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HokiePokie95 OP
Sep 24, 2025 at 08:14 PM ET
VT needs to think bigger than Mullen in their next hire.
Also, get rid of Whit

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Techsupport Techsupport
10mo
Agree on thinking big. With a new, pro, GM model, Whit can stay.
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HokiePokie95 OP
10mo
We're all very much aware of where VT sits on the food chain of $ +.success
However, with the increased funds and some creativity we've got to make a better hire than DM. He's a safer bet than a rising star (I think) but is VTs goal to be 7-5? VT cannot afford another 6-6 or 5-7 type hire just because we're allegedly so insignificant and poor. Maybe someone like Cignetti would prefer a chance to build a legacy at VT over having a couple extra $1MM.....VT will eventually be in the SEC after the next round of conference raids.
capitals1 capitals1
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** Edited by capitals1 at 9/25/2025, 9:44:02 AM ** Edited by capitals1 at 9/25/2025, 9:50:03 AM
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VaTechD
10mo
Lane Kiffin and his GM/AD. I think his name is Glasscock.
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Vippie1
10mo
Da Nile, it ain't just a river
Is the last coaching search and how it ended at all instructive? The absudity of some of the names I've heard floated is only exceeded by the absurdity of the posts claiming those names aren't good enough for VT. If by some freak miracle Mullen actually agreed to come to BlacksVegas VT should immediately put iron chains on him and charter the plane before he has a chance to change his mind.
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HokiesACC2004
10mo
Who is bigger that you have in mind ?
bigbadbird bigbadbird
10mo
Taller?
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dj97223
10mo
Ralph Friedgen still available?
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Bburg Mac
10mo
Doesn't get much bigger than that.
Hokiefied Hokiefied
10mo
Flashback to 2021 - VT can do better than Elko or Cignetti
Time to stop looking down our noses at uber qualified candidates and thinking VT is better than them. News flash: the program needs them more than any of them need this program. VT is old news. A barely was relevant program. If VT can convince Dan Mullen or anyone of his caliber to come I’ll be surprised.
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Vippie1
10mo
At the time I wanted Lombardi or Shula but the board shot it down
Neither had cultural ties to SWVA and just wouldn't be accepted by the donor class.
Hokiefied Hokiefied
10mo
The complications associated with hiring from the undead are infinite
First, are they undead? That’s harder to do than you’d expect. Second, to your point about the donor class, most major world religions have issues with the undead and atheists just won’t believe it’s possible. Third, regardless of the type of undead we’re talking about, locker rooms after a bad game or practice are going to be rough. Keeping and recruiting players will become difficult. I’m here all week folks! Don’t forget to tip your waiters and waitresses. Try the veal!!
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HokiesACC2004
10mo
Two what could have beens
Hokiefied Hokiefied
10mo
As much as I want Mullen, I think he ends up at Okie St or similar
If he moves at all. He may really like UNLV and just want to stay somewhere you can win 8-9 games a year and keep your job. Not a bad gig if you don’t mind living in Vegas. IMO VT has to find this years Cignetti or Elko. Either a guy with a good head coaching track record that was likely constrained by resources (I’m assuming VT steps up) or quiet competence of a seasoned coordinator (could care less about charisma and winning the off season) whose team gets worse and not better. after he leaves. It’s not easy process which is why Pry had to be let go in September. And it’s still a 50/50 proposition if you do it right.
VaTechHokiesACC VaTechHokiesACC
10mo
Let's hope we are are on the right side of 50/50 for a change
IB4TECH IB4TECH
10mo
A program's success can turn on a dime. Prospective coaches will be very
intrigued with what VT has to offer. We are not what we were but we can be.
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EDGEMAN
10mo
Just look at the job Elko did at Dook, and compare that to what Pry did @VT
Yeah, no comparison.
VaTechHokiesACC VaTechHokiesACC
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Seriously
Hokiefied Hokiefied
10mo
We shall see in relative short order
But it’s not happening unless the hubris is replaced by humility.
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HokiePokie95 OP
10mo
What are suggesting here? That the BOV, AD, etc be more humble?
