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Coaches have voted on changes
HokieAl • 05/05/26 09:24 PM ET
In other breaking news, kids vote for more snow days **
marcbvtgm • 05/11/26 03:58 PM ET
Not there yet, but it’s 1 step closer, add 76 NCAA 🏀 expanded, I’m startin
Stech • 05/07/26 08:43 PM ET
I love how folks are discussing this as if this vote means these changes
Pylons • 05/07/26 09:07 AM ET
I look at them as a bellwether
HokieAl • 05/07/26 09:53 AM ET
Maybe. What generates revenue will still be the primary driver though. **
Pylons • 05/07/26 10:42 AM ET
They also have the ears of the athletic directors. **
Big12 guy • 05/07/26 10:26 AM ET
They have those without a vote as well **
Pylons • 05/07/26 10:38 PM ET
Coaches would have voted for 48 team playoff. **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/06/26 12:17 PM ET
Only matter of time before a coach regrets his vote because a conference's
VTHokie2000 • 05/05/26 10:37 PM ET
The conference standings won't matter, there would be only 1 autobid for G6 **
BROman Hokie • 05/06/26 09:16 AM ET
Even with an expanded playoff?
EDGEMAN • 05/06/26 10:00 AM ET
I wasn't assuming the complaint would come from a G6 coach though.
VTHokie2000 • 05/06/26 09:31 AM ET
Conferences will adjust if they are smart
HokieAl • 05/06/26 09:46 AM ET
I assume the conferences will come up with some sort of criteria to
VTHokie2000 • 05/06/26 10:09 AM ET
There would be no conference championship games and all 24 teams would be
Femoyer Hokie • 05/06/26 10:44 AM ET
I assumed the P4s would receive 1 automatic bid each and the P6s would
VTHokie2000 • 05/06/26 11:02 AM ET
P6 is guaranteed 1 at large bid **
Femoyer Hokie • 05/06/26 11:11 AM ET
They can call it whatever they want, but functionally it would still act
VTHokie2000 • 05/06/26 11:32 AM ET
There are reports that ESPN
Big12 guy • 05/04/26 02:20 PM ET
also they run the NFL channel now, and NFL is a minority owner of Disney
1947Sunbowl • 05/05/26 10:56 AM ET
ESPN has been doing NFL games since 1987. **
marcbvtgm • 05/04/26 07:05 PM ET
Phrased it wrong. **
Big12 guy • 05/04/26 07:42 PM ET
Not if the NFL is ESPN's pimp. ;-) **
VTHokie2000 • 05/06/26 12:50 PM ET
Monday Night Football has been on Espn for the last decade ? **
Sunsetunderground • 05/04/26 06:59 PM ET
The problem is schools like Utah won't sign the GoR until the B10 finalizes
RandomAsianGuy • 05/04/26 06:08 PM ET
ESPN wanting the NFL back in the fold isn't exactly breaking news
SMU Pony • 05/04/26 04:44 PM ET
I see your points, but if
Big12 guy • 05/04/26 04:56 PM ET
We've discussed separating basketball ad nauseum
SMU Pony • 05/04/26 05:04 PM ET
We have, yet Yormark seems to think it will. I'm with
Big12 guy • 05/04/26 07:44 PM ET
B12 better be careful. If espn doesn’t have any ownership
HokieAl • 05/04/26 03:00 PM ET
The still have their relationship with FOX, but
Big12 guy • 05/04/26 03:03 PM ET
Should the Big XII assume it will get the same level of respect from
VTHokie2000 • 05/04/26 03:10 PM ET
When you have nothing, you have nothing
Big12 guy • 05/04/26 03:23 PM ET
I remember the days when TBS used to broadcast SEC football games in the
VTHokie2000 • 05/04/26 03:32 PM ET
CBS/Paramount+ and TNT both sublicense BigXII MBB games from ESPN.
33laszlo99 • 05/04/26 04:19 PM ET
Right now that relationships appears to only focus on (men's ?) basketball.
VTHokie2000 • 05/04/26 04:31 PM ET
ESPN seems to be cool on Big XII hoops. Fox took 63 games in the most
33laszlo99 • 05/04/26 05:27 PM ET
Since Paramount Skydance owns CBS Entertainment Group, I would be surprised
VTHokie2000 • 05/04/26 07:13 PM ET
Skydance just acquired Warner Bros./Discovery (pending approval)
33laszlo99 • 05/04/26 07:32 PM ET
That is a LOT of windows to fill. **
Big12 guy • 05/04/26 07:48 PM ET
Some of that window could be filled with pro league content. **
VTHokie2000 • 05/04/26 07:50 PM ET
Yes, but TNT's 36 year run with the NBA has ended. **
Big12 guy • 05/04/26 07:51 PM ET
I wasn't thinking just NBA because there are other pro leagues out there.
