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24 team field is a 5 week playoff

6 weeks if you count a MNC prep week. That's crazy. I'd be ok with eliminating CCGs, if everyone played a round robin conference schedule, but that isn't possible with the current alignment. Since CCGs are somewhat necessary, there really should be no more than 16 teams.

Division I should formally split into 3 distinct divisions for football

FBS (current G5) may play SPS (Semi-pro subdivision, current P4) and FCS. No games allowed between SPS and FCS. All three have their own championship with FBS going back to a Bowl +1 championship. SPS would have a 12-16 team playoff. FCS would continue with a 24 team playoff.

I'm game

Make the 3 Boise St., Oregon St., and Memphis (formerly St.) Every team plays 1 from each of the other divisions. Four team playoff of division champs to determine conference champ. The divisions would resemble Pac +Boise and BYU, XII + SMU, Big East + UVA, ACC

I understand the sentiment, but such a bill is unenforceable

Suppose whatever conference(s) they are in adopts a schedule that does not accomodate the teams playing every year. Is the conference bound by this legislation?

Although Dook is a more valuable brand,

I think they are in worse position than us. Being small in this day and age is a real impediment. Football viewership is low and political forces are against them. Their best asset basketball, has a strange symbiotic relationship with UNC-ch. If they are split in different conferences, the rivalry may grow moss.

70 works, if distributions are on a sliding scale

not necessarily merit-based, but certainly unequal. I think that's where we're heading as opposed to adding or expelling teams. Just pay some teams less.ACC may actually be ahead on this one.

I like Tulane

Lots of history. But if I'm a Pac comissioner, I'm not sure they move the needle. Same with ECU, I'm sorry to say. Memphis, USF, and UConn all make sense. I'd rather have UTSA than Texas St., but Texas St. is a bargain.

The average American age is 38.5 years

The relevant time period should be the lifetime of the average American. We can't really relate to things that happened before we were born.

True

If P2 were to expand to 48 and form a new class, we should have a spot. As long as there are 3 tiers in FBS, we will remain 2nd tier.

Basically roll back to 2010, but keep Pitt

Pitt West Virginia VT UVA UNC Duke Wake Forest NC State Clemson Georgia Tech F$U Miami This is part of my 6 x 12 alignment. In it, I actually have South Carolina instead of GT, but you said only ACC and XII teams. Maintaining longstanding rivalries is the primary focus.

The timing truly is awful

Always reactive, never anticipating the competition"s next move.

ln all the hypothetical alignments

that I have mocked up over the years, WVU is always in the ACC. Cincinnati and Louisville should always be together, not necessarily in the ACC though. I don't really care about UCF, but I suppose they are too big to ignore.

The money is the problem

Most rivalries, the lifeblood of college football, were given life through conference affiliations. Conferences also make scheduling easier and more consistent. The problem with conferences is how media deals are negotiated and revenue is distributed. The fact that these deals are made by conference instead of individual members leads to the inequity of Vanderbilt and Rutgers making 2-3 times what FSU does. My proposal is for the NCAA, or its successor, make the media deals, as they did in the past. But now, distribute the money based on A) Viewership and B) Performance. Under my proposal, schools like Ohio St and Notee Dame would earn the most having had success on the field and high TV ratings. FSU would be in the middle of the pack, having had a horrendous season but still solid ratings. SMU would be on par with FSU with the opposite results of a good season that no one watched. Wake Fores would earn the least since they won few games and no one cared. When you dive into the numbers, schools like Clemson, whose current media rights are undervalued, would get a bump in revenue, by redistributing the revenue from overvalued schools like Northwestern and Mississippi St. Make this fundamental change and conference expansion would stop. FSU and Clemson's grievances would melt away. We could even see a return to logical, traditional conferences.

AAC is currently at 10M

New Pac will be better than the AAC, so I expect 12-15M. 15M if they can land Memphis, Tulane, USF. 12M if not.

The flip side of this is Marshall is now an attractive option for players

in the portal wanting playing time. Those players will be eager to prove their mettle. Marshall will probably take a step back, but they might find some gems.

That certainly would be a great conference

I'm not sure we would have achived the heights that we did if not for the path that we took, though. The Big East, whether we like the conference or not, was very good for Hokie football. The ACC has been good for all Hokies. Would the all-sport Metro have been good for us? We'll never know.

