Every conference outside the SEC and B1G should leave them. Cut bait.
They’re not inviting 12-24 more teams because the schools will lose a ton of money in revenue sharing.
Don’t schedule them in football especially or honestly any sports. All other conferences have inventory. The SEC and B1G have 33 possible opponents if everybody else leaves them.
Host our own 64 team basketball tournament that the “P2” absolutely cannot host with 34 teams.
Host a 16 team football playoff with teams that are 11-1 and 10-2 while they have 7-5 Missouri playing 8-4 Iowa in a first round game. WOW, ratings material right there. Can’t wait to watch that game…
Host our own baseball, soccer, softball, you name it tournaments.
Eff them in the a and make them come back to us.
It will never happen but it absolutely would work. Their money advantage only works while they can buy wins against the poor. Take that away from them.
** Edited by hokieZ71 at 10/10/2024, 7:00:08 PM
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G5 or other conferences good in Olympic sports a healthy payout to join their empire for scheduling and Olympic post season tournaments? I bet they would. They would keep adding conferences and payouts. The Big 12 and ACC would then have to cave in. Then the P2 would stop with those healthy payouts. Total monopoly.
** Edited by HouClone at 10/11/2024, 5:00:50 PM
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They would have their own everything (and so would we)? Maybe we are about to find out?
But we should not force that, IMO. But nor should we just wait around for it.
I'd like to try getting the NCAA to set up some post season tournament to run side-by-side the CFP that could eventually challenge the CFP for dominance. Who cares how much money it makes at first? Just the fact of an NCAA challenge to the CFP is powerful, IMO. Force the CFP into the weaker moral position. Basically, fight the NCAA BB tourney vs the NIT fight all over again.
** Edited by Truthahn at 10/11/2024, 12:30:31 PM
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they are kicking around PE.
The P2 is nothing without the rest of college football.
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as so many envision.
They are the big fish in the big sea. Why would they want to become the only fish in the small pond?
SEC and B1G football does not magically become more interesting, and therefore valuable, if they splinter off. Possibly the opposite.
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there was a commercial advertising the OSU Oregon game this Saturday. A well produce commercial with live music, one that you would expect from the NFL. It was on Fox, so they are spending money to promote that game. The thing is, there are a LOT of college football games on Saturday, and while there is no doubt it will get good ratings, it will not be the NFL, and will never be the NFL.
This "breakaway" thing is way premature, and this consolidation of the blue bloods is an experiment that has not played out yet.
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it would backfire spectacularly. Forcing them to schedule even more marquee games is not going to make 11-1 TCU vs 10-2 Pitt any more exciting. A Texas-Michigan regular season game will get better ratings than a championship game in the next tier, no matter who plays in it.
We have no leverage with football until our on field product improves and more of our fans watch the games. Shutting them out of March Madness is our bargaining chip. With the basketball-first/only schools and conferences, we have the numbers.
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It would encourage them to destroy the non-P2.
If I were the P2, I would counter by putting out invites to a few more teams, saying that the split is forcing them to do so. Now they could do it right out in the open.
FSU and Clemson would get formal invites, removing all doubt. The FSU and Clemson lawsuits would get new life, since this change would actually damage them.
ND would sue the ACC to get out. Anyone else invited would also sue to get out, UNC, Miami, etc. Maybe the P2 decides they then need to also "fill in some gaps", so they invite Arizona, Colorado, Utah, UVa, etc.
It would be a train wreck, IMO.
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We are already on bargain contracts and shuttered to poor timeslots. We are currently experiencing a massive revenue shortfall against the P2. And, yes, football-wise that never changes. We will never get the ratings they do...but we already don't get them.
The reason we get $$ to begin with is ESPN and Fox need far more inventory than the SEC and B10 provides. That absolutely does not change our money position if every non-P2 league leaves. So we keep getting the money, we keep getting on TV, and our football playoff would generate enough revenue to keep us in our current financial position, only the relativity to the P2 finances would no longer matter.
Everything you said about Michigan vs Texas is right. But this isn't the NFL. This is college sports. And colleges have loads of sports their alumni are very proud of, especially Michigan and Texas. And the kicker is we can take all of that away from the P2.
** Edited by hokieZ71 at 10/11/2024, 11:02:35 AM
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Biggest driver in ACC revenue is the marque games against teams that produce revenue. Take those away and what little interest there is, goes away.
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