VTHokie2000 • 05/04/26 07:55 PM ET
The more traditional channels are
Big12 guy • 05/04/26 08:04 PM ET
Given the "success" NBC has had broadcasting EPL games on the traditional
VTHokie2000 • 05/04/26 08:07 PM ET
ESPN delivers enormous amounts of marginal "fluff" that cannot be drawing
33laszlo99 • 05/04/26 09:49 PM ET
The fluff may not move the ratings needle much, but it may be generating
VTHokie2000 • 05/05/26 12:53 AM ET
Agreed, but ratings are ratings, and I do not
Big12 guy • 05/04/26 08:11 PM ET
FWIW I think one of the channels (CBS Sports Network?) is already
VTHokie2000 • 05/04/26 08:22 PM ET
100% **
Big12 guy • 05/04/26 08:32 PM ET
ESPN may need to find some money
Big12 guy • 05/04/26 04:24 PM ET
B1G payout article. $1.4 billion in 24/25/
pine52x • 05/03/26 10:22 AM ET
Logistics is a BS self defeating argument...
Culpeper Hokie • 05/04/26 12:55 PM ET
You make a good argument, but why would a flight to FSU
pine52x • 05/04/26 03:27 PM ET
Madison has a 9,000' runway too...you're not flying to MKE to get to UW
Pylons • 05/04/26 07:35 PM ET
Logistics? **
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/03/26 09:23 PM ET
The logistics of perception that people will always associate VT with
VTHokie2000 • 05/04/26 01:32 PM ET
Is VT different than PSU, Illinois or IU in this regard? **
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/04/26 02:27 PM ET
Yes, with PSU in this regard. Given that PSU has 10-14 satellite campuses
VTHokie2000 • 05/04/26 02:57 PM ET
Happy Valley is in the center of the state, but it's the middle of nowhere
Pylons • 05/04/26 07:38 PM ET
If the Big Ten doesn't think of it as the "middle of nowhere," then it does
VTHokie2000 • 05/04/26 07:57 PM ET
My comment had nothing to do with the Big Ten; just clarifying the reality
Pylons • 05/05/26 12:04 AM ET
The Big Ten cared enough to allow Penn State to join the conference instead
VTHokie2000 • 05/05/26 12:52 AM ET
Logic isn't your specialty I guess
Pylons • 05/05/26 01:20 PM ET
The Big Ten may or may not have cared when it came to Penn State.
VTHokie2000 • 05/05/26 03:29 PM ET
easy to get to and from Blacksburg **
pine52x • 05/04/26 07:46 AM ET
Look @ what Indiana did in 2 years, oh ye of little faith for Virginia Tech
Stech • 05/03/26 07:52 PM ET
Who is the new President and AD? Did not hear the announcement.
pine52x • 05/04/26 08:06 AM ET
List who else is putting 250M into the program?
Stech • 05/04/26 12:22 PM ET
Their numbers are very impressive. But I agree VT has a zero chance.
RandomAsianGuy • 05/03/26 03:15 PM ET
You are right in that followers are important
lord4bid • 05/04/26 02:30 PM ET
I agree logistics has been a big issue for us for years and will continue
Femoyer Hokie • 05/03/26 01:56 PM ET
Normally I subscribe to Mike Wilbon's belief
mancunian • 05/01/26 09:25 AM ET
Nah, only widens the gap more between a few haves and the many have nots
Vippie1 • 05/01/26 03:58 PM ET
Well - streamers are starting to buy just a few college games
The_VT_Rock • 04/30/26 01:57 PM ET
What would streamers pay for a 16 team super league?
mancunian • 05/01/26 09:12 AM ET
I think it will be more likely the blue bloods
Big12 guy • 05/01/26 11:37 AM ET
I wonder what a streamer would pay for Ohio State's football home games?
SMU Pony • 05/01/26 08:40 AM ET
Imagine this scenario with Ohio State and Michigan...
SMU Pony • 05/01/26 09:05 AM ET
USC already tried to do similar, and the Big Ten shot it down.
reestuart • 05/04/26 12:52 PM ET
Add USC and PSU.
Truthahn • 05/07/26 12:29 PM ET
Texas tried that…. **
VT ChemE 1986 • 05/01/26 03:52 PM ET
ND was just ahead of the curve
TerryD • 05/01/26 02:32 PM ET
Isn't this what happened to Texas with their Texas network? The rest of
JM397 • 05/01/26 09:27 AM ET
But its not an entire network where you
mancunian • 05/01/26 10:03 AM ET
The LHN is not an apples to apples comparison
SMU Pony • 05/01/26 07:11 PM ET
The Texas network was more about 3rd tier worth. Not football. **
Big12 guy • 05/01/26 10:41 PM ET
Like it or not, the blue bloods are driving the bus. **
Big12 guy • 05/01/26 08:47 AM ET
I love this.
HouClone • 04/30/26 08:54 PM ET
The ESPN payout to the ACC will be the same regardless, no?
SMU Pony • 04/30/26 08:57 PM ET
The article says "everyone worked together" to get this done.
