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Conference Realignment Board
6 mo ago
24 team field is a 5 week playoff
6 weeks if you count a MNC prep week. That's crazy. I'd be ok with eliminating CCGs, if everyone played a round robin conference schedule, but that isn't possible with the current alignment. Since CCGs are somewhat necessary, there really should be no more than 16 teams.
Football Board
7 mo ago
Division I should formally split into 3 distinct divisions for football
FBS (current G5) may play SPS (Semi-pro subdivision, current P4) and FCS. No games allowed between SPS and FCS. All three have their own championship with FBS going back to a Bowl +1 championship. SPS would have a 12-16 team playoff. FCS would continue with a 24 team playoff.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
I'm game
Make the 3 Boise St., Oregon St., and Memphis (formerly St.) Every team plays 1 from each of the other divisions. Four team playoff of division champs to determine conference champ.
The divisions would resemble Pac +Boise and BYU, XII + SMU, Big East + UVA, ACC
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
I understand the sentiment, but such a bill is unenforceable
Suppose whatever conference(s) they are in adopts a schedule that does not accomodate the teams playing every year. Is the conference bound by this legislation?
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Although Dook is a more valuable brand,
I think they are in worse position than us. Being small in this day and age is a real impediment. Football viewership is low and political forces are against them. Their best asset basketball, has a strange symbiotic relationship with UNC-ch. If they are split in different conferences, the rivalry may grow moss.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
70 works, if distributions are on a sliding scale
not necessarily merit-based, but certainly unequal. I think that's where we're heading as opposed to adding or expelling teams. Just pay some teams less.ACC may actually be ahead on this one.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
I like Tulane
Lots of history. But if I'm a Pac comissioner, I'm not sure they move the needle. Same with ECU, I'm sorry to say. Memphis, USF, and UConn all make sense. I'd rather have UTSA than Texas St., but Texas St. is a bargain.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
The average American age is 38.5 years
The relevant time period should be the lifetime of the average American. We can't really relate to things that happened before we were born.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
True
If P2 were to expand to 48 and form a new class, we should have a spot. As long as there are 3 tiers in FBS, we will remain 2nd tier.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Basically roll back to 2010, but keep Pitt
Pitt
West Virginia
VT
UVA
UNC
Duke
Wake Forest
NC State
Clemson
Georgia Tech
F$U
Miami
This is part of my 6 x 12 alignment. In it, I actually have South Carolina instead of GT, but you said only ACC and XII teams. Maintaining longstanding rivalries is the primary focus.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
ln all the hypothetical alignments
that I have mocked up over the years, WVU is always in the ACC. Cincinnati and Louisville should always be together, not necessarily in the ACC though. I don't really care about UCF, but I suppose they are too big to ignore.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
The money is the problem
Most rivalries, the lifeblood of college football, were given life through conference affiliations. Conferences also make scheduling easier and more consistent.
The problem with conferences is how media deals are negotiated and revenue is distributed. The fact that these deals are made by conference instead of individual members leads to the inequity of Vanderbilt and Rutgers making 2-3 times what FSU does.
My proposal is for the NCAA, or its successor, make the media deals, as they did in the past. But now, distribute the money based on A) Viewership and B) Performance. Under my proposal, schools like Ohio St and Notee Dame would earn the most having had success on the field and high TV ratings. FSU would be in the middle of the pack, having had a horrendous season but still solid ratings. SMU would be on par with FSU with the opposite results of a good season that no one watched. Wake Fores would earn the least since they won few games and no one cared. When you dive into the numbers, schools like Clemson, whose current media rights are undervalued, would get a bump in revenue, by redistributing the revenue from overvalued schools like Northwestern and Mississippi St.
