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Arkansas would be more of a geographic thing than anything else

I think we've only played once this century, and that was at the 2002 Cotton Bowl.

SEC moving to a 9 game schedule starting next year

Looks like each team will have 3 permanent/annual opponents, and rotate through the remaining 12 in two year increments. I’m curious as to who everyone’s permanent three will be. For the Sooners, texas is the obvious one. And maybe Mizzou for the second given the history. But no idea on who the third might be. LSU, A&M, or maybe Arkansas?

Additional Details on the FSU and Clemson Settlement

Exit fee is expected to drop by $18 million each year through 2029-30. After that, exit fee drops to $75 million and any exiting team will retain is media rights.

Update - Or Maybe Not

"The report stating that Gonzaga is headed to the Pac-12 is not accurate, source close to the discussions tells @NBCSports . Both sides have had/are having serious conversations, but nothing has been agreed upon by the parties at this point."

Andy Staples

"The ACC has agreed to turn over copies of its deals with ESPN by Aug. 1 to the Florida Attorney General’s office. The AG will release them to the public. (Trade secrets can be redacted.)"

College Football β€œSuper League” Proposed

"The current CST outline would create a system that would have the top 70 programs β€” all members of the five former major conferences, plus Notre Dame and new ACC member SMU β€” as permanent members and encompass all 130-plus FBS universities," Marchand and Mandel reported. "The perpetual members would be in seven 10-team divisions, joined by an eighth division of teams that would be promoted from the second tier."

It’s certainly possible

Doesn’t the Big 12 have a pro-rata clause for adding P5 schools?

I can’t see any sort of merger happening

Doesn’t the PAC have a massive multi-million dollar debt due to their leadership trying to fleece Comcast?

PAC thinks they can trade up?

Pac-12 insider John Canzano reported the following on Thursday morning (subscription required): -The Pac-12 CEO Group has called a meeting for Thursday afternoon. The conference athletic directors will be included on the call. They’ll talk about their media-rights options. One member of the CEO Group told me they will β€œdiscuss the opportunity to β€˜trade up’ through expansion given Colorado’s decision.”

I'm not sure

I spent a while thinking about that, but couldn't recall if that info had been shared yet or not. Solid arguments can be made for either. Though, I think I favor the NCAA Tourney model. We've already got March Madness, so I can easily imagine people filling out football brackets for New Year's Reave (or whatever they end up calling it).

More complicated than I thought it would be

Conference Champs: 1. Georgia 2. Michigan 3. Kansas State 4. Clemson 5. Washington 6. Tulane At Large: 7. Alabama 8. Notre Dame 9. Ohio State 10. Florida State 11. Oklahoma 12. Oregon Round 1: 12. Oregon @ 5. Washington 11. Oklahoma @ 6. Tulane 10. Florida State @ 7. Alabama 9. Ohio State @ 8. Notre Dame Round 2: 5. Washington vs 1. Georgia 11. Oklahoma vs 2. Michigan 7. Alabama vs 3. Kansas State 8. Notre Dame vs 4. Clemson Round 3: 4. Clemson vs 1. Georgia 7. Alabama vs 2. Michigan Round 4: 2. Michigan vs 1. Georgia Champions: 1. Georgia

I'm not even a little bit worried about Venables

There are almost always growing pains when a new coach comes in. Bob Stoops went 7-5 in his first year at OU, finishing the season with a Liberty Bowl loss to Ole Miss. The next year we went and won it all. There aren't many teams that have consistently stood up to Alabama and Georgia and Ohio State, but Venables' defenses at Clemson were always up to the challenge. It'll take a year or two to get his system and recruits in place and right the ship, but he'll get us there. And speaking of recruiting, that's the absolute last thing any of us are concerned about. We have always and will always pull the bulk of our talent out of the state of texas. The only program that does that any better than we do is UT, and even then it's close. It doesn't matter what conference we play in, geography dictates that we will always share a border with one of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country.

We're going to be alright

The Nebraska game going away definitely stung for a while, but it died a slow death starting back when the Big 12 formed. As for our move to the SEC, we are going to take some serious lumps. That said, I'm not at all concerned about our long-term viability. Not winning a National Championship since January 2001 stings, but between BCS and Playoff appearances, we continue to put ourselves in a position to win. The future is bright, and we're looking forward to the challenge.