Truthahn • 05/01/26 12:15 PM ET
Do you think VT should get some of that money? **
Big12 guy • 05/01/26 12:56 PM ET
For bball, espn still wins
HokieAl • 04/30/26 09:19 PM ET
VT is nowhere close to being in a P1. See my thread a few below this **
HokieAl • 04/30/26 08:04 PM ET
You are probably right... **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/01/26 01:31 PM ET
all you are seeing is the back,
1947Sunbowl • 04/30/26 11:19 PM ET
Over $200 million? rotfl. Show the figures!! **
ancient alien 2018 • 05/02/26 10:10 PM ET
What are you talking about? **
HokieAl • 05/01/26 08:47 AM ET
You are only looking back, sure last 15 not good, but that’s irrelevant to
Stech • 04/30/26 08:41 PM ET
Looking back is actual results. Nobody is going to invite VT for potential
HokieAl • 04/30/26 09:15 PM ET
Indiana changed it in 2 years, and I don’t think the P1 is a year away like
Stech • 05/01/26 02:48 AM ET
No I wasn’t saying P1 in a year
HokieAl • 05/01/26 08:46 AM ET
I agree with that, and I agree we have to play our way back into it, and I
Stech • 05/01/26 09:40 AM ET
For AD, I think my lean is an ESPN person
HokieAl • 05/01/26 01:52 PM ET
that the same attitude that keeps states behind
1947Sunbowl • 04/30/26 11:21 PM ET
IMO this is a trail balloon. The third tier rights are greatly undervalued
hokieninsurance • 04/30/26 02:19 PM ET
I don't think it's a trial balloon..if it is, it's a bad one
SMU Pony • 04/30/26 07:38 PM ET
I disagree, as a cord cutter (havent have regular cable in 10 years)
hokieninsurance • 05/01/26 09:50 AM ET
If the CW and/or Amazon wanted a certain percentage of content to include
VTHokie2000 • 04/30/26 03:15 PM ET
If they did, they would let CW or Amazon
Big12 guy • 04/30/26 05:01 PM ET
Yes, they could do that until the current GOR expires. However, is that in
VTHokie2000 • 04/30/26 05:10 PM ET
I guess they could do that, but we know now
Big12 guy • 04/30/26 05:44 PM ET
The only way Amazon and the CW could do that is if ESPN gives them access
VTHokie2000 • 04/30/26 06:26 PM ET
Big 12 takes private equity money **
All4VT • 04/29/26 09:03 PM ET
The line of credit is only $30M, which has to be repaid with interest... **
RandomAsianGuy • 05/01/26 01:30 PM ET
Correct, and the partnership only goes
Big12 guy • 05/01/26 01:42 PM ET
Isn't that Gordon Gecko's new company? Good luck. LOL. **
Truthahn • 05/01/26 12:17 PM ET
I got a phone call from a former client today...
MP4VT2004 • 04/30/26 11:04 PM ET
I manage PE funds, I guess we can agree to disagree **
Lancelot Link • 05/03/26 01:27 PM ET
Yep, they definitely tend to be parasites/termites.
RJHokie • 04/30/26 11:08 PM ET
That’s unfortunate. The sport is now just business **
HokieAl • 04/30/26 07:59 PM ET
Been a business for a150+ years, it’s just above the table now& some prefer
Stech • 04/30/26 08:47 PM ET
What got my attention is the CBS TNT connection. They
Big12 guy • 04/30/26 10:45 AM ET
Who's saying it is for the ISU lifeline?
HouClone • 04/30/26 08:51 PM ET
Mostly people out here that are K-Stater's. You are
Big12 guy • 05/01/26 06:36 AM ET
What would be confusing
Tailgate Guru • 05/02/26 06:08 PM ET
yes **
Big12 guy • 05/03/26 07:19 PM ET
JW: Why College Football Realignment May Be Slowing Down
RandomAsianGuy • 04/29/26 12:18 AM ET
I think the US college industry is going to be on its heals in 5 years
MrBayAreaHokie • 04/30/26 11:06 PM ET
Totally agree....the value of a college degree is about to plummet
SMU Pony • 05/04/26 06:09 PM ET
you DONT ease up on the pedal
1947Sunbowl • 04/29/26 09:19 AM ET
Mr. Williams sees a glass half empty, at best.
33laszlo99 • 04/29/26 08:32 AM ET
I think JW is saying even NFL won't see such high growth. **
RandomAsianGuy • 04/29/26 12:27 PM ET
Still be a p2
MrFantastic! • 04/29/26 06:07 AM ET
NCAA basketball tournament moving to 76 🔗 **
Stech • 04/28/26 09:53 PM ET
Here's the bottom line: most casual watchers will LOVE this, because-
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/29/26 11:38 AM ET
Do casual watchers really watch play-in games? **
marcbvtgm • 05/04/26 07:09 PM ET
Does anyone? **
Baltimore_Hokie • 05/05/26 09:26 AM ET
I think you could include the
Big12 guy • 04/29/26 12:09 PM ET
🫧 ⌚ VT: First Four Out **
Maroon Baboon • 04/29/26 12:44 AM ET
Sad but true... **
EDGEMAN • 04/29/26 06:22 AM ET
At least Hokie fans won't have to worry about whether the VT will accept
VTHokie2000 • 04/29/26 09:50 AM ET
I think the NCAAT will eventually be 128 teams. Basically, the NIT + NCAAT.
