Bellichick to UNC, good or bad for the ACC? Tarheel, what do you think, if
you are still out there in Cyber Space? π€£
** Edited by Stech at 12/12/2024, 6:19:53 PM
** Edited by Stech at 12/14/2024, 8:19:46 AM
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Marooned
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and lanyards.
What a circus! It kind of reeks of desperation on the part of UNC.
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But I'm sure he'll find out quickly why Saban left. I guess in a couple years the job will go to his son.
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Anything that generates intriguing news is good for the ACC
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Hokie 04
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of elevating UNC much past their highs of the last few decades. Something about UNC football just oozes "soft" (not that we've been much better for several years).
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and he has the personality of a dying gnat. Honestly, I don't see him as that much of a draw for recruits as others seem to. Not to mention, the NIL crap, recruiting, and fund raising that he's going to have to participate in, as well as the donors and alumni that he's going to have to appease. Throw in the nepotism thing when he hires his son and this seems like a great big nothing burger to me.
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strategically, I don't think he will be outcoached but beyond that, who knows? his approach will either work with athletes that have limited practice time or it won't.
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When I first heard the rumors I didn't think it would ever happen. Then when it really happened and the details of the deal came out I was shocked that UNC had finally decided to go all in on football. I honestly don't know where all the money is going to come from to financially sustain this, but they just seem to be going off the idea that "if you build it, they (5-star players and multi-million dollar donors) will come.
I can see this going two ways. Either this will succeed and UNC will start winning conference championships and making it to the playoffs regularly, or it will fail spectacularly and we will still be mediocre in football but with a broke athletic department.
This reminds me a little of what SMU did to get into a power conference. With the shifting college football landscape, SMU knew that the time was running out for them to ever become relevant in football, so they swung for the fences and it seems to have paid off for them.
I think that the UNC decision makers feel that the window for becoming relevant in football is quickly closing, as the big boys in the SEC and B1G consolidate power, and that it's now or never for UNC to just go for it. And the more I think about it, the more I'm glad they did. I love college basketball (and some of the other sports), but the new reality is that if you aren't relevant in football then you aren't really relevant at all. And if all of this fails spectacularly, at least we can say that we tried and gave it everything we could.
As for whether it's good for the ACC, I would say that it's always good when another ACC school finally decides to treat football seriously. If the ACC is going to have a future, more ACC schools are going to have to start taking football more seriously too.
And just FYI, it's spelled "Belichick".
** Edited by tarheelblue at 12/14/2024, 1:54:31 AM
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Virginia Techβs current AD was a baseball player who played for his Dad as the Head Coach at JMU. He went all in for Olympic Sports, much like many in the ACC. I love Olympic Sports, but like you said, itβs all about football now. I have to admit I am concerned about Bellichick (spell check didnβt get me this time but it tried) taking top 5 recruits from Virginia, but I suspect he will do what Saban did when he left the Dolphins, and recruit the whole country. I am going to be interested to see what level DC and OL Coach we get with Carolina setting a new standard.Thanks for posting again, it can get rough around here sometimes, but most of us enjoy the different perspectives, even if we donβt always agree with them.
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I'm obviously a UNC fan since I went to school there, but I post here because I'm also a VT fan. My dad went to Tech and used to take me to the football games when I was a kid back in the 90s. So I want Tech to be great in football again too.
** Edited by tarheelblue at 12/14/2024, 11:19:01 AM
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I would think money would never be a problem for UNC. I wish the ACC as a conference could use the way back machine and taken football seriously when Penn State was still an independent. In 1980, if the conference had had its act together, it would have expanded and added the Nittany Lions, Hokies, Mountaineers, Hurricanes, Seminoles, Yellow Jackets, South Carolina, and 1 other (Cincinnati, Rutgers, Louisville, Pitt) to make a behemoth football conference. The fact that Penn State was looking around for a conference should have made the ACC snap them up even if they did not add anyone else.
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overnight. That money has to come from somewhere. Either they increase revenue from donors or some other way, or they have to cut the budget for other sports.
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Good for the ACC simply because it's Bill Belichick...
Probably not good for Tech recruiting efforts in Virginia and the Carolinas. Likely makes Pry's job a little tougher but yeah... good for the ACC's football image. How it works out for UNC is still unknown. It will be much easier if Belichick can find another Tom Brady. ;)
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Hiring Bellicheck may signal that UNC is adopting a more professional sports model. It may also indicate that UNC is looking toward the P2 conferences.
If that's true, it's certainly a bad thing for the ACC.
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VTBoar
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corner on the Monopoly Board if they even get to visit Boardwalk and Park Place..
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will run circles around VT.
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by anyone. He will out scheme every team they play, the only question is can his players execute the plan.
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talking about Belichick, said heβs the only coach heβs ever seen who can coach every position, offense or defense.
This cat could be a problem.
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thinking this through all the way, IMO. He knows what he's doing. He can outcoach just about anyone. He will sell the fact he's working to get his guys to the NFL. I despise UNC, but I'll be watching.
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Vippie1
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If say if NCSU or Georgia Tech or VT had hired him it might have improved their perception as a candidate for the P2, so in that regard it could be negative to the conference as a whole as to make it more destabilized. But UNC is fine for P2 status regardless . As such ACC can bask in the wake of the short term attention unc is generating.
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more than I do what he does on the field. I don't know if he'll have a great W-L record, but if they listen to him, he'll have the football office looking like an NFL team's. And that's what is needed now.
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Of course belichek and his national brand; other dynamic coaches af cuse and bellichek oc from new england at bc - get the crazies naduzzi pitt smu narrative and rheir momey ; duke raised their program with manny gt and their gritty coach and program clemson is just clemson and their the drama always at fsu and miami we are back and rhis group got 2 in the playoffs and rhe sec is cannabalizimg themselvss - acc has an interesting narrative much deeper than the big 12
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...the announcement was the biggest news in college sports. It overshadowed the SEC announcing their schedule for next year...lol
He will definitely get a lot of press leading up to, during, and after the next season.
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They will be on ABC/ESPN pretty much exclusively, much like Deion at Colorado. Their game against Richmond will probably get The CW, and their game at Charlotte will probably be on ESPN2/U
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