Picture of 12 team playoff schedule next year, 6 Conf Champs & 6 at large.
For fun, fill in the slots and then till me how this affects P2, the other P2 or 3, and the rest of the G5. Yep you have to put your thinking 🤔 cap 🧢 on for this one, to see where the puck 🏈 is going.
I’m looking forward to seeing what people come up with on this new 🏈 world. Intended and unintended consequences from it happening.
Edit: Please tell me in your answer who the 6 Automatic bid Conference Champions are, and who the at large teams are, and then seed them in the playoff, and move them up the brackets please.
** Edited by Stech at 7/20/2023, 12:44:35 PM
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3y
scouting to the teams playing Tuesday, Dec 31, and Thursday, Jan 9; they only have
a simpler scouting job and an extra day of recovery+potential practice.
but money, money, money, mon-ey; MON-EY!
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3y
Conference Champs:
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Kansas State
4. Clemson
5. Washington
6. Tulane
At Large:
7. Alabama
8. Notre Dame
9. Ohio State
10. Florida State
11. Oklahoma
12. Oregon
Round 1:
12. Oregon @ 5. Washington
11. Oklahoma @ 6. Tulane
10. Florida State @ 7. Alabama
9. Ohio State @ 8. Notre Dame
Round 2:
5. Washington vs 1. Georgia
11. Oklahoma vs 2. Michigan
7. Alabama vs 3. Kansas State
8. Notre Dame vs 4. Clemson
Round 3:
4. Clemson vs 1. Georgia
7. Alabama vs 2. Michigan
Round 4:
2. Michigan vs 1. Georgia
Champions:
1. Georgia
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3y
The NFL model being that the highest seed always plays the lowest seed remaining. Under the NFL model, the 2nd round would be:
11 Ok vs 1 UGA
8 ND vs 2 UM
7 Bama vs 3 KSU
5 UW vs 4 CU
Semis would be
1 UGA vs 7 Bama
2 UM vs 4 CU
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3y
I spent a while thinking about that, but couldn't recall if that info had been shared yet or not. Solid arguments can be made for either. Though, I think I favor the NCAA Tourney model. We've already got March Madness, so I can easily imagine people filling out football brackets for New Year's Reave (or whatever they end up calling it).
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3y
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3y
has to play in round 1 because of not playing in a Conference Championship game. You got that right, but some are missing those rules too.
** Edited by Stech at 7/21/2023, 9:53:28 AM
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3y
Please tell me in your answer who the 6 Automatic bid Conference Champions are, and who the at large teams are, and then seed them in the playoff, and move them up the brackets please.
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VPI_1998
3y
12. Arkansas @ 5. Florida
11. Ole Miss @ 6. Tennessee
10. South Carolina @ 7. aTm
9. Auburn @ 8. OU
5. Florida vs. 1. Georgia
6. Tennessee vs. 2. Alabama
8. OU vs. 3. LSU
7. aTm vs. 4. Texas
7. aTm vs. 1. Georgia
3. LSU vs. 2. Alabama
2. Alabama vs. 1. Georgia
Rinse, Repeat
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It won't be just a dream after this CFP contract is up in 2025-26.
Not saying they will go ALL at-large (but they might). But I doubt there will be 6 automatic bids.
The P2 didn't invited Texas, Oklahoma, and USC so a ton of their blue bloods could sit at home while Boise State or Tulane take a playoff spot.
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The CFP-12 is only a deal for the rest of the remaining CFP-4 contract.
So yeah, they needed the OK of the all parties to change it for those two seasons or so. But post 2025-26 won't have such limitations on the P2.
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3y
to change the format. It took 4 years to get the conferences to agree to this format, so while it's my belief that is will go to 16 the second they see the success of campus playoff games, they will keep the 6 auto's moving forward.
That will be the compromise when there are a LOT of really good teams from the BIG and SEC watching from the sidelines. Those extra 4 at large bids will satisfy the P2, as they also will get home playoff games.
I would like to see all 6 autos get a home playoff game, but that will be where the big boys step in because of the monies involved with a home game.
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3y
manipulation to try and get the most SEC teams in there if ESPN still carries all the playoff games
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No doubt. But it's an all at-large CFP right now.
And there's still manipulation.
I'd love a system where we could just get rid of bogus polls and minimize selection committees. But I doubt that we will ever have one.
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3y
each of the big 4 has two divisions. An 8 team playoff, division winners play each other in round 1 then seed the final 4.
No favoritism, no polls, win and you're in, period.