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/29/26 11:55 AM ET
I think it will eventually get there too especially if the NCAA wants to
VTHokie2000 • 04/29/26 03:25 PM ET
Maybe that would lead to a separate NIL governing body, bye bye NCAA **
HokieNL • 04/29/26 03:45 PM ET
Except the schools (aka NCAA members) are the ones who created the rule in
VTHokie2000 • 04/29/26 05:22 PM ET
Watch for the tournaments that offer NIL money to the players
Big12 guy • 04/29/26 10:26 AM ET
It could be real competition. However, the NCAA does has a major safeguard
VTHokie2000 • 04/29/26 10:52 AM ET
It would make sense to move that to early in the season...
EDGEMAN • 04/29/26 10:19 AM ET
FWIW it does already exist as the NIT Season Tip-Off. There may not have
VTHokie2000 • 04/29/26 10:35 AM ET
The threads below had me curious, so I mocked up a P1
HokieAl • 04/28/26 12:18 AM ET
That picture convinces me P1 would struggle, it’s a regional fan base, plus
Stech • 04/28/26 10:10 PM ET
Yep, seeing the map view really highlights how concentrated they are
HokieAl • 04/29/26 11:35 AM ET
Given how today's society is a lot more mobile and the younger generation
VTHokie2000 • 04/29/26 03:31 PM ET
My perspective is not as much on where their fans live
HokieAl • 04/29/26 04:43 PM ET
If those fans "gamble" on college sports, then do they feel left out?
VTHokie2000 • 04/29/26 05:32 PM ET
What I find most interesting about the P1 scenario is whether it wants to
VTHokie2000 • 04/28/26 11:01 AM ET
Correct me if I'm wrong. I think the SEC and BIG do not have GORs in place
HokieAl • 04/28/26 11:32 AM ET
B1G does, but it’s about to expire, the SEC doesn’t have one. B1G extension
Stech • 04/28/26 05:02 PM ET
I thought the Big Ten has a GoR **
wwhokie1 • 04/28/26 01:51 PM ET
You are correct since ESPN reported last October that the Big Ten is
VTHokie2000 • 04/28/26 01:59 PM ET
So I did some digging after looking at your link
HokieAl • 04/28/26 02:29 PM ET
Yes, the schools could leave in 2030 since the GOR extension isn't
VTHokie2000 • 04/28/26 02:47 PM ET
I believe you are correct that neither conference has a GOR in place at the
VTHokie2000 • 04/28/26 01:00 PM ET
Media Money isn’t as important as Billionaire Donor Money, time to catch up
Stech • 04/27/26 05:54 PM ET
Franklin choosing VT over SEC types **
MrFantastic! • 04/28/26 01:14 PM ET
are you saying VT has some big Billionaires> Confused **
MrFantastic! • 04/28/26 06:52 AM ET
Confused about what? **
Stech • 04/28/26 08:17 AM ET
Where do we stand donor wise compared to all the others? **
Maroon Baboon • 04/27/26 10:43 PM ET
Its not the untapped donors but the terrible expertise in fund raising
1947Sunbowl • 04/28/26 02:43 PM ET
Plenty of donors to get to the next level, Whit focused on big donors, but
Stech • 04/28/26 08:27 AM ET
Cal is a sleeping giant as well IMO. **
Big12 guy • 04/27/26 07:56 PM ET
Reading all the information below
MrFantastic! • 04/27/26 07:07 AM ET
My prediction
RandomAsianGuy • 04/27/26 01:53 PM ET
Wouldn't UNC be gone? In this scenario **
MrFantastic! • 04/28/26 06:50 AM ET
Yes UNC is likely to leave.
RandomAsianGuy • 04/28/26 01:03 PM ET
i disagree for future
MrFantastic! • 04/28/26 01:12 PM ET
You might be right. I just don't think they will be a "leader"
RandomAsianGuy • 04/28/26 08:44 PM ET
So, you think the B12 contract just expires then? I suppose
Big12 guy • 04/27/26 02:24 PM ET
The ACC didn't need to raid the B12
RandomAsianGuy • 04/27/26 05:39 PM ET
I don't know, even by your math, they are about $5M behind the current
Big12 guy • 04/27/26 06:15 PM ET
$5 million?
RandomAsianGuy • 04/27/26 06:37 PM ET
With great respect, you still have the numbers
Big12 guy • 04/27/26 07:39 PM ET
That's not my post.
RandomAsianGuy • 04/27/26 08:34 PM ET
The old contract was around $25M. The B12 actually
Big12 guy • 04/27/26 08:50 PM ET
Yormark did well but that raise is basically an extension of old contract
RandomAsianGuy • 04/27/26 10:04 PM ET
Separating basketball rights will not be lucrative
SMU Pony • 04/27/26 09:06 PM ET
Agreed. It may or may not bring in more money, but
Big12 guy • 04/27/26 09:12 PM ET
I don't think it's that simple
SMU Pony • 04/28/26 06:39 PM ET
That is why VT is ramping up immediately with funding
1947Sunbowl • 04/27/26 11:56 AM ET
I am not understanding the draw of the P2
VT ChemE 1986 • 04/27/26 10:08 PM ET
If no one leaves the ACC, you're probably correct.
wwhokie1 • 04/28/26 02:08 PM ET
IMO VT has a chance. Perhaps a slim chance but we have a shot.
