UConn
Whatever happened to the rumors of UConn to the ACC? Did that get squashed when the Pac12 folded? ACC could use UConn more than ever to help save basketball.
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football mouth to feed,
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Are the schools like Boston College, Wake Forest, Cincinnati and Baylor that have no hope of any better configuration than what they’ve currently got.
The smart play by at least half the ACC and Big 12 schools - including Tech - is to plan for a future that aggregates the “best of the rest” in a geographically sensible fashion and leaves schools like BC behind.
The ACC hasn’t made a smart expansion decision since it added Tech and Miami. Now, the league is totally unrecognizable and deserves to die on the vine. To its credit, the Big 12 has died and returned to life over and over in configurations that generally make sense. But still, Cincy does not belong, UCF is a long term growth hope and WVU is a geographical outlier.
What kind of television deal would a 16-20 team league with the most marketable schools from the ACC and Big 12 command? Probably not as much as the SEC or Big Ten but more than any league that has to sell games involving Syracuse or UCF.
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but I don't think one 16 -20 league conference as the only thing between the P2 and G5 provides big media and the P2 with what they need from that middling level. I think what big media is looking for in the mid level is country wide coverage as work arounds for the P2. And I think the way that country wide coverage works best is 3 regional type conferences of from 10-12 teams each.
I don't think 20 teams gives the P2 enough players to look at to transfer up or coaches to get hired up. And I think the 3 region model provides more the big media than a single 20 team model.
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To me, there are multiple potential options -16, 20, 24, 32. The number turns on what programs are available and how geographically dispersed they may be.
The first question is who, if any program, moves up? Maybe none. Maybe UNC, FSU, Miami and others.
The second question is what other programs may become available by virtue of being kicked out of the P2 or a successor super league? Maybe privates like Vandy and Northwestern. Maybe some less prominent publics like Mississippi State, Maryland, Rutgers, or Minnesota.
The third question becomes what do the academic elites choose? Assuming they are available, do Duke, Vandy, Northwestern and Stanford want to form the core of an academic-centered league that might include the service academies, stray G5s like Rice and Tulane, and maybe publics like UVa and Cal-Berkeley? Or are they willing to compete with less prestigious schools on a regional basis with whom they have been reluctant to associate in the past?
After those questions are answered the question becomes what aggregation of remaining, available schools is most marketable? Because there will be few if any schools that are big draws on their own, my belief is that the initial group needs to be the biggest available brands, wherever they may be. Thereafter, one reaches the desired number by factoring in rivalries and attempting to balance numbers regionally (recognizing that the further west one goes, the harder it is to justify regional aggregation because of the distances and lack of strong brands).
A final consideration is whether to aggregate based on all sports or football only. Duke, for example, should be excluded from a football only league. But in an all sports league, Duke might have a place in spite of its lack of football following if some combination of Kansas, UNC, Arizona or even Kentucky is in the league.
I just think it’s hard to predict the final size of the league (or confederation) without talking through the options and scenarios. So for starters I would look for a core 16 or so that you think will end up in the group, regardless.
As for providing a level from which the P2 or their successor can pluck players or coaches, I think that has nothing to do with the need to form a new “best of the rest” conference, who would be in that conference or any related issue.
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then you undercut your argument by saying they would be an anchor to a TV deal. While both may be true, recognizing that the B12 is banking on the former.
Bottom line, the P2 isn’t interested in much of any ACC or B12 programs. There’s not much to be gained by tearing each other’s houses down.
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The Big 12 added UCF because it is a big, fast growing school in an eastern region in which it previously had no members. I understand the Big 12’s reasoning. But many of the most recent expansion decisions to bring in schools like UCF and SMU were marriages of convenience or necessity.
In my view, the best outcome for most ACC and Big 12 schools is a thoughtful consolidation of the best remaining brands in each, organized into divisions or pods on a somewhat regional basis and leaving open the possibility of bringing in a potential P2 outcast like Maryland.
I don’t know what ACC or Big 12 schools might get the call up to the Big Ten or SEC or a super conference combining all or most of those two. It is not unreasonable to assume that some (UNC?) might get that call. It is also possible that some SEC (Mississippi State? Vandy?) and/or Big Ten schools (Maryland? Northwestern?) might get pushed out.
Since Tech’s chance of getting called up to the SEC/B1G or the resultant super conference seems to be slim and getting slimmer, leading an effort to formulate a “best of the rest” conference from the best brands of the ACC and Big 12 and any SEC or B1G outcasts makes a lot of sense to me. If one keeps that new conference’s membership to 16-20 schools, I have my doubts UCF would be worthy of making the cut - especially if Miami and/or FSU are in the group.
