the B10 is overrated ON THE FIELD that isn't what matters, and honestly the "markets" don't matter either. What matters is ratings whether you are a school in the middle of nowhere or a school in NYC if you draw RATINGS you are worth more ad money PERIOD. And the Big 10 draws ratings that are really impressive. A lot of those middling schools you listed draw much better ratings than you or I would expect (because they suck....) and have really large alumni bases and fan bases.

I think Fox and ESPN are making grave mistakes throwing cash around like a drunken sailor. The P2 conferences and their members will nbenefit it in the short term, but long term the money may self correct to more reasonable figures.

exceed the payout to these conferences. And Ad revenue are based on Nielsen and other viewership results. And while I think you are right that they may be overpaying, wouldn't that take several years to tell the BIG or SEC that their product is not worth as much as we paid you in the past?

This is not new. The two of them have just ripped the big monetary value out of the Big XII and the PAC 12 right before the next round of television negotiations. The ACC has the opportunity to solidify itself as third before the Big XII and PAC 12 renegotiate each of their agreements and lock their schools in. We need to get Mr. Jim Phillips off of using the word alliance again in his vocabulary and go get what we need to do that. ESPN can give him the valuation numbers.

According to an article yesterday in the Raleigh News & Observer, the ACC was the richest conference as of their first raid of the BEFC. It's an interesting read centered on Tranghese's reflections of the past and observations of the present.

Before that happened basketball made the most money on television. The ACC and the Big East made the most from television in the 1980s yes. But once the court decision came down allowing he CFA to break up and the conferences to make their own football deals, the Big Ten and SEC had the upper hand. The ACC probably would have been able to keep up more if Miami and FSU didn't flop in the early 2000s in football. We had USC and Texas dominate followed by the SEC. But I still think that the SEC and Big Ten Schools still made more back then, perhaps not by conference payout, but by ticket sales to their huge stadiums. That's why the SEC teams had to maximize home games and rarely played on the road. I think the article is talking about payout from the conference television contracts. Yes there was a time when college basketball made more than college football on television when the NCAA controlled the television for college football.

the ACC is the clear leader in basketball at tournament time. If basketball breaks off like football, the ACC will likely start making football kind of money in basketball. They also need the Football Four Miami, FSU, Clemson and Virginia Tech, to start being in the top 10 again. We all know that the playoff will expand, it’s a matter of how many teams will play in it. I still don’t get 12 teams versus 8 or 16. The only thing I can think of is because Notre Dame doesn’t have to play in a Conference Championship. I really don’t care anymore if Notre Dame joins the B1G or the ACC. I am indifferent or may prefer them more in the B1G so they don’t get special privileges. In the ACC we kowtow to them and it makes us weaker. WADR to my Childhood favorite team Notre Dame, as my mother would say, it’s time to grow up, and that means the ACC and Notre Dame IMHO.

time now ;-)

The ACC is in transition at our basketball powers needing to replace legendary coaches at UNC, Duke, and soon Syracuse. We will need to get through that in good shape, but yes the ACC can excel in basketball. This would make basketball an important aspect of an addition. WVU has both football and basketball. Kansas and UConn have basketball. I'm intrigued by this PAC12 idea. Having Stanford, Cal, Oregon, and Washington would be big for the ACCN subscriber money. And I like you am not interested in worrying about ND any longer. Leave then in the current deal and make the ACC long term decisions not worrying about ND. The reason ESPN signed up the ACC and is promoting the ACCN is regarding basketball. ESPN views the SEC as their football property. But because they view the ACC as their basketball league, they shouldn't let it dwindle.

And hopefully increase some $$$

Non alumni and non fans. They have developed and marketed a reputation and people tune in. Reality is that ACC fans watch more SEC football than SEC fans who watch ACC football. Same with BIG Ten. People want to count school size and alumni base. But the real difference is people outside those groups tuning in to games. When VT fans are watching SEC games, Alabama fans are not watching ACC games they are watching other SEC games. Same true for other SEC and ACC teams.

...watching anything to do with the SEC or B1X, and exclusively watch ACC sports. Check! I've been doing that since the SECN first aired, and the ACCN was shoved to the side for years. I've never watched a minute of any game on that network, even when they air an ACC vs SEC game. Now I'll watch a live televised VT game if it ever makes it there. I don't get the B1XN, and frankly I have no desire to watch B1X games either. I think the only other conference games I've watched was P12 late night games, since that was the only game on at the time.

or a CFP game.

of any Power 5 conference. The Big Ten's present membership is made up of 13 large state universities and Northwestern. The Big Ten conference has the #1 public university in every state that they represent. That is where the ACC went wrong. ** Edited by Old Line Hokie at 7/10/2022, 7:30:41 PM

most populous states are in the Big 10. They’ve led the nation in b-ball attendance for 45 years straight. Nobody comes remotely close, numbers wise.

plenty of dependent programs. Especially in the Big Ten. Eventually, people are going to start wondering why programs like Washington, Oregon, Clemson. and more are being left out when Rutgers and Vandy are rolling in the money.