RandomAsianGuy • 04/27/26 01:35 PM ET
If UConn considers basketball to be its bread and butter, and-
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/27/26 11:52 AM ET
Football centric merger between
mancunian • 04/27/26 03:00 PM ET
That's a good post, but I think the days of conferences as we
Big12 guy • 04/27/26 12:32 PM ET
I honestly don't think you're too far off, if at all, re: the future of CFB **
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/27/26 03:10 PM ET
Why the P2 will not have the same # of teams and what it means for the ACC
RandomAsianGuy • 04/25/26 03:23 PM ET
You say there are no "good reasons" to have symmetry. Well if you look at
VTHokie2000 • 04/27/26 11:31 AM ET
Yes the pros are well balanced. But the colleges are decentralized. Why?
RandomAsianGuy • 04/27/26 01:21 PM ET
Exemption to antitrust laws may or may not be a factor. The reason the
VTHokie2000 • 04/27/26 02:18 PM ET
The college model has not been balanced but you're entitled to your opinion **
RandomAsianGuy • 04/27/26 05:36 PM ET
If you truly believe antitrust exemption is driving the pro leagues'
VTHokie2000 • 04/27/26 07:47 PM ET
Gee. As I said, you are entitled to your opinion.
RandomAsianGuy • 04/27/26 08:28 PM ET
Hokie, the reason you came up with is a "good" reason, but not a critical
33laszlo99 • 04/27/26 12:23 PM ET
Even if the Big Ten were to expand to 23 teams tomorrow, don't be surprised
VTHokie2000 • 04/27/26 02:10 PM ET
So it begins - Holiday Bowl can't find a broadcast partner
PadrosWindup • 04/24/26 07:53 AM ET
Very sad...one of the better upper mid-tier Bowls...what happened to the
Tuckahokie • 04/25/26 07:20 AM ET
Did a little looking around. It appears that
Big12 guy • 04/24/26 01:28 PM ET
How long is the flight from Dulles to KSA? 15 hours?
PadrosWindup • 04/24/26 03:44 PM ET
Amen, not to mention expensive. KU plays
Big12 guy • 04/24/26 04:00 PM ET
To make it worthwhile, the host country will need to pay for everything
PadrosWindup • 04/24/26 04:33 PM ET
Student Visa's and expenses paid? **
Big12 guy • 04/24/26 04:37 PM ET
FWIW a nonstop flight from Dulles to Dubai was about 10-12 hours to there
VTHokie2000 • 04/24/26 03:56 PM ET
After the war stops, a Saudi Arabia ACC bowl game would be interesting.
Truthahn • 04/24/26 01:48 PM ET
When 1 war stops, then how long until the next war begins? It seems like
VTHokie2000 • 04/24/26 03:04 PM ET
I was thinking the same thing. Any Bowl game
Big12 guy • 04/24/26 01:55 PM ET
The '79 Holiday Bowl solidified my love for College Ball. **
Big12 guy • 04/24/26 08:42 AM ET
Historically, it has been a great game in a great city.
Maroon Baboon • 04/24/26 09:52 AM ET
Start everyone, week earlier with OOC Rivalry games. If it’s a neutral site
Stech • 04/24/26 08:29 AM ET
The pro sports want it all.
RJHokie • 04/24/26 08:00 AM ET
Why is White House Commitee leaning towards 24 team playoff
harlote101 • 04/22/26 09:56 AM ET
A 6-5 Big 10/SEC team winning the last game edging into the playoff - awful **
HouClone • 04/23/26 05:48 PM ET
Or a 3 loss team getting into a 12 team playoff?- awful **
Big12 guy • 04/23/26 08:35 PM ET
Why would anyone care about a WH Committee on the CFP?
reestuart • 04/23/26 09:49 AM ET
IMHO, 🦊 B1G wants to kill 🐭SEC’s attempt to create a break away P1 Conf
Stech • 04/22/26 07:33 PM ET
I never looked at it from that angle, and
Big12 guy • 04/22/26 07:37 PM ET
USC and Michigan not signing GOR for a reason, they are P1 candidates IMHO
Stech • 04/22/26 07:52 PM ET
Private equity was front and center for their refusal
Big12 guy • 04/22/26 08:12 PM ET
Agree it’s coming but they think they can get a bigger one from P1, so GOR
Stech • 04/22/26 08:22 PM ET
I'm not sold on the P1 idea, but know it's a possibility. **
Big12 guy • 04/22/26 08:26 PM ET
I don’t want it and I don’t know if it’s happening, but listen to Saban on
Stech • 04/22/26 10:50 PM ET
The ones in bed with Fox, just like the folks in the White House **
Tailgate Guru • 04/22/26 12:41 PM ET
Hmmm…are you possibly politically slithering about? **
HOKIEGOBBLE • 04/23/26 08:41 AM ET
Political slithering alert **
HOKIEGOBBLE • 04/23/26 08:39 AM ET
indeed
Vippie1 • 04/22/26 03:41 PM ET
Another possible politically slithering remark? 🤣
HOKIEGOBBLE • 04/23/26 08:42 AM ET
Everyone is at 9 conference games now in P4
HokieAl • 04/22/26 12:31 PM ET
To me the best part of a "24 bracket" is that 16 teams get a playoff game
33laszlo99 • 04/22/26 04:49 PM ET
100%, and 24 spots means that 32 teams
Big12 guy • 04/22/26 07:40 PM ET
Even if the final product ends up being 20 bids for the P2s, 2 bids for the
VTHokie2000 • 04/23/26 10:54 AM ET
you are saying that you think
Big12 guy • 04/23/26 11:07 AM ET
I am saying that even in the expanded playoffs that there is no guarantee
VTHokie2000 • 04/23/26 11:24 AM ET
OK, so living in Kansas, K-State, like VT, had some
Big12 guy • 04/23/26 11:48 AM ET
The list of schools in the "club" or not in the "club" has not really
VTHokie2000 • 04/23/26 12:09 PM ET
Have you ever heard of the D1 NCAA men's basketball tournament?