I’m honestly not sure

It seems weird, but that’s about all anyone seems to know at the moment

I do wonder

If it meant ESPN could enrich the ACC's programming, as well as keep Cal/Stanford/Oregon/Washington away from from the B1G/Fox, would the mouse willingly shave a few years off the ACC GOR to entice those schools? Not a LOT of years, but maybe scale it back from 2036 to 2032 (or maybe add a look-in somewhere in there)? An addition of that magnitude would at least call for some sort of tweak/renegotiation. Plus, an annual UW/Miami series would greatly amuse me. I'm not sure if there are any other FBS schools with more geographical distance between them than those two.

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** Edited by OU_Sooner at 2/9/2023, 9:46:26 PM

An Update

Looks like the remaining Big 12 schools and OU/texas had come to some sort of dollar amount agreement for an early exit, but Fox and/or ESPN nixed it

Looks like I was wrong

OU and texas will play out both of their last two season in the Big 12, not joining the SEC until 2025.

Atlantic Sun and WAC aligning to join the FBS?

Members would be Stephen F. Austin, Abilene Christian, Utah Tech, Southern Utah, Tarleton State, Austin Peay, Eastern Kentucky, Central Arkansas, North Alabama, and (in 2025) UT Rio Grande Valley

Bedlam ending in 2025 (or whenever OU moves to the SEC)

The Bedlam series between Oklahoma and Oklahoma State will come to an end in 2025. Athletic directors Chad Weiberg of Oklahoma State and Joe Castiglione of Oklahoma told Brett McMurphy of The Action Network there are no plans to continue the rivalry when the Sooners leave the Big 12 for the SEC. "It (playing Oklahoma) presents logistical issues under our current (scheduling) structure," Weiberg said. "We don’t have any openings to play them. We’re full. Unless there are significant undertakings to make the game happen, it can’t happen." According to Castiglione, Oklahoma State "has shown no interest to schedule any future games in football" and his program is "moving on" to other potential opponents.

Thanks

I rarely travel for road games, but I do have friends that have enjoyed their trips from OKC to Morgantown. Also, I'd have to assume the number of Ohio-based Sooner fans has something to with "The Kick" :) And best of luck to you all, as well

Agreed

Plus, that way the current Big 12 schools won't have to split texas and Oklahoma's almost certainly substantial buyout/exit fees with the new schools that would have just joined a year prior.

Definitely Possible

I could see ESPN wanting to have coast to coast programming options, like the B1G will be able to, without having to pay the PAC (sans USC/UCLA and possibly Oregon/Washington). Granted, this is assuming that the Big 12 gets some combination of Colorado/Utah/Arizona/ASU/whatever as a result of these early negotiations.

Dennis Dodd on OU/texas

"As a consequence of @Big12Conference starting negotiations early with rightsholders sources tell CBS Sports there are now active discussions regarding Texas and Oklahoma leaving early for the SEC." I've long suspected it would be in everyone's best interest if we were out and off to the SEC before 2025. It looks like that may end up being the case.

Since geography doesn't matter anymore

I kind of want the SEC to go after Washington and Oregon. The thought of having two programs from the Pacific Northwest in the Southeastern Conference amuses me greatly. And the weird thing is, at this point, it wouldn't even surprise me.

How does the PAC go about "replacing" those two?

I realize there's no actual way to do that, but do they poach a couple of Big 12 programs to stay at 12 (or more)? Would current Big 12 members even want to make that switch? Programs like Oregon, Washington, and Stanford are far too good to be left without seats when the music stops (IMO).

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Memphis' $150 million renovation of the Liberty Bowl

I'd heard rumors the Big 12 might be looking to expand beyond 12 (after losing OU/texas and adding BYU/Houston/UCF/Cincinnati). This could be a step in that direction for Memphis. Plus, given that massive bowl brawl they had a few years ago, a Memphis/BYU protected rivalry series could be fun as hell.

No idea on the duration

Everything I've seen about it so far just says "multi-year," so could just be for the rest of our stay in the Big 12 or beyond.

No idea on the duration

Everything I've seen about it so far just says "multi-year," so could just be for the rest of our stay in the Big 12 or beyond.

I mostly steer clear of that one

This one here is awesome because it's almost always civil and friendly discourse. Dirtburglars (aka LandThieves2.0) on the other hand, is rarely either.

I mostly steer clear of that one

This one here is awesome because it's almost always civil and friendly discourse. Dirtburglars (aka LandThieves2.0) on the other hand, is rarely either.