Changing the System...
I've seen a few questions not only in the last few weeks but also most of last year asking if MY will "change his system" to complement the roster. The short answer is he already did, and David wrote a good article today in Q&A with a quote where MY mentioned he would essentially adapt as he feels is necessary.
I think the average fans thinks "changing the system to complement the roster" means either a large change in philosophy or a complete overhaul and that simply isn't the case (nor should it ever be the case). The only time in which a complete philosophy change is necessary and positive is if you never had conviction in what you were teaching before (or you weren't teaching it properly). I think we can safely say that with a track record of success over three decades that MY certainly has conviction in what he is teaching.
From a fundamental standpoint, you don't want to overhaul your principles offensively or defensively because when it comes time to get the roster you would like again, then everyone will be set back to zero in learning those core principles (or you'll paint yourself into a corner teaching principles you don't fully believe in). My can rely on Hammond to teach other PGs some of the core principles as a supplement to the coaching staff with an ability to relay what he is seeing and what they will see when they're in the game. Schutt and Johnson can do the same for the wings. Lawal can do the same for the posts. If MY had changed his philosophy wholesale last season, he wouldn't have that base to start with nor the help from the different voices within the program.
So if not offense and defense, what did he change?
It wasnt in transition, that's for sure. The Hokies played a similar pace of play last season as they have in other years. That's what you would expect and want from a program designed around efficiency.
Where the largest change came from was rebounding, especially offensive rebounding. In previous years, MY has valued transition defense over offensive rebounds. To think about this simply, MY has sent 1 or 2 players to the glass when his team shoots a shot and has sent 3 or 4 players in transition to cover up any fast break opportunities should there be a miss. This has meant less opportunities for his offenses, but also less transition opportunities for the opponent, where teams are usually most efficient. He is able to have this philosophy because he recruits players who can shoot the ball very well. If you make shots at a higher rate, your need for offensive rebounding decreases. So if you can be efficient offensively without extra possessions AND keep other teams from scoring in transition then you can slowly suffocate an opposing team into playing your style.
But what happens when your teams can't shoot as well?
This is where MY changed his philosophy the most. In 2024-2025, MY consistently sent 2 or 3 players to the offensive glass (sometimes 4 depending on the opponent and his lineup) and sent 2 players back in transition. I think you can guess how that changed things. VT got way more offensive rebounding opportunities which buoyed their offensive efficiency, but in turn they were worse in defensive transition tanking their defensive efficiency. Unfortunately, he didn't have much of a choice because if he had stayed with his philosophy then the team would still be very bad offensively but with even less opportunities, but the defense would still be very young and, at best, an average to below average defending team. Making a tactical change in sending more to the glass while trying to teach transition defense to limit the opportunities was the only way they were going to make things work. The change in offensive rebounding strategy worked immensely. The transition defense was poor.
Here is where MYs team have ranked in offensive rebounding percentage the last 3 seasons:
2023 - 263rd
2024 - 298th
2025 - 155th
They nearly cut their rank in half. Playing the same number of possessions and shooting a similar number of shots, there isn't so much of a personnel gap that would account for that large of a jump. This was a concerted effort to make up for a lack of shooting when compared to previous seasons.
It was similar when Tyrece Radford played at VT, they actually ranked 168th at one point. That wasn't because Tyrece Radford was an amazing offensive rebounder (he averaged 5 ORB per 100 possessions his first year at VT, 4.16 ORB per 100 possessions in his time at Texas A&M...which means he was simply sent more at VT), but rather a tactical change to take advantage of what he did well. Radford could rebound well, but it wasn't like he did something other-worldly to achieve those numbers. He was 6'2 with a 6'5 wingspan and above average athleticism.
Compare that to Tobi Lawal, who is 6'8 with a 6'10 wingspan and 800 million inch vertical leap. You would think he would far outpace Radford in ORB per 100 poss. Nope...
Radford freshman year: 5 ORB/100 poss
Lawal first year at VT: 5.3 ORB/100 poss (DOWN from 6.9 ORB/100 poss the previous year at VCU)
So what's going on here?
This is why the tactical change worked. Most teams, when playing a team who prioritizes transition defense, will double (or "bracket") the opposing teams larger rebounders and let their bigs go and get the ball defensively. This meant Lawal was seeing more bodies when trying to offensive rebound than someone like Radford would see. As a matter of fact, many times Radford had a free run at the rim to rack up offensive rebounds. As you can imagine, if Lawal had a free run he would average nearly double digits in offensive rebounds alone.