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/22/26 12:19 PM ET
Devil's in the details. What even does a 24-team playoff mean?
Maroon Baboon • 04/22/26 11:12 AM ET
And we care about a meaningless WH committee because....? **
VT ChemE 1986 • 04/22/26 11:07 AM ET
"Meaningless " WH committee in normal times
Vippie1 • 04/22/26 03:49 PM ET
Boy, you sure are making this into politics board, aren’t you?
HOKIEGOBBLE • 04/23/26 08:44 AM ET
Because it is a precursor for possible anti trust legislation. **
Big12 guy • 04/22/26 11:12 AM ET
Doubt it. Everything the WH does is meaningless. Just hot air. **
VT ChemE 1986 • 04/22/26 11:23 AM ET
Bingo looks like the herding affect… more politics **
HOKIEGOBBLE • 04/23/26 08:46 AM ET
If I am hurting your feelings your skin is WAY to thin. **
VT ChemE 1986 • 04/23/26 11:05 AM ET
No thin skin… I just don’t like being called out by others when I waiver
HOKIEGOBBLE • 04/23/26 12:31 PM ET
Do realize that driving in the middle of the road, ticks both sides off 😊 **
HokieNL • 04/23/26 12:49 PM ET
🤣
HOKIEGOBBLE • 04/23/26 09:02 PM ET
Then I guess you have a preconceived bias. **
Big12 guy • 04/22/26 11:24 AM ET
No, I actually understand the law
VT ChemE 1986 • 04/22/26 11:36 AM ET
Agreed. The President is merely the manager of the Executive Branch
TerryD • 04/22/26 12:38 PM ET
They are the ones that sign the bills into laws. They do have influence. **
Big12 guy • 04/22/26 11:38 AM ET
Again, when a bill actually lands on their desk give me a call
VT ChemE 1986 • 04/22/26 11:44 AM ET
But you’re doing it anyway, aren’t you?
HOKIEGOBBLE • 04/23/26 08:47 AM ET
Your political stripes are showing. Reread my texts…
VT ChemE 1986 • 04/23/26 11:03 AM ET
Don’t be silly I’m about as straight down the middle as they can be.
HOKIEGOBBLE • 04/23/26 12:28 PM ET
See link inside to resolve argument.
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/22/26 12:25 PM ET
Ha ha ha. Got to love a social studies conversation **
VT ChemE 1986 • 04/22/26 12:41 PM ET
FSU AD: the next 24 months are very important.
RandomAsianGuy • 04/20/26 07:58 PM ET
FSU threatening to close the strait again?
Truthahn • 04/24/26 01:50 PM ET
The SEC and Big 10 are already too big. The next major earthquake in-
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/22/26 12:16 PM ET
I thought Indiana was the chaff just two years ago thought.
Maroon Baboon • 04/23/26 02:46 AM ET
You're not wrong, philosophically anyway. But, Fox/Disney would say you-
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/23/26 09:56 AM ET
It's almost as if they say these things to string along their fans and to
Maroon Baboon • 04/20/26 10:37 PM ET
The AD basically saying **** the ACC publicly is newsworthy. **
Athens • 04/21/26 11:33 PM ET
They've been saying **** the ACC for the last three years.
Maroon Baboon • 04/21/26 11:53 PM ET
I have no confidence in Norvell. I would rather take James Franklin. **
RandomAsianGuy • 04/22/26 12:11 PM ET
FSU is the thank you for unanswered prayers girl from a long time ago **
OrlandoHokie • 04/20/26 09:21 PM ET
For anyone interested in digging through some data I'm sharing part of mine
HokieAl • 04/17/26 10:18 AM ET
Interesting article on "NFL Lite" and Fox's
Big12 guy • 04/17/26 09:27 AM ET
"Defied all sense in search of dollars and cents by acquiring Maryland...
Maroon Baboon • 04/17/26 09:50 AM ET
Sad and stupid...
SMU Pony • 04/17/26 08:59 PM ET
NBC to offload 2026 Big Ten Championship game
RandomAsianGuy • 04/07/26 08:45 PM ET
They're just looking ahead. The conf. championship games are otw out.
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/10/26 12:00 PM ET
Did NBC "dump" the championship
Big12 guy • 04/07/26 10:32 PM ET
sounds like when Directv sold themselves to AT&T
MrBayAreaHokie • 04/12/26 04:49 PM ET
Disney has a new CEO. It will be interesting
Big12 guy • 04/13/26 07:27 AM ET
certainly could be...