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3y
makes sense not to have a carved out conference in it. It will be the Big 10, SEC, Pac, and Big 12. The ACC will already have lost or will have teams that stated they are moving to other conferences. An ACC with Syracuse, Wake Forest, BC, Va Tech, Duke, GA Tech, Temple, South Florida, Rice, Tulane, Memphis, and East Carolina doesn't scream power football.
** Edited by HouClone at 7/21/2023, 3:09:13 PM
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If UW, FSU, Clemson and Oregon go to the P2, there will be no
"4 Conferences" concern. It will be a P2. And that's it. The Big 12, ACC and Pac-X will basically be G5. In fact, after OU and UT leave, there will not be a single team in the Big XII that is a national draw.
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3y
The only reason schools want out of the ACC is the current payout. That can be fixed a lot easier than nreking it up. The pac and ACC have history and significance, the big 12 is the never ending last bastion for those with no other choice. No one outside the fan bases of those schools cares about the B12. The fact that it's current deal might. Reiterate might, pay a little more doesn't mean it suddenly has significance.
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3y
anybody but the Big 10 and SEC. Say VA Tech wins the national championship, is happy in the ACC, and then the next day the SEC and their $30M/year advantage per team calls for an invite. VA Tech says yes or no?
** Edited by HouClone at 7/21/2023, 7:17:33 PM
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3y
the rest of the ACC will be misfits just like the B12, and the rest of the PAC.
The ACC then, will have no leverage to poach anyone.
Keep in mind, the ACC could have had anyone in the new B12. That's right, any of the 12 left after Texas and Oklahoma would have jumped at the chance to be in the ACC. There are some pretty valuable schools that the ACC passed on, including Cincy, WVU. and UCF - a few no brainers for the ACC.
The B12 is together today, not because they are better than the PAC or ACC, but because of the snobbery both those conferences have.
The Truck stop conference is content, expanding, and secure. The ACC isn't.
You have half of your conference with a foot out the door already, and that has nothing to do with the B12.
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3y
probably not the back end of the P5 either.
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Why would the P2 allow the G5 to dictate terms?
The power locus has shifted. If the P2 don't want 6 at-larges, they'll have the power to prevent it, along with Fox and ESPN and anyone else who might be bidding on the CFP rights come 2025-26. Moreover, the Big XII, and Pac-10 are much weaker without UT, OU, UCLA and USC in them, and I don't see all these blue bloods being ok with a mediocre conference champion from one of the former P5s getting an automatic bid or even a bye as it's set up now.
And BTW, Notre Dame would love an all-at-large CFP as well.
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3y
enough votes otherwise.
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VPI_1998
3y
remainder of the best programs from the other conferences and start their own league, thus securing the total destruction of FBS College Football as we know it.
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3y
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3y
12. Tulane @ 5. Clemson
11. FSU @ 6. Tennessee
10. Penn State @ 7. Alabama
9. Utah @ 8. Notre Dame
5. Clemson vs. 1. Georgia
6. Tennessee vs. 2. Ohio State
8. Notre Dame vs. 3. K-State
7. Alabama vs. 4. USC
7. Alabama vs. 1. Georgia
8. Notre Dame vs. 2. Ohio State
2. Ohio State vs. 1. Georgia
Winner of the big pot of gold: Ohio State
Same (yawn) results, just more games. Rounds 1 & 2 are where the fun will be. There are a lot of rematch from the season opportunities that may take some of the interest out of it though. I just hope both a Sun Belt and AAC team ends the year in the top 10 so the interest level is a little higher, though I'm sure a committee will find a way to only take 1 of those conference champs.
** Edited by Victor Tango at 7/20/2023, 10:52:57 AM
** Edited by Victor Tango at 7/20/2023, 10:53:36 AM
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3y
I am confused on how you got to the teams.
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3y
Penn State
NC State (finally)
Oregon
Tennessee
Iowa State (I know)
Toledo (if they keep their coach) or Troy.
At large:
FSU
USC
Bama
Georgia
Ohio State
The P5 auto is a crapshoot., but I think there will be more parity in the AAC than people give them credit for.
There are 5-8 teams that could win the B12, but there will be new names in the playoffs, and the ACC and B12 will bring them.
Both NC State and ISU are due for a breakout season, mostly because of their stability in the coaching position.
If ND gets a bid, it's very likely that the B10 and SEC get 3 bids total, year in and year out. There will be a LOT of bluebloods watching the playoffs from home.
Seeding??? ha, it's all a guess.
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