Tyler Johnson averaged 3.8 ORB/100 poss which is in line with Radford's 2nd season at VT (3.6 ORB/100 poss). For reference, Justyn Mutts averaged 3.93 ORB/100 poss in his three seasons at VT, topping out at 4.9 in his middle season. Tyler Johnson also isn't a physical freak, he just was sent to the glass more than others in a similar position.
The other thing you can do to cater your system to your team is to run actions that put people in places where their skills are useful. That does NOT mean you have to run sets that are different from what you have always done (as a matter of fact, it helps if all your sets have a similar look) but rather you can change what the primary reads are or run particular plays more that you know the outcomes will lead to putting players in proper position to use their skill set.
Those are the changes you saw from MY last season and I think you will see a watered down version of that this season. I don't think Johnson or Avdalas will be sent to the glass as much offensively, but I also don't think you'll see VT completely sell out on defensive transition like they have in the past. If Bedford, Pasha, Johnson, Avdalas and Schutt can all improve their shooting marginally then you could see them shift closer to a defensive transition focus, but I think it is more likely a tamer version of last year and Radford's freshman year is what you see.
I would bet early on in the season they will prioritize transition defense, because that is the ideal state of the philosophy. They will test it out against OOC opponents and then adjust as the season goes along. My belief is it will wind up being closer to what I've explained above than what they've done in the past.
That's a lot of words to say when I see people ask "will MY change his system"? Well, he already has!
** Edited by GCHokie34 at 6/26/2025, 3:05:44 PM
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especially for 2022-2023 with Basily, Mutts, Cattoor, and Pedula. Roster looks better and bringing Frazier back helps in that regard, MY needs to dedicate more of his practice time in defense. His defense has been mediocre last few years.
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hokieZ71
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That Cattoor injury @BC sunk the 22-23 season. I always thought of him as an elite defender. VT was 10-1 before his injury and 0-6 after he got injured and didn’t play. I don’t think he was truly healthy after returning either.
Oh and if you actually read GC’s post above, I guess when his best half court defender happens to also be his best 3-point shooter and he goes out for 6 games and isn’t 100% when he does return, it must also hurt VT’s transition defense quite a bit. Double whammy…
So, if you’re saying MY needs to dedicate more practice time to avoiding injuries to star players, I guess that would be OK. But I don’t think that would be a savvy investment of time.
** Edited by hokieZ71 at 6/29/2025, 8:38:15 AM
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vtox1
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To personnel strengths and weaknesses.
Thing that will be fun to watch this year, is he will have so many more options and opportunities to exploit. Instead of weaknesses to try and compensate for.
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mateo
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It’s a shame that probably only the most diehard fans are going to be browsing this board at this time of year. More basketball fans would probably be interested if they knew.
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SC_Hokie
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…if I had more time.”
That was a lot of words to say “They sent more people to offensive rebound which improved offensive efficiency but tanked transition defense.”
But a useful insight. Thanks.
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1y
I wasn’t a great coach, but we tried to tweak from year to year. When I coached my high school teams, our philosophy every year was:
‘Shooters shoot, rebounders rebound, and everybody plays defense’. Similar to Bennett’s Blocker _ Mover offense.
Roles for entire team, down to the last player and even managers was communicated from the first day. Those reluctant to fill a role learned from the bench or bleachers.
I even had to use some bench learning for my best shooters (one wouldn’t shoot if he missed his first shot of the game). They learned quickly what their role was.
My rebounders learned if they wanted shots, a rebound was a pass to them, go get it.
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1y
this season? Mutts and Aluma were very effective posting up around the foul line to initiate the offense. Blackshear was very effective in the Sweet 16 run doing the same thing. Do you think Lawal, Hansberry (or even Avdalas) could be effective this year in the high post? Maybe that is something the pro scouts want to see more out of Lawal.
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1y
But I think it'll be what it was pre-last year...not anything outlandish
Last year VT primarily played two guys in the post who were horrible passers, so playing through them in the high post limited where the ball could go once they received it. That was another adjustment MY made last season; dumbing down the actions from that high post to make the reads easier. This obviously made the Hokies easier to scout, but better to be easier to scout than throwing the ball into the stands (which they did plenty anyway).
Hansberry, Avdalas, Gurdak for sure and even Dorn are all better passers out of that spot than Poteat and Lawal
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jrc3rd
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Mike Young does a lot of work getting post players into post positions by lifting their defenders and then setting cross screens, back screens and ball screens to make defenders late in post defense. The usage rates of the wings wasn't super high and that shows they werent the ones that the action was designed to free.
Lifting post defenders also makes them play in space. You have to guard a lot more actions and cover a lot more space when lifted. You can force the hand of your opponents if they have post players who arent good in space or help.
