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Re: forming a new conference - The Big East did it in the late 70's.

They did it in response to an existential crisis, not so different from what these football programs are going through now. Now, just like then, outside forces are conspiring to permanently relegate these programs to the dust heap for no reason other than they aren't a member of the country club. There are differences in the situations (the schools that formed the Big East were focused on basketball instead of football competition, and were all independents at the time,) but not many. The conference was not formed because all those schools wanted to associate, but because they felt they had to do it or face permanent irrelevancy under the status quo. Everyone at the time considered the Big East to be an insane idea that would never work too. "Nobody will give a crap about this conference they just made up out of whole cloth!" "Where are they going to get a media deal; nobody will broadcast that crap!" "It won't last five years!" It went on to become the most successful and lucrative basketball conference in the country at its zenith, with media rights deals at the time that rivaled or bested the SEC, Big 10, Pac 12, Big 8, and ACC. And, just like what I expect we will eventually see happen with the Big 10 and SEC, because it happens to every capitalist project that expects unfettered growth year over year eventually, the original Big East conference died because it got away from its original mission and started trying to conflate its strategy for basketball success with football success, which are two very different beasts. That notwithstanding, I think the time is ripe for a major outside the box move. There are proud, successful football programs that are valuable brands with big fanbases that are currently being relegated not because they are bad, but because they aren't in the country club, and the programs that are want to shut them out permanently. That's an untenable position to be in.
Posted: 04/09/2026 at 12:09 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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IMO, depending on ACC media money to fund your athletic department is a
manassashoo 04/06/26 10:36 AM ET
ol Swafford, the Douche that keeps giving til 2036. **
VT Pez4Life 04/08/26 02:19 PM ET
He waited too late but all the schools voted yea on the deal**
ancient alien 2018 04/08/26 10:34 PM ET
Groupthink
CMU Hokie 04/15/26 08:14 PM ET
I agree, athletic depts need to change
1947Sunbowl 04/07/26 11:46 AM ET
Not sure if everyone saw my money chart post from last week
HokieAl 04/06/26 04:46 PM ET
There's zero ability to be competitive when Vanderbilt and Miss. State-
Baltimore_Hokie 04/06/26 10:56 AM ET
True, but you have to put in the effort to secure independent funding or
manassashoo 04/06/26 12:23 PM ET
There's that magic word that the HC lack,...effort.**
saret 04/08/26 11:49 AM ET
The bottom line is that it makes it impossible for ACC teams to "outbid"-
Baltimore_Hokie 04/06/26 01:28 PM ET
VT needs to "sweet-talk" Bill, Elon or Jeff...or all three!**
EDGEMAN 04/07/26 10:55 AM ET
Many folks dont realize VT DOES have some very succesful business people
1947Sunbowl 04/13/26 11:08 AM ET
I agree they have ....
2hhoop3 04/06/26 11:11 AM ET
That's how much more they each get paid on their media deal vs. ACC teams.
Baltimore_Hokie 04/06/26 01:06 PM ET
According to tax returns and......
2hhoop3 04/06/26 01:16 PM ET
I've seen different numbers, but does it matter? 20 million? 30 million?
Baltimore_Hokie 04/06/26 01:45 PM ET
Agree with that.....
2hhoop3 04/06/26 01:56 PM ET
I do think there will be a "crisis" situation involving the ACC sometime-
Baltimore_Hokie 04/06/26 02:02 PM ET
Agree. Big ? How, and Who makes the decision to tell 6-7ACC teams to go
ancient alien 2018 04/08/26 10:18 PM ET
I'm starting to suspect more and more that the next seismic shift will be-
Baltimore_Hokie 04/09/26 10:31 AM ET
I’d be cool with this scenario. Call it the Big Country Conference.
mancunian 04/12/26 08:17 PM ET
I think there will be a shift as well, but i have a different take.
Big12 guy 04/09/26 11:19 AM ET
What if ratings is an outdated way of negotiating future media contracts
VTHokie2000 04/09/26 11:53 AM ET
You have a REALLY good point about the gambling
Big12 guy 04/09/26 12:00 PM ET
In Virginia, there are like 20 sports gambling apps available.
Baltimore_Hokie 04/09/26 12:14 PM ET
Why I think the so call bubble may not pop for college athletics because
VTHokie2000 04/09/26 12:17 PM ET
Each network either has their own app or they are affiliated with an
VTHokie2000 04/09/26 12:08 PM ET
My only problem with that is basketball is such a small piece of the pie.
Baltimore_Hokie 04/09/26 11:30 AM ET
The money will land where it does, and it
Big12 guy 04/09/26 11:49 AM ET
Re: forming a new conference - The Big East did it in the late 70's.
Baltimore_Hokie 04/09/26 12:09 PM ET
The BE could have......
2hhoop3 04/09/26 01:08 PM ET
I couldn't agree with you more on all points.**
Baltimore_Hokie 04/09/26 01:09 PM ET
i think it's time to separate football from
Big12 guy 04/09/26 12:14 PM ET
The conference paradigm will never die while the SEC and Big 10 are-
Baltimore_Hokie 04/09/26 12:16 PM ET
Like you stated, the time
Big12 guy 04/09/26 12:26 PM ET
FWIW there are examples of football only conferences at the DI level, so it
VTHokie2000 04/09/26 12:05 PM ET
How much gambling activity did the UCLA vs. Rutgers game generate for all
VTHokie2000 04/09/26 10:37 AM ET
The vast majority of gambling activity is by casuals/squares, and it-
Baltimore_Hokie 04/09/26 10:49 AM ET
I never said there was a connection between sports gambling and viewership
VTHokie2000 04/09/26 11:18 AM ET
I think the next.......
2hhoop3 04/06/26 02:09 PM ET
My prediction is that fan engagement is going to start waning at some point
MP4VT2004 04/07/26 08:30 PM ET
Nothing Disney/FOX/etc. does is for the benefit of actual CFB fans.
Baltimore_Hokie 04/08/26 11:32 AM ET
ESPN was a good......
2hhoop3 04/08/26 11:45 AM ET