MrBayAreaHokie • 04/13/26 09:52 AM ET
That's the point. NBC wants a better ROI.
RandomAsianGuy • 04/07/26 11:34 PM ET
Sold to Fox, so probably more/better choice of regular season games. **
reestuart • 04/08/26 11:39 AM ET
IMO almost every sports media business decision ties back indirectly
Vippie1 • 04/08/26 09:16 AM ET
And just wait until more people like me stop watching CFB entirely.
MP4VT2004 • 04/08/26 05:32 PM ET
Given how the sports gambling rules are currently written in the various
VTHokie2000 • 04/09/26 08:26 AM ET
That's certainly possible. For all we know, Vegas may start directly...
MP4VT2004 • 04/09/26 08:43 AM ET
I'm pretty sure that every network either has its own sports betting app or
VTHokie2000 • 04/09/26 09:15 AM ET
IMO, depending on ACC media money to fund your athletic department is a
manassashoo • 04/06/26 10:36 AM ET
ol Swafford, the Douche that keeps giving til 2036. **
VT Pez4Life • 04/08/26 02:19 PM ET
He waited too late but all the schools voted yea on the deal **
ancient alien 2018 • 04/08/26 10:34 PM ET
Groupthink
CMU Hokie • 04/15/26 08:14 PM ET
I agree, athletic depts need to change
1947Sunbowl • 04/07/26 11:46 AM ET
Not sure if everyone saw my money chart post from last week
HokieAl • 04/06/26 04:46 PM ET
There's zero ability to be competitive when Vanderbilt and Miss. State-
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/06/26 10:56 AM ET
True, but you have to put in the effort to secure independent funding or
manassashoo • 04/06/26 12:23 PM ET
There's that magic word that the HC lack,...effort. **
saret • 04/08/26 11:49 AM ET
The bottom line is that it makes it impossible for ACC teams to "outbid"-
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/06/26 01:28 PM ET
VT needs to "sweet-talk" Bill, Elon or Jeff...or all three! **
EDGEMAN • 04/07/26 10:55 AM ET
Many folks dont realize VT DOES have some very succesful business people
1947Sunbowl • 04/13/26 11:08 AM ET
I agree they have ....
2hhoop3 • 04/06/26 11:11 AM ET
That's how much more they each get paid on their media deal vs. ACC teams.
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/06/26 01:06 PM ET
According to tax returns and......
2hhoop3 • 04/06/26 01:16 PM ET
I've seen different numbers, but does it matter? 20 million? 30 million?
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/06/26 01:45 PM ET
Agree with that.....
2hhoop3 • 04/06/26 01:56 PM ET
I do think there will be a "crisis" situation involving the ACC sometime-
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/06/26 02:02 PM ET
Agree. Big ? How, and Who makes the decision to tell 6-7ACC teams to go
ancient alien 2018 • 04/08/26 10:18 PM ET
I'm starting to suspect more and more that the next seismic shift will be-
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/09/26 10:31 AM ET
I’d be cool with this scenario. Call it the Big Country Conference.
mancunian • 04/12/26 08:17 PM ET
I think there will be a shift as well, but i have a different take.
Big12 guy • 04/09/26 11:19 AM ET
What if ratings is an outdated way of negotiating future media contracts
VTHokie2000 • 04/09/26 11:53 AM ET
You have a REALLY good point about the gambling
Big12 guy • 04/09/26 12:00 PM ET
In Virginia, there are like 20 sports gambling apps available.
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/09/26 12:14 PM ET
Why I think the so call bubble may not pop for college athletics because
VTHokie2000 • 04/09/26 12:17 PM ET
Each network either has their own app or they are affiliated with an
VTHokie2000 • 04/09/26 12:08 PM ET
My only problem with that is basketball is such a small piece of the pie.
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/09/26 11:30 AM ET
The money will land where it does, and it
Big12 guy • 04/09/26 11:49 AM ET
Re: forming a new conference - The Big East did it in the late 70's.
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/09/26 12:09 PM ET
The BE could have......
2hhoop3 • 04/09/26 01:08 PM ET
I couldn't agree with you more on all points. **
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/09/26 01:09 PM ET
i think it's time to separate football from
Big12 guy • 04/09/26 12:14 PM ET
The conference paradigm will never die while the SEC and Big 10 are-
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/09/26 12:16 PM ET
Like you stated, the time
Big12 guy • 04/09/26 12:26 PM ET
FWIW there are examples of football only conferences at the DI level, so it
VTHokie2000 • 04/09/26 12:05 PM ET
How much gambling activity did the UCLA vs. Rutgers game generate for all
VTHokie2000 • 04/09/26 10:37 AM ET
The vast majority of gambling activity is by casuals/squares, and it-
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/09/26 10:49 AM ET
I never said there was a connection between sports gambling and viewership
VTHokie2000 • 04/09/26 11:18 AM ET
I think the next.......
2hhoop3 • 04/06/26 02:09 PM ET
My prediction is that fan engagement is going to start waning at some point
MP4VT2004 • 04/07/26 08:30 PM ET
Nothing Disney/FOX/etc. does is for the benefit of actual CFB fans.
Baltimore_Hokie • 04/08/26 11:32 AM ET
ESPN was a good......