They're already accepting that they need more $ in this insane age of NIL and arm$ race. At the end of the day $ and ability to hire/pay assistants and NIL players is what is needed....in addition to being able to have the freedom to build their own program. TSL board has zero impact on hiring so what are you suggesting by replacing hubris with humility? BOV? AD? Sands?
Hokiefied Hokiefied
10mo
It’s in part a reflection of the donor base that influences the choice
That same donor base has a history of looking down its nose at people like Elko and Cignetti. Hopefully we’ve learned a lesson and don’t just throw a lot more good money after bad.
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HokiePokie95 OP
10mo
Fuente was an A+ hire that didn't work out. Pry.....I'm not sure how the
donors, Whit or anybody was convinced this was a genius hire but it seemed like a decent hire. If I recall correctly, the guys I wanted didn't pan out....one of them being the coach for Marshall. I also believe Mike Young was an A+ hire.
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hok1eboy
10mo
Was listening to a sports talk station in Arkansas today. While they make
a living talking about Razorbacks, SEC and whatever topic of the day might be (in that order) they were discussing the Ok State firing and ranking the early season openings. They rank VT as the best opportunity of the current openings....but they expect Arkansas to enter the party at some point this season...Along with their AD. The VT brand might be bigger than the "sky is falling" crowd might think. The kicker is...now get this...they were also whining that Arkansas doesn't have sufficient funding to compete. I drove off the road. Keep in mind that this is the same team that had enough Tyson Chicken money to go get Calipari from Kentucky and fund a NIL budget that will keep him happy.
Turk Malloy Turk Malloy
10mo
ArKansas AD speaking
Third Lane ?
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Happy Dog
10mo
With big $$$ and an NFL-style GM, VT is plenty attractive
The Mickey Mouse-style athletic department that could only get Brent Pry should be long gone.
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ChrisLords
10mo
Plus one thing I've notice about their football hires is that they pay at
the top of the market. There's no being cheap when it comes to hiring a football coach.
Seikoh_04 Seikoh_04
10mo
Ha, think it all you want, you'll likely be disappointed
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brotherwood
10mo
idk about bigger, but better, yes. Matt Campbell!
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon
10mo
Offer 5 names that you think we can get that are bigger than Mullen?
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HokiePokie95 OP
10mo
Cignetti gets my vote but the current JMU coach is interesting too
South Florida coach I think many would be a better get than DM
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HokiesACC2004
10mo
Come on guys, he is not leaving the BIg 10
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon
10mo
Not getting Cignetti. No one is leaving a P2 job for VT.
Way too much uncertainty. And more importantly, not nearly enough money. IU's B1G TV contact pulling in about 30-40 million per year more per team than the ACC. And is the current JMU coach bigger than Mullen? I don't think most people would agree. A diamond in the rough? Maybe.
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Marooned
10mo
I’m not so sure. Look back at
Dana Holgorson leaving WVU for UH before UH put him back in the B12. He was not being shown the door at the time. Sometimes there are other factors, pay of course, ability to succeed, working relationships, connections, etc. You have to look at it on a case by case basis with each potential hire.
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon
10mo
We are in a new era. The P2 money gap is way more significant now than
a coach leaving WVU for UH a 6 years ago.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
10mo
Would you say the gap between WVU and UH at the time is on par with the gap
between Indiana and VT now? Something else worth considering is that Luke Fickell may be on the hot seat at Wisky. Cignetti's name is being mentioned as a likely candidate for there. If Fickell is fired, then it could turn into a stay at Indiana vs. accept Wisky HC vs. accept VT HC situation for him.
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gobblecreek
10mo
He left for Michigan, they fired him.
Pylons Pylons
10mo
That was RichRod, not Holgorsen
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
10mo
Good luck trying to win a bidding war against a Big Ten team for Cignetti.
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Windows NT
10mo
I like Monty or Chucky
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RJHokie
10mo
Urban Liar for oneβ€¦β€¦πŸ˜€
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Windows NT
10mo
have to neuter him before he sets foot on campus
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RJHokie
10mo
Ha!
Not sure that would work😁!
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Tech76G
10mo
Ain't gonna happen, hope I'm wrong.