26/26 12:27 PM ET
I think the 24 team playoff will lead to a 10 game conference schedule.
RandomAsianGuy 05/25/26 12:55 PM ET
If the people putting the CFP format together were smart, they would
Maroon Baboon 05/24/26 11:32 PM ET
Conference Championship games are meaningless now, and need to die.
Baltimore_Hokie 05/26/26 10:50 AM ET
Agreed, as many Conference Games as possible!!**
Stech 05/24/26 07:45 PM ET