Reasonable minds might differ on who is or is not an “anchor” in the ACC or Big 12. But they surely exist. There is no particular reason why Tech should help drag around the carcass of BC athletics for another dozen years.
** Edited by Tailgate Guru at 4/9/2025, 12:48:08 PM
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The only way I see UConn being invited in the next couple of years is if the ACC already "knows" they are going to lose a few teams by 2031. Thus, they may be proactive in getting a team they may "want" that isn't in the Big 12. However, like most people have said, UConn is not moving any needle for football at this time (in 10 years, maybe they have fixed part of their football issue). True, UConn would help on the bball side, but we are not sure what kind of money we are looking at once the tournament goes out for bid again - and how that will be divided up at that time.
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I believe everything the ACC is doing and did in the court settlement was based on best positioning for the conference in the post realignment world. They know, and we all should know that the major odds are that after this next realignment we will be with the ACC as our best option even though it will not be close to P2 level.
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To me that has been ordained from above meaning Big Media, for a long time. And to be fair the B12 and PAC will be exactly in the same place.
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If they are, then it's their ass. It would be akin to permanent and total relegation and inability to compete. They may as well drop to FCS or DIII.
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I believe there is a viable place for VT in that level between the P2 and G5. I also do not believe there is one thing VT can do to change what our outcome will be. It is not like there is a reservation in the P2 just waiting for VT to get up off our @$$ and just take it. Way more like it is just not there no matter what we do.
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What it absolutely cannot let happen is remaining in an ACC full of small private schools, schools with no fan bases, and also-ran G5 leftovers.
I'm not sure what you have such a hard time understanding about that. It would be self-inflicted suicide for VT to stay in the ACC and play a football schedule that consists of Duke, UVA, Syracuse, JMU, South Florida, Pitt, Boston College, Appalachian State, South Florida, SMU, Tulane, and Liberty. You can chisel it in stone - that's what staying in the ACC post-2030 is going to look like. It will be an even bigger joke than the ACC is now. They may as well shutter the program before they let that happen.
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of the schools you mentioned If I counted right, you only listed 6 current ACC schools that you think will remain. I don't think it will look like that at all. Where do you think the non P2 bound teams will go? I agree that Stanford and Cal were short time harbors in a storm members and are eventually headed back to the new PAC and SMU probably ends up in the B12. I also believe that at the max, only FSU, Miami, Clemson and UNC will leave for bigger places. I also do not believe that the mid level little p conferences will be any more than 12 schools and maybe small enough to do full round robin scheduling. A 10 team ACC would be close to ideal IMO.
So if the ACC has what 18 and we both think the west coast teams are gone plus the P2 4 then the 6 you mentioned staying, then where are the rest going? Where better than the ACC can the core group of VT, UVA, NCSU, Duke, GT and even Louisville go and do better than the post realignment ACC?
And even more how? With unequal revenue possibilities and the continued GOR even at 75 mil will stop just about any from leaving.
Seems to me an ACC with the 6 schools you mentioned plus the 5 I mentioned would only need one of the 2 Fla schools, maybe both trading SMU for UCF.
To me that is a very good mid level conference that can easily be the best at that level.
I am pretty sure that the old style regionalism will rule the little p2 (or 3)
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future of media payouts with the uneven distribution system. Obviously, some schools will be disappointed, and some schools will make closer to P2 distributions.
If it works, then the top schools may elect to stay, and the ACC may stay intact, and indeed, grow.
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That the ACC may well be positioning itself for being the dominant of the 3 mid level conferences. I do think the uneven distributions and the GOR will effectively block any exit AFTER big media moves the few into the P2 and makes the moves for a more regional little p3.
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are not something new or unique. In reality they are just another way to segregate the haves and have nots.
The devil will be in the details and how the formulas are derived and constructed and what types of behaviors it encourages. Most likely the P2 will use it as a more palatable alternative to stick it to dead weight schools as opposed to just flat out kicking them out of the conference. In the M2 it will be a bribe to the schools they hope to entice to remain and an alternative to kicking the dead weight to the curve.
At the end of the day there will still be a gap to the top. A larger compressed middle tier and a group of bottom feeders or pretenders will be mostly cannon fodder or development teams for the top tier if things stay together.
People should watch for the disclosures surrounding the distribution formulas. In all likelihood the completeness of those disclosures will be inversely proportional to the degree of objectivity and fairness involved in developing those formulas.
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formulas. If it's a permanent formula that awards the same schools year after year, and takes from the same schools year after year, it will in all likelihood not work.