2hhoop3 • 04/08/26 11:45 AM ET
One last post before vacation. TV viewership summary by day and channel
HokieAl • 04/03/26 11:14 PM ET
I couldn't resist. I did a deep dive on James Franklin
HokieAl • 04/03/26 12:14 AM ET
Some new reading. ACC revenue distribution based on known tv viewership
HokieAl • 04/01/26 11:24 PM ET
That blows! But sucking for a decade will do that to your bottom line. **
EDGEMAN • 04/02/26 07:08 PM ET
AI says that the ACC distributes
Big12 guy • 03/31/26 03:49 PM ET
Why do you care Mr. Big12 guy?
EDGEMAN • 04/01/26 02:32 PM ET
I spent 15 years of my life on the
Big12 guy • 04/02/26 06:59 AM ET
We know the numbers, and we plan to be top
1947Sunbowl • 03/31/26 11:10 PM ET
holy crap
ancient alien 2018 • 04/08/26 10:30 PM ET
7-0. Hysterical. **
drb • 04/02/26 02:30 PM ET
dry psu lacky insane like your senator **
1947Sunbowl • 04/02/26 03:47 PM ET
-4872 Please, no politics. You ruined a good discussion. **
ancient alien 2018 • 04/08/26 10:32 PM ET
In other words, ask us next year. **
Stech • 04/01/26 01:06 PM ET
More like 5 years from now after all the money has been spent. **
VTHokie2000 • 04/01/26 01:59 PM ET
Need to show big progress in 26-27! Don’t have 5 years to wait, UVA turned
Stech • 04/02/26 12:03 PM ET
I don't disagree. I am just not sure big changes will occur until Sands
VTHokie2000 • 04/02/26 12:08 PM ET
Athletic Department, I agree until Whit is gone & probably doesn’t happen
Stech • 04/02/26 02:45 PM ET
Even though Franklin is the boss of football, is this solution sustainable
VTHokie2000 • 04/02/26 03:20 PM ET
If it uses ACCN data then we have no clue
HokieAl • 03/31/26 07:53 PM ET
A five year average doesn't bode well, but VT has
Big12 guy • 03/31/26 08:31 PM ET
Its not history, the newest rankling from sports business
1947Sunbowl • 04/01/26 12:10 PM ET
WRT Nebraska, do you think they would have been able to continue the
VTHokie2000 • 04/01/26 11:51 AM ET
good questions. Nebraska OWNED recruiting
Big12 guy • 04/02/26 07:13 AM ET
Nebraska did own the recruiting in part (I think) because Osborne took
VTHokie2000 • 04/02/26 08:41 AM ET
Don't count out Nebraska football moving forward. They
Big12 guy • 04/02/26 09:15 AM ET
My mother's friend, who she grew up with, is married to a Cornhusker fan
VTHokie2000 • 04/02/26 10:55 AM ET
It could be a discussion, as the BIG and SEC will continue
Big12 guy • 04/02/26 11:22 AM ET
I agree Kansas could still make a run to the Final Four as a #3 or #4 seed
VTHokie2000 • 04/02/26 12:15 PM ET
While we wait to see if our hope pays off, here is a deep dive for the B12
HokieAl • 03/31/26 11:01 PM ET
can you do a deep dive into
Big12 guy • 03/31/26 11:26 PM ET
Sure that can be pulled together
HokieAl • 04/01/26 08:37 AM ET
Putting this here for reference later
HokieAl • 04/01/26 12:18 PM ET
Conference comparison for OOC games
HokieAl • 03/31/26 10:52 AM ET
and FYI, this is all still very surface level. I can dive down a lot
HokieAl • 03/31/26 12:44 PM ET
The current setup with ND is not bad.
RandomAsianGuy • 03/28/26 03:47 PM ET
I look at conferences like neighborhoods….
Calamitous • 04/04/26 07:13 AM ET
Pretty cool summary. **
RandomAsianGuy • 04/04/26 12:59 PM ET
With 17 teams in the ACC, it’s inconsequential. **
Stech • 03/30/26 12:30 PM ET
June 30, 2036 can't come soon enough for all parties involved.
VTHokie2000 • 03/30/26 12:09 PM ET
That's why I am very skeptical of 5/6 game arrangement between ND and SEC.
RandomAsianGuy • 03/30/26 02:01 PM ET
I guess it is possible an arrangement could be formed between them.
VTHokie2000 • 03/30/26 03:09 PM ET
I think a lot of the complaints come from fans who believe if Notre Dame
wwhokie1 • 03/30/26 10:18 AM ET
It is great for the ACC. No doubt. **
goldendomer • 03/30/26 01:59 AM ET
LOL you are a funny man!! 🤣 **
Stech • 03/31/26 07:32 AM ET
Fair to good, no doubt.
HOKIEGOBBLE • 03/30/26 01:46 PM ET
ND has never been in a bad situation.
MrFantastic! • 03/30/26 01:07 PM ET
Conferences are so bastardized, I don't even care anymore. I just root for
Maroon Baboon • 03/29/26 12:56 AM ET
I think most people are fine with the status quo, as long as they
VT ChemE 1986 • 03/28/26 06:34 PM ET
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