Make this fundamental change and conference expansion would stop. FSU and Clemson's grievances would melt away. We could even see a return to logical, traditional conferences.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
AAC is currently at 10M
New Pac will be better than the AAC, so I expect 12-15M. 15M if they can land Memphis, Tulane, USF. 12M if not.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
The flip side of this is Marshall is now an attractive option for players
in the portal wanting playing time. Those players will be eager to prove their mettle. Marshall will probably take a step back, but they might find some gems.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
That certainly would be a great conference
I'm not sure we would have achived the heights that we did if not for the path that we took, though. The Big East, whether we like the conference or not, was very good for Hokie football. The ACC has been good for all Hokies. Would the all-sport Metro have been good for us? We'll never know.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
How this year's CFP plays out
will have a lot to say about potential changes. If there are massacres in the first round, some people will be proven right and others wrong, depending on the outcomes. Let's play the games and then decide if a tweak is even needed.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Notables left out
Zona
Asu
Colorado
Utah
BYU
Texas Tech
I'm not sure 48 is the magic number. If it is, some current P2 schools should be relegated to make room for schools on this list.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Nor do I
I still haven't gotten over the 2008 Orange Bowl. We were thoroughly and completely outcoached that day.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
P4 should breakaway
and play all OOC games within the new classification. Take the NY6 bowls with them for the CFP. Leave the other bowl games for the G6 class.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
While I agree with the sentiment
it would backfire spectacularly. Forcing them to schedule even more marquee games is not going to make 11-1 TCU vs 10-2 Pitt any more exciting. A Texas-Michigan regular season game will get better ratings than a championship game in the next tier, no matter who plays in it.
We have no leverage with football until our on field product improves and more of our fans watch the games. Shutting them out of March Madness is our bargaining chip. With the basketball-first/only schools and conferences, we have the numbers.
Football Board
1 y ago
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
My how the narrative has changed
We have gone from promoting our bona fides for belonging in the P2 to hoping for help. This is what losing to SEC's worst team (Vanderbilt) and B1G's worst team (Rutgers) gets you. It's making me sick.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
I can see that working
and a nice compliment to Gonzaga basketball only. Both sports would have the required 8 teams.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
The thing about Uconn
you aren't getting WBB or MBB, just football. UCONN football. I'd rather have App St. or even Troy than UCONN football.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
At this point, for the Pac to do this on the cheap
they need 4 MORE from the MWC. They need 9 votes to dissolve and currently have 5 of them. No poaching penalties, no exit fees. The downside is the zombie Pac would only be modestly better than the old MWC and current AAC. It looks like they are going to have to take at least one more from the MWC anyway unless NMSU or UTEP from Cusa shows a bit of leg. There's always the possibility UConn moves for football, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Football Board
1 y ago
If I were to build a team from scratch
I start with a solid linebacker corps and good offensive line. These are our weak areas. We have NFL talent in the other areas QB, RB, CB, DL. OL is beat up and never was deep. I'm very disappointed in LB reads and angles . Some of this is coaching, but I still believe in Pry. That "soft middle" needs to tighten up.
** Edited by obguthr at 9/22/2024, 9:55:30 AM
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
I have little connection with SMU-TCU
other than having lived in TX briefly in 96-97, but that game was a big deal when I was a kid. I'm stoked that the ACC is now a part of it. The XII-ACC are now rival conferences and these schools are the standard bearers in the rivalry. Pony Up!
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
I've got to believe the networks are hiring smart folks like CobbCounty
to take these very things into consideration in their analysis.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
For the AAC it's a lateral move
Currently, the AAC media deal is higher than MWC. The new Pac should be worth more, but it may not be enough to justify the move. I'm just not sure anyone like Memphis or Tulane would jump. If the Pac still had power status, this would be an entirely different conversation.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
I think that is the core group
to hopefully entice soneone from the AAC to defect. It won't work, but it's worth the attempt. They always have UNLV, Air Force and others to fall back on. I also think they don't go too big. Should the ACC collapse, they could snag a BC or even Syracuse.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Believable
except Duke to SEC. I would be very shocked. SEC does not want them at all, nor do they want to go that deep in NC .
I'm also skeptical, yet hopeful, about FSU, Miami, and VT to B1G. It makes sense, but I think we and the Noles would need AAU invites to make the university muckety mucks look good.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Quite a few better than Wazzu, none better than Oregon State
A lot of people don't realize how small and struggling the Coogs are. The Pac-12 war chest should help, but they need to use their share of it wisely.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Calford will not be that bad
In fact, our game with Stanford is a trap, IMO. We'll be favored and every Hokie knows how that goes. I'm seeing ghosts of Temple, JMU, ODU, Liberty. We better not be complacent.
Conference Realignment Board
1 y ago
Unless it was the bottom three, I would say no
I think you might be suggesting a trio of Louisville, Pitt, GT. In that case, those teams make more sense in a breakaway conference, since it requires 8 teams minimum per NCAA, and 10 votes to dissolve.
Conference Realignment Board
2 y ago
It's going to be hard to win OOC in the conference with
The Toughest Non-Conference Schedule In The Country lol