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GOHOKEE OP
Jan 24, 2024 at 10:14 AM ET
Good luck to Hokie Boeing Dave Calhoun today. On the Hill
going to get grilled today by a bunch of political idiots who know nothing about building and operating a plane. He really stepped into a mess when he took over that slow moving ship - hard to turn it around

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MCL3 Hokie
How about the United CEO? He's on record as not counting on
delivery of the max10's he has on order. They are not FAA certified, and he said they are 5 years behind plan. United is a big customer and if they go to Airbus it will hurt. The United CEO said on Monday they are evaluating alternative options. Since it's a 0/1 option, that means Airbus. Calhoun was on the BOD before taking over as CEO. They had ample opportunity to improve their safety record when the 737Max was grounded the first time.
HokieHigh HokieHigh
Boeing has been a mess now for the last few years
I don't know why anyone buys their planes over Airbus at this point
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ModerateHokie
Well they probably know that doors shouldn't blow off midair.
And that bolts should be tight.
aint2Hokie4me aint2Hokie4me
I think I heard that the bolts were not installed at all.
`lag `lag
The good news is, it's not a design error, the bad news is...
yeah, heard the same that it's a production problem so at least it's fixable short term.
Nortazhokie Nortazhokie
CEO of Alaska Airlines said they found a lot more loose bolts in their
in-house inspections. Said he was pretty pissed with Boeing right now.
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NokieHokie
Bad luck to him!
ElbertoHokie ElbertoHokie
On a side note, I feel like now would be a good time to buy Boeing stock.
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Hokie1744
it slide about 120 points over 12 months in 2021 so I don't know if now
is really the true bottom. I would be comfortable at 180 or below and not surprised if it went to the 140s in next 12 months.
`lag `lag
I bought a "little bit" a few days ago.
Victory Ticker Victory Ticker
I tried that 3 years ago. 🤪
Tafkam Hokie Tafkam Hokie
It kinda depends. Way back when, we did a bunch of research projects
in a Business Ethics class. Case after case showed a pretty remarkable trend. When something absolutely hit the fan at threatened to ruin a company, most took one of two routes. Route 1 - Lawyer up. Defer, deflect, and deny everything. Limit exposure and liability and hope it blows over. Route 2 - Admit the screw up, own in, learn from it, get better, and assure the customers/investors/employees/stakeholders that it is being taken seriously and won't happen again. For the really big screw ups, Route 1 usually ended badly (like, bankruptcy badly) and Route 2 usually ended with the company coming out the other end stronger. If Boeing's response is defer-deflect-deny, then they are in a heap of trouble. If they own it and fix the problems, this is a darned good time to buy their stock at a discount.
Nortazhokie Nortazhokie
Didn't help that a wheel fell off a Boeing 757 plane this weekend as it
was getting ready to takeoff from Atlanta. Runway closed for over 3 hours while the crippled plane was towed back for maintenance. All planes lined up behind it had to be re-routed to another runway. Not sure if that has anything to do with Boeing or not, but it sure doesn't help right now. Audio from the planes and control tower linked.
`lag `lag
That's a pretty old airplane, last production was nearly 20 years ago...
so yeah, bad news is not good but it's a well know plane, not going to create any new controversy. Probably on the carrier doing the inspections and maintenance.
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ModerateHokie
Not to worry. Delta is replacing it's 757 fleet with Boeing Max 10s.
Doh!
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ModerateHokie
Hate those Delta 757s. So bouncy on the landings
Spud Spud
Captain Kangaroo is the pilot.
Chris Coleman Chris Coleman
Maybe I'll take a ship to Europe this year.
I don't think we've had any iceberg accidents recently.
UTPr0sim UTPr0sim
Get your tux out and ride the Queen Mary II
Atlee Hokie Atlee Hokie
I certainly prefer ships to planes (of any kind).
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Happy Dog
I learned a lot about ocean travel to Europe in the last year
Ships take the "great circle route" to Europe, which can take them through the Arctic Circle. The Coast Guard monitors iceberg location to provide guidance on safe routes through this area. Insurance companies require a certain distance from icebergs for ocean vessels. There is an astronomical cost savings for every nautical mile N that can be safely gained. The Coast Guard spends a lot of time and effort in understanding where icebergs are.
TomTurkey TomTurkey
All your icebergs are belong to us
MAHokie69 MAHokie69
Stick with one of the Euro airlines
Most have Airbus planes and better looking flight attendants!
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Happy Dog
Aer Lingus is cheap and good
We are flying to Italy in May, and it's Aer Lingus all the way there and back.
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HwoodHokie
I second this. I always avoid US carriers going to Europe.
Chris Coleman Chris Coleman
I'm flying back from Luxembourg most likely...
Just did a few experiments with Google flights, and it's tough to get something with an Airbus both ways at a reasonable price. Thought I had one with Virgin Atlantic, but as it turns out it's a Boeing despite most of their fleet being an Airbus. I guess I've got some more research to do.
CrystalCoveHokie CrystalCoveHokie
Fly through Doha on Qatar
Chris Coleman Chris Coleman
Yep, that's definitely true.
ElbertoHokie ElbertoHokie
Those guys(and gals) are compensated well and given golden parachutes
because they're likely to take the fall for something that isn't here fault. I'd be shocked if he survives this and something that's basically out of his control. I hope he hasn't made any cuts to the QA/QC budget during his tenure...
CrystalCoveHokie CrystalCoveHokie
No sympathy
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GreenvilleVT
Sounds like Boeing doesn’t know alot about it either.
Tuckahokie Tuckahokie
Total compensation per year around $21 million...may not be enough for that