Slow Death of College Sports - Marketwatch
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** Edited by LocalExperts at 7/24/2022, 7:15:59 AM
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I agree with most of what the writer states. Overtime will today's student
even care about going to games and event to support athletes while they ate ramen noodles when struggling financially through school Even if they had access to parents funds and didn't struggle, will then care enough for State U athletics to fund the future? Will it be easier to most of these schools to just sunset athletic programs altogether? I don't know but I will be too old to care myself
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Good analytic Link. College football is literally financially backed by an older past 40 crowd that fills stadiums and financially backs the program. The whales that toss in the big bucks are most well past 40 years old. That is historically true. Those are older people just naturally don't necessary go with the flow in newfangled directions that well. A slew of new directions have been thrown out there liberalizing control. Why was that done? Are those at the control of college football that blame inept?
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I read somewhere that the dates on that College Football Transfer Portal had been expanded to two time frames per season with no restrictions on times used. Arkansas has had recent head football coaching changes with drastically different coaching philosophies. Arkansas lost 4 athletes all recruiting by a previous coaching staff in the transfer portal. Lost some more that didn't start. However those 4 were all from south Louisiana and two were starters on the Hog defense that went directly to LSU. LSU had huge exits from their program in that transfer portal due to firing Orgeron. One had one year eligibility left and the other was a DB with 2. Arkansas did get a couple from LSU that literally amounted to it all being a trade. I noticed when Pittman and the three players he took to SEC media day were interviewed, everyone of them were asked a question about those LSU portal transfers from Arkansas. Everyone of them seemed to have a scripted response. Our bros or great people and we wish them the best of luck. Nobody said the obvious about them turning their back on the Hog program. My point is that the Transfer Portal is very disruptive. Those reporters were looking for an obviously disruptive response with the portal questions. What is that portal about? Providing athletes that don't play an immediate opportunity to play which is noble or is it about a player getting disciplined for poor play and just in a rage telling coach to stick his head where the sun doesn't shine and then hitting the transfer portal? Having the transfer portal once a year sufficed. Having the transfer portal multiple times in a season just encourages the latter. It appears put in as a tool of disruption. A player having two yearly transfer portal opportunities and unlimited times he can transfer is just potential uncontrollable disruption.
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Rules than regular students? I googled transfer rules for regular students at UVA and here's what came up:
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least your last two years there if you want a degree from there. Like that at most schools.
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You can't go somewhere three years then transfer and finish your degree the next year. Despite the NCAA allowing infinite transfers, there will still be academic barriers (though let's get real, some schools will probably look the other way).
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...in getting a degree.
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I am not sure the sky is falling when it rains. Is it being reshaped, yes, does the sky is falling get clicks? Always has, going back to the beginning of time with man. Survival or the threat of it sells, but I think people enjoy tailgating on Saturday in the fall is still alive and well. We just went through a Pandemic, that had people pulling back, but be careful, as much as survival drives people, so does getting together and socializing and that’s ticking back up.
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With this system of Polls that I don't like, you have to go undefeated or close to it. When you put everyone together that are used to going undefeated and being high in the polls like Nebraska, it becomes harder to win. Then you have someone like Clemson that can still go undefeated in the ACC and be right up there with Ohio State, who goes undefeated. but Nebraska is out of having an opportunity. Look for Oklahoma, Texas, and USC to become a new version of Nebraska. 20 years since Nebraska did anything. Yes, they'll have more money. But the competition gets treacherous. Nebraska hasn't handled it well.
The ones that benefit are examples like Maryland and Rutgers. They sucked before, and now they get paid more to suck. But is that life fun for the fans? Notre Dame has it made in the ACC if they can get NBC/Comcast to pay them enough for football. In the B1G, they too can become Nebraska. Ohio State or Michigan will win there without serious challenge.
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If Tech drops to Tier 2, the fans will still come and tailgate and ...
socialize. To many fans, that's better than watching the game. I always walk the campus either before or after the game. To be honest, I look more forward to that than the game. I'm more interested in seeing all the construction on the north end of campus and upper quad. IMHO, I think most alumni love their school more than its sports teams. The sporting events are there to draw them in. As for fans who didn't attend the school, they probably care much more about the sports teams.
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informally.
And we really don't know that there's going to be any new formal division into tiers. B1G and SEC grew a little. I'm not sure why so many people are so convinced their plan is to formally break away from a system in which they're killing it.
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...VT becomes part of a "tier 2" system that actually looks more like COLLEGE football (not the pro minor league) with players that value getting an education and stick around for four years.
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Yep. With their own playoff.
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matter. They matter to having more money for the other sports. They matter to the businesses in town, They matter in attracting top talent. I could go on, but hopefully that's enough for you to get the point.
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When my oldest was in high school, absolutely enjoyed his games as much as an VT game. My middle kid played college water polo for 4 years. Weekend tournaments are 3-4 games with no admission except for the conference tournaments, and then it was something like $10 a day to watch as many as 8 games plus spending time with him between and after games. He also swam, and my daughter is a D1 swimmer. A weekend champs meet is trials/finals for $10 a day. After the kids got in sports, it opened up my eyes to how much I was too involved and wrapped up in VT football with so many other things I could have been doing at a far, far less cost. Now that middle kid has graduated, we'll still be going to Fall polo tournaments for GW and USNA.
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USNA is a nice drive and you can make a nice Fall day of it. We can drive to WVU and watch the big tournament with Gannon, Salem, McKendree, Mercyhurst, USNA, and GWU and stay overnight in Fairmont and catch probably 6 games or so.
We also have college swimming season at two schools to go to. Haven't watched college football for a couple years. Actually, the day college football died for me was four years ago sitting in Clarksburg, WV after a day of games with my wife, son, and daughter and following VT vs ODU on my phone.
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So I totally get that. The ODU loss and more importantly the division on the team that was revealed, made me realize we had the wrong leader. I am old school, in the since that I thought Bud should have gotten the job. Even if he failed, he earned the right to see what he could do. Now we have Bud Jr. running the program. I believe Whit recognized his mistake and leaned heavily on Bud for this one, thus I think Virginia Tech football is going to become fun again!! Not perfect, but fun again!!
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Better, actually. Cheaper, closer to the stadium, more room to spread out
and your day isn’t ruined if you lose.
** Edited by Femoyer Hokie at 7/24/2022, 11:12:36 AM
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that many more people go to those rather then smaller program tailgates.
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Doesn't mean it's better. Just higher.
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So for me the quality is shown by more people taking the time to be there, but I get it, that doesn’t matter to you.
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