Iowa gambling / Cardinas 197 in the portal
Please don't take this as news...just internet surfing and found this 'possibility'
Not necessarily coming from the most reliable source, but been correct on some things via internet. The rumor is several Hawks are being named in the gambling scandal, nothing I've seen official....it reads:
Welp, we knew it was coming…
IOWA GAMBLING SUSPENSIONS RELEASED:
Tony Cassioppi
Nelson Brands
Abe Assad
Cobe Siebrecht
ALL SUSPENDED FOR FULL SEASON. 🫣
*Schriever & Kennedy have received partial suspensions and will miss a few matches.
All of these wrestlers have filed appeals.
I think Cass would be a huge hit, they have Kueter in the wings but playing football too, not sure he's a go this year. Not much behind Assad, Arnold or Stafford behind Brands...I think they want to RS Arnold. The Kennedy and Siebrecht thing seems plausible since they went hard after Franek and Caliendo. the Caliendo pickup was odd, since Kennedy on any given day is as good IMO. I realize Cal was an AA 8th but Kennedy was R12, I think the wins/losses are super close between them and Kennedy has been all Hawk since birth..also stuck around for Marinelli's extra year.
Also, being reported Cardinas (AA at 197) is leaving Cornell. He took care of Andy this year fairly soundly, but was very close 2 years ago. Not sure we go after him though...certainly a high quality guy but I think the staff likes Andy, has TJ, Cody to challenge unless he's dropping to 84 and Sonny in RS. As far as us I think either Cody or TJ are going to designate to 84 and challenge Sam, the other stays up to challenge Andy....no insider info just a guess.
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donjfs3
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and transfer for his covid season. One of those Ivy league academic situations.
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Over the summer it sounded like it could be either 184 or 197.
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donjfs3
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Last I heard was he could make 184 and would go wherever he could crack the lineup but didn't explicitly rule out 197. I had him slotted there with no returning starter but Fisher/Cody could keep him at 197 depending on competition
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hokieCT
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They can't release the names because of privacy reasons.
Link:
Iowa Public Release
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this was reported by a rumor guy (mineo) on twitter...Does not say if it was the NCAA or Iowa...in fact it has not been released by anyone in an official capacity, again just speculation. It could come out to be that this is untrue or completely different people.
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It's been known for a while that some Iowa wrestlers were in the group of athletes that got hit for gambling. The statement from the AD says they are appealing the ruling.
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Nafeikoh
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The guy literally throws crap at a wall and sees what sticks.
Not saying he's wrong this time, but I'd absolutely wait to see what actually comes down the pipe.
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while schools are making a big chunk of their revenue from it. Watch any college game on TV, the biggest sponsors are sports betting, that money is what pays these huge media contracts. Iowa was one of the first states to legalize sports books since they already had about 15 casinos in the state.
As long as they aren't betting on their games, why are the athletes subjected to restrictions that other students or faculty at the school aren't?
And I'm not a gambler, think it's one of the dumbest things there is, but if it's gonna be legal and the schools are gonna profit from it, it's BS that they're punishing kids for doing it.
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It’s probably one of the most posted rules any college athlete sees around the locker rooms and facilities. You won’t find many athletic facilities without those gambling rules posted.
I don’t think it will ever be changed. Id suggest they hold off for four or five years and gamble then.
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** Edited by IronHokie at 8/23/2023, 4:52:56 PM
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when a friend will throw a game (or point shave) for a buddy. Say Tony Cassiopi is friends with the Iowa QB. Tony talks to him before the game and says he bet against Iowa to not cover. Said QB could potentially throw a few interceptions to keep a game close. Disclaimer: Not saying any of this happened at all. But it is not a far fetched scenario by any stretch to have this kind of situation.
School's aren't making direct revenue from gambling sites. TV is. NCAA has little say as to what advertisers TV can/can't sell to. Additionally, Student athletes are bombarded with anti-gambling presentations, messages, and behavior contracts throughout the calendar year. Can't say that they weren't aware. This one is on them.
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and I said the schools get the money through the networks that pay them.
Disagree completely, if the NCAA or the conferences were actually concerned about gambling, they could absolutely include in their agreements with the networks, prohibitions on advertisers. They wouldn't though, because the projected revenue growth over the next decade needed to pay these huge contracts has to come from somewhere, and a few more spurtle commercials aint gonna do it.
I get it that the kids know it's against the rules, but the rules are BS and massively hypocritical.
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It doesn't seem hypocritical to me for the NCAA to bar unethical behavior by athletes/coaches/administrators.
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Nafeikoh
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A lot of the gambling is on their school, which may not seem like a huge deal until you remember that they will have information that isn't publicly available. Kinda like the water boy for the Cowboys betting on them losing to the Potomac River Basin Indigenous Persons. Sure, he's not a player, but he would know things about the Cowboys that no one else would know.
That's what happened at ISU and I wouldn't be surprised at all that this happened here (assuming Mineo isn't full of crap again...).
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it is nothing more than the typical "see, we have a zero tolerance policy" BS so they can claim everything is on the up and up, and keep the money flowing in. Sacrificing a couple kids to keep the cash flowing. If their gonna be so concerned about it, then they shouldn't allow betting on college sports AND the networks should not be allowed to accept advertising for sports books on college broadcasts. Best NIL deal ever: "I am not allowed to place bets because I'm a college athlete, but if I could, I'd use this sports book" followed by a big dramatic wink.
I have a bigger issue with the NFL suspending players for gambling, since they take money directly from the casinos and the irony of the Cin Reds ballpark (ya know, the team Pete Rose played on) having a sports book in the park, but the topic here is college athletes getting suspended.
** Edited by Vienna_Hokie at 8/23/2023, 8:24:06 AM
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But the rules are pretty clear, and all the athletes know them.
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In trouble gambling they might be convinced to do stuff they would not have considered. You might start out betting on other teams, but if you owe a bookie money there is a lot of ways you can pay that back. Keeping gamblers and bookies away from college athletes prevents things from getting worse.
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