If it allows schools to move up, or move down for that matter, it has a real chance. A 5 year average is probably pretty fair, but if a VT or GT starts to get ranked in the top 5 or 10, makes the playoffs, and sustains that level for several years, they should be at the top of the payouts. If not, .......
If it works, it could be a template for the "breakaway" league some think will happen - with one media contract, not conferences against conferences. One big beautiful media contract could bring in a lot more money than individual conference contracts being used as leverage against another.
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nice goal but, will likely require more leadership, vision and structure than the members will possess.
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from the ACC. Are you?
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and no longer expect full disclosure from any organization. Sadly, I read most things from the mindset of what are they leaving out or purposefully omitting and WHY?
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by yours.
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but, if I expand on that answer I expect @Will Stewart would be well within his rights to give me a vacation from these boards. ;-)
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it could also indicate there is going to be basketball money paid out like the eventual 16 team football money for the Sweet 16. Some people keep forgetting that the NCAA basketball tournament makes about a Billion dollars too, but 80+% is paid to fund other sports from the D3 to the D1 level. If they expand it, they could use the early rounds to keep paying for other D1 to D3 sports, but successful Conferences and teams could make money more money off of basketball success in the Sweet 16.
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Maybe they haven’t gotten the Attorneys to dot the i’s and cross the t’s, which proves the Attorneys on this are making out well with all of this consternation.
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will be revisited. Until now, unless you are ND or a similar blue blood, you are dilutive. CalFord and SMU, signed up for a guaranteed uneven distribution for a period of time. It appears that when that runs it's course, they will still not be guaranteed an even distribution - but can play into the money if they sustain success.
With the extension of the contract, without details being published, maybe there is room to add more schools, and grow the pie. It wouldn't be dilutive for the top performers of the conference, and would certainly enhance the ACC's position when the NCAA basketball contract is renegotiated.
The conferences are not getting smaller, the football powerhouses are pretty much set. What's next? It's not baseball or softball.
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unequivocally, that the conference leadership does not understand the new paradigm in college athletics, and what the real, concrete issues causing the ACC's slow burn implosion really are.
So, you can sharpie it in - it's almost certainly going to happen.
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So adding UConn to replace say UNC for bball may not be a bad idea at all.
So taking away the pie in the sky of the limited number of teams in the P2, why would Uconn be stupid? Yeah it would signal that the ACC and most likely VT know their future place has been set, but don't we know that already?
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That was messaged when he took over. It appears most got the message since basketball has obviously been impacted.
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How does ESPN feel about UConn to the ACC?
Anyone know?
Money talks. If the ESPN makes us an offer we can't refuse, then I am interested.
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Adding basketball schools certainly won't help. Now if you could drop some of the dead weight (BC for example) and then add UCONN then that would be an upgrade. But still wouldn't bring in much more $$ overall.
** Edited by HokieNoVA at 4/7/2025, 6:15:41 AM
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Add schools that if they played in your conference could recruit better coaches and players by playing better teams. Virginia Tech going from an Independent to the Big East is a perfect example.
PS if the NCAA 🏀 tournament expands, the money will grow exponentially, much like it has for 🏈. Right now 80+% is going to pay for other sports from D3 to D1. The expanded tournament will almost certainly pay out like the 🏈 playoff and what eventually be the Sweet 16. Please don’t underrate where the 🏀 money can go. It’s why the SEC is suddenly talking about taking UNC and UVA, two traditional basketball schools.
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don’t understand why some people are so short sighted in view. I think UCONN, Cincinnati, West Virginia and South Florida would be much better if they were in the ACC. UCONN playing BC, Syracuse, Cincinnati and WVU in football every year would be able to recruit much better. I remember when Virginia Tech joined the Big East, and instead of competing with Virginia State schools a lot started competing more with mid-Atlantic schools for recruits. The Conference you are in as long as you have a good to great coach can make a huge difference, especially if you start playing better schools.
I mean what do you think would happen to Virginia Tech recruiting if we were in the B1G or SEC? I can almost guarantee you, it would get better.
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The only school that wants to be independent is ND. Even Almighty Texas
knows they can't make independence work in this era.
I'm not sure what independence has to do with anything here. But it is obviously a non-starter for almost everyone, including UConn and VT.
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Being an indie works, if you could charge $ for the VT Network(for example
I am kinda surprised no one has had the sack to try this.
All the infrastructure is probably there to charge $20 to watch a VT game on the youtube for example. This would piss off the old timers, but honestly I am not sure it couldn't be pulled off.