How this year's CFP plays out

will have a lot to say about potential changes. If there are massacres in the first round, some people will be proven right and others wrong, depending on the outcomes. Let's play the games and then decide if a tweak is even needed.

They won't divide

They will trim the fat. The question is where will Purdue and Messissippi St go?

Notables left out

Zona Asu Colorado Utah BYU Texas Tech I'm not sure 48 is the magic number. If it is, some current P2 schools should be relegated to make room for schools on this list.

Nor do I

I still haven't gotten over the 2008 Orange Bowl. We were thoroughly and completely outcoached that day.

P4 should breakaway

and play all OOC games within the new classification. Take the NY6 bowls with them for the CFP. Leave the other bowl games for the G6 class.

While I agree with the sentiment

it would backfire spectacularly. Forcing them to schedule even more marquee games is not going to make 11-1 TCU vs 10-2 Pitt any more exciting. A Texas-Michigan regular season game will get better ratings than a championship game in the next tier, no matter who plays in it. We have no leverage with football until our on field product improves and more of our fans watch the games. Shutting them out of March Madness is our bargaining chip. With the basketball-first/only schools and conferences, we have the numbers.

My how the narrative has changed

We have gone from promoting our bona fides for belonging in the P2 to hoping for help. This is what losing to SEC's worst team (Vanderbilt) and B1G's worst team (Rutgers) gets you. It's making me sick.

I can see that working

and a nice compliment to Gonzaga basketball only. Both sports would have the required 8 teams.

The thing about Uconn

you aren't getting WBB or MBB, just football. UCONN football. I'd rather have App St. or even Troy than UCONN football.

At this point, for the Pac to do this on the cheap

they need 4 MORE from the MWC. They need 9 votes to dissolve and currently have 5 of them. No poaching penalties, no exit fees. The downside is the zombie Pac would only be modestly better than the old MWC and current AAC. It looks like they are going to have to take at least one more from the MWC anyway unless NMSU or UTEP from Cusa shows a bit of leg. There's always the possibility UConn moves for football, but I wouldn't bet on it.

If I were to build a team from scratch

I start with a solid linebacker corps and good offensive line. These are our weak areas. We have NFL talent in the other areas QB, RB, CB, DL. OL is beat up and never was deep. I'm very disappointed in LB reads and angles . Some of this is coaching, but I still believe in Pry. That "soft middle" needs to tighten up. ** Edited by obguthr at 9/22/2024, 9:55:30 AM

I have little connection with SMU-TCU

other than having lived in TX briefly in 96-97, but that game was a big deal when I was a kid. I'm stoked that the ACC is now a part of it. The XII-ACC are now rival conferences and these schools are the standard bearers in the rivalry. Pony Up!

The answer is never

P2 will not allow such a thing, nor will their media overlords.

For the AAC it's a lateral move

Currently, the AAC media deal is higher than MWC. The new Pac should be worth more, but it may not be enough to justify the move. I'm just not sure anyone like Memphis or Tulane would jump. If the Pac still had power status, this would be an entirely different conversation.

I think that is the core group

to hopefully entice soneone from the AAC to defect. It won't work, but it's worth the attempt. They always have UNLV, Air Force and others to fall back on. I also think they don't go too big. Should the ACC collapse, they could snag a BC or even Syracuse.

Believable

except Duke to SEC. I would be very shocked. SEC does not want them at all, nor do they want to go that deep in NC . I'm also skeptical, yet hopeful, about FSU, Miami, and VT to B1G. It makes sense, but I think we and the Noles would need AAU invites to make the university muckety mucks look good.

Quite a few better than Wazzu, none better than Oregon State

A lot of people don't realize how small and struggling the Coogs are. The Pac-12 war chest should help, but they need to use their share of it wisely.

Calford will not be that bad

In fact, our game with Stanford is a trap, IMO. We'll be favored and every Hokie knows how that goes. I'm seeing ghosts of Temple, JMU, ODU, Liberty. We better not be complacent.

Unless it was the bottom three, I would say no

I think you might be suggesting a trio of Louisville, Pitt, GT. In that case, those teams make more sense in a breakaway conference, since it requires 8 teams minimum per NCAA, and 10 votes to dissolve.