VT was just lacking in the ability to make defenses pay when they got open, and while they got open slightly less it was more than enough to be able to convert opportunities into points...just didnt happen
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1y
From outside (see Aluma, Mutts, Basile)
This roster resembles more of what he wants. Capable shooting bigger men who aren’t just back to the basket guys like Kidd & Poteat basically were
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Jmac610
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SC_Hokie
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If you would prefer it to be dead with no conversation, then go right ahead…
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I liked the lengthy explanation.
Puts a whole lot more meat on the bones for offensive rebounding and transition defense other than "crash the glass but hustle back on D" verbiage.
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1y
English, the peril of verbosity. You’ll lose your audience. But, it sure seems the basketball experts love to hear themselves think. And you don’t see that with other sports experts. Which is interesting.
Something about taking a simple game and making it more complex than it needs to be.
But thankfully, Coach Young is great at breaking things down in their simplest terms. Guess that’s why he’s coaching. And others are not.
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1y
Its that I make understanding basketball more difficult for people
It isnt possibly that one of us is butthurt about previous interactions so they'll cling to whatever they can to throw a shot so they can feel better about themselves. Sad really. Can't read lots of words and need to make personal jabs to make their existence seem less intolerable.
Hope you figure things out for yourself and start healing.
Oh, and sorry for so many words
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CMY's teams have tended to take a while to gel, generally playing much better later in the season. Given the perceived weakness of the ACC, early season non-conference games have now become more critical to building an NCAA tourney resume.
How do you think that this team will do early in the season? What can CMY do to improve early season?
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1y
Then every ACC school would schedule very weak OOC schedules and win all of those games. Then you can artificially inflate the value of the conference's teams if even a team with 4 ACC wins is close to .500
The MWC, Big Ten and WCC all do this. Every year their teams seem as though theyre beating up on each other, and every year we find out the conference isn't as good as it seemed.
The ACC for some reason went the opposite route, losing games they shouldn't and some they should, and then the entire conference season is spent thinking the whole conference is bad. And then NCAA Tournament comes around and the ACC performs better than almost every conference...rinse, repeat.
I think this strategy is doubly (triply?) true for programs who are a system and need time to become the best versions of themselves. Michigan State has become a poster child for this, losing games to tough opponents early on, people write them off, then the Big Ten schedule buoys their SOR as they dismantle everyone when they finally become who they were supposed to be.
VT can be that, but they need the perception of the conference changed first.
It is also important for a team who has a ton of new players to play an easier schedule as they learn not only the expectations of the system, but many times of college basketball in general.
So to answer a bit shorter...
I think there's a lot of volatility in teams like VT early in the season. They could run the gauntlet and lose a couple, or they could lose to Jacksonville. But I don't think either would be a sure fire indicator of who they are/will be later in the season.
I don't know what VTs schedule looks like from a date standpoint and that has a lot to do with it too...so who knows. Hopefully I can give a better answer around October when they start practicing and (hopefully) everyone is on campus and healthy
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Any thoughts on the new 32-game schedule rule for 26-27?
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1y
Its essentially just one extra game, whether you enter an 8 team tournament (and lose 2 standalone games) or a 4 team tournament (and lose 1 standalone) you have some flexibility.
You could do a late season game against someone you think is going to have a high NET to help your case. You could schedule an extra cupcake around finals time when the largest break in the season is. I think the biggest change is allowing multiple teams from a single conference to play in an in-season tournament. So you could play an extra conference opponent without it counting to your conference W-L (in theory).
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By laying an egg, the ACC basically said, "we suck."
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1y
But the ACC finished tied with the SEC in the 2023 Challenge and received 5 bids to the NCAA Tournament (NC State got there by winning the ACCT and was the 5th bid)
This past year they received 4 bids when losing the Challenge 14-2. So it didnt matter if the ACC performed exactly the same as the SEC or got obliterated, they essentially got the same number of bids.
Winning games no matter the opponent helps, but if the SEC/ACC Challenge isn't going to move the needle for your conference, just schedule cupcakes and pick up the win
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1y
Offensive reb/100 poss:
Tyler Nickel - 1.1
MJ Collins - 1.0 (avg)
Hunter Cattoor - 0.5 (avg)
Darius Maddox - 2.6 (avg)
Tyrece Radford - 4.3 (avg)
Tyler Johnson - 3.8
Easier to see in the bad shooting years MY has sent more wings to the glass, and when they shoot better they play in transition.
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1y
I, and most casual fans, would never know stuff like this. Won't hear it on broadcasts, etc.
Really looking forward to the season this year.
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