Dream big baby
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Nothing more nothing less, so I guess we agree. Notre Dame lives in a world of their own right now, but that post had nothing to do with Notre Dame. It was how Virginia Tech joining the Big East raised their recruiting level. It’s happened to a lot of other schools that joined a better conference helps recruiting. Make sense?
** Edited by Stech at 4/7/2025, 10:23:03 AM
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most of the alumni base does not recall life as an independent. Schedules of Richmond, VMI Wilam and mary East Carolina and going on the road. for 11 games.
We were very fortunate to be invited into the Big east football conference. (WVU helped alot)...and 92 season was horrible and looked like we dont belong.
Now we complain..
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Now our offensive line blocking put an end to that, and we lost in state QB’s to Clemson and Florida State. However, we had wins over the ~100k stadium National Championship schools for recruits, I remember when the board used to melt down when losing a recruit to Florida, Penn State and Notre Dame. You have to have a great coach to beat them, but they can be beat, especially for in-state recruits.
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Not all rumors have a basis in fact. UConn would be a great addition in basketball, but a horrible addition for football. We don't need more schools dragging down ACC football. But if we could trade Cal and Stanford for UConn, that would be something to consider. At least they're on the right coast.
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WVU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I hope that the ACC has vetted them so they can be added if/when there are defections. South Florida would be another great candidate. There is more talk about UConn joining the Big 12 so it would be nice if the ACC could add them before the Big 12 adds them. The article linked below discusses the Big 12 talks with UConn.
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great addition. When people were calling for UConn to be an expansion team for the Big East (back when VT was still in the Big East), the assumption was that UConn, given the opportunity, would be able to develop a solid football program. Afterall, just look at what they were doing in basketball. But their football program never developed, even after years of opportunities. I was one that thought UConn had lots of potential. No more. Gave up years ago. They never took advantage of opportunites given after moving to FBS. When you cannot compete well in lower level football conferences, how can we expect them to contribute to ACC football. No thanks to UConn being invited to the ACC. They bring nothing in football and never will. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice - I'm not going to give you that chance.
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UConn won the Big East in 2011 and was doing pretty well up until the Big East imploded. UConn played three ACC teams tight this year and beat UNC in the bowl game to reach nine wins. UConn has only been playing big boy football for 25 years and they have made big strides. In the age of the transfer portal, a program can make a quick turnaround with enough NIL and the right picks in the portal.
The sad day for the ACC occurred when they settled with FSU and Clemson. The settlement makes it easy for teams to leave the conference in 2030 or sooner. It's possible they made the settlement with assurances from ESPN that a contract increase was coming but I'm not optimistic. It's more likely that six or seven ACC teams want to leave by 2030. There aren't many big programs that want to join the ACC and UConn is certainly one of the better choices.
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is fleeting
If the B12 gets UConn, the ACC will once again be outflanked. UConn is a no brainer for the ACC, but like WVU, UCF, Houston, and Cincy, they will in all likelihood not be available. The ACC could have had ANY of those schools, but passed on them time and time again. Then, when the B12 was finished, the ACC passed on the hateful 8.
By the time there are defections, there won't be anyone else left.
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I don't believe they will. I think that after big media gets the 3-4 teams they want out of the ACC, they will set up their "minor league" If they want WVU in the ACC or Stanford/Cal/ AZ/AZ St/Utah/Colorado in the PAC or SMU in the B12, that is where they will go.
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I'm thinking that the P2/Networks will want more than 3-4 schools
I would think that the Mountain Time Zone and the Southwest and Rockies are eventually going to get tapped. Colorado, an Arizona school, a Utah school. Maybe Kansas, too.
Maybe VT. Who knows?
All that I know is that the more the P2 takes, the greater the hardship it will be for those not taken. Some quality longstanding athletic departments are going to be ruined. I wouldn't want to be underneath the arbitrary line that is about to be drawn by those in power.
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P2 schools make more money, I don't see it happening. Not a single school you mentioned gives Texas MORE money - not one. It's why they have already been passed over.
There is no reason why the P2 would dilute their conference. They already have the money, playoff money, and competitive advantage. The idea that they will give that up, or share it, is just plain silly IMO.
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Sounds like you are saying no BigXII school will ever go to P2.
I could see Coach Prime bringing Colorado to national prominence and a national draw again.
I could see Arizona State, one of the largest schools in America, being a school and market that the TV execs like.
Not predicting it. But it is far from "silly."
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what I see, the B12 is moving forward. They will never make as much money as the P2, but really, the hatful 8 never made as much money as Texas from the beginning of time.
I'm pretty sure no team in the B12 would turn down an invite, but her fans aren't clamoring for it anymore. The complaining from the fans on who should, and who shouldn't be in the P2 has gone away.
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They are talking about different ways to generate more money, and continue to discuss future expansion.
No one, and I mean no one, is talking about leaving the B12, starting a new conference, or kicking other schools out.
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than it will be after the 4-5 more schools are added. Could you believe Vandy to the ACC and Northwestern to the B12. Why would the P2 share with their weak sisters any more than they would other leagues.
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Why? Because they can.
For the same reason successful billionaires fund worthless trust fund children.
I'm not saying they won't do as you say and drop some within the P2 (you suggest Vandy and Northwestern). But they can afford NOT to; and those schools have been in the club for generations. Tons of pedigree and relationships.
What to watch out for is that ONE of the P2 might start to out-pace the other. And if that occurs, the conference with the short end of the stick might look at their deadwood a bit more closely. But until then, I think the VU and NU are safe.
And by the way, they still COULD kick them out AND add teams beyond the 3-4 most desirables from the ACC/B12. I'm sure the networks would rather have Arizona State right now than VU or NU.
** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 4/7/2025, 4:04:44 PM
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current acc members. Would uconn hoops bring more cash to the acc coffers? Absolutely not!!
See BIG12. most members don't want them either.
huge no to uconn!!!
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I didn't see the game, but I see that they won again.
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consults Notre Dame like he did with Stanford and Cal in particular, or they call him and give the orders.
We all know football TV ratings would have gone up with WVU and probably Cincinnati too, but Notre Dame didn’t want them, so here go again!
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They wanted Stanford and Cal because of their academic stature, and they were basically looking at being homeless. ND has a strong relationship with Stanford. I don't know that ND would be against UConn. FSU and Clemson would be unless it can be shown that this pot of extra money coming from Stanford and Cal taking reduced share and SMU not taking a share benefits Clemson and FSU. As I pointed out below, UConn could possibly be willing to do something similar. The ACC is going to owe it to Stanford and Cal to require additions to do that anyway. A team coming from the Big XII wouldn't be willing to do that.
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...I don't think that:
1). ND wants to add anyone, and
2/ ND doesn't care who the ACC adds.
ND wanted the three schools last year to keep the ACC viable in order to aid its football independence and to satisfy the ESPN Composition Clause.
Other than that, I think that ND is Switzerland on any further additions.
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Clemson would want them.
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Perhaps look at options around the Texas area to shore up presence with SMU. Rice, Tulane, etc. Part of me thinks stuff in the Gulf Coast like USF perhaps. But UConn probably should have been here a long time ago, and they have certainly earned it with basketball. I'm not sure which is the best strategy. That's why Jim Phillips gets paid the big bucks.
I think you're right about FSU and Clemson, but I'm less concerned about their wishes after their behavior, especially Florida State. The ACC can now overcome 4 votes against an addition and still have 75%. They trashed SMU, who proceeded to come in and go to the ACC football Championship Game and CFP. So what do FSU and Clemson know?
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might be candidates. Their travel schedule for Olympic Sports is brutal.
I could also see UCONN and South Florida if enough leave for the SEC and B1G. I really hope unequal revenue will stem that tide, but that might be wishful thinking.
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I have been to both campuses. Both Great. Really liked Ft Collins.
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Sounds great until one of your four conference road football games is in
Storrs, CT. Just too lame.
The ACC's football problem is an 8, their basketball problem is a 2. And in a way, the football problem is impacting the basketball problem (see: rise of SEC Basketball). I just don't see UConn helping on that front.
Even the Big XII schools--who never saw an expansion candidate they didn't like--are rejecting UConn for the same reason, and even over the head of Yormark, who seems to want them.
Does UConn add $$$ to the ACC? I'm not sure. But unless they add a ton, I'm not that interested.
Serious question, how many yes votes do you think UConn would get in the ACC right now?
** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 4/6/2025, 4:39:03 PM
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UConn may have been a non-FB addition with a set number of games per year.
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UConn is used to Big East share as well as what an independent generates in football. It probably would be an increase to get what Cal is getting. They are one that could put more money in the kitty to be used to increase what top performers in the ACC get.
Playing games in Hartford, CT is not bad. NC State, Wake Forest, Duke, Boston College, and Syracuse have all done it recently and some are continuing to do it. UVA did it more than once in the last decade. UConn just beat UNC in a bowl game this past year.
They fit the geography, and they fit the academic standard that the ACC looks for. They are one of the better options still out there.
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