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Atlee Hokie Atlee Hokie
7mo
It doesn't become ND to be a whinny little brat.
Old Line Hokie Old Line Hokie
7mo
I understand Notre Dame's AD's frustration, but....
him *****ing about the Irish being left out of the playoffs and attacking the ACC makes him and the university look like a bunch of crybabies and further puts Notre Dame vs. the world (Power 4 schools). The ACC has to take care of their "fulltime" members before taking care of Notre Dame. I'm sure the ACC would 100% support a Notre Dame bubble team (basketball or any of their other 21 sports teams in the ACC) getting into the NCAA Tournament. The more Notre Dame *****es, the more disliked they will become. Maybe Notre Dame doesn't care if everyone else hates them (ND Football) but this isn't a good PR move for them. IMHO, what Notre Dame learned yesterday is that they either need to become a fulltime member of a Power 4 conference or go 12-0 or no worse than 11-1 in the regular season as a football independent. ** Edited by Old Line Hokie at 12/8/2025, 4:46:53 PM
MDHokie79 MDHokie79
7mo
The fact is, ND didn't beat ANY really good teams except overrated Navy
IB4TECH IB4TECH
7mo
If the ACC was against ND over Miami, then the media also played a big part
It all came down to head to head games. Plus, the CFP owed the ACC big time by not having FSU in the CFP a couple of years ago. It will be interesting to see what is the E(SEC)PN's take on this
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2hhoop3
7mo
Like I said yesterday.......
the coming days will show ND, the school and its administration, for exactly who they really are and have been all along.
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Big12 guy
7mo
Did you or anyone ever think differently?
reestuart reestuart
7mo
Aside from the Kelly years, I've always liked ND, and I've also not really
been bothered by what others have seen as entitlement. But they seem to be showing their collective ass of late. That's disappointing.
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2hhoop3
7mo
Yes......
about 40 years ago.
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Big12 guy
7mo
OK, when I was a kid, maybe I thought differently as well.
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2hhoop3
7mo
Have you ever really......
thought about anything? There is scant little evidence, if any, of that in your history here.
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Big12 guy
7mo
Ouch
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Vippie1
7mo
Disingenuous to pin this on the ACC
They are too gutless to attack the greed of the P2 and their respective primary networks because they may eventually need them as a lifeboat for scheduling and or membership. So scapegoat the "partner" who is fighting against odds for their very existence. Yeah the ACC could have been a tad less specific in its lobbying for Miami but it ultimately had zero to do with the committees tortured decision and ND knows it. ** Edited by Vippie1 at 12/8/2025, 1:16:51 PM
reestuart reestuart
7mo
I don't think the ACC did anything wrong at all. I'm surprised they did it.
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Tailgate Guru
7mo
I just sent him boxes of Pop Tarts and tissues via Amazon
It was $13 well spent. Should arrive by next Monday. Honestly; all of this juvenile huffing and puffing is likely a pretext to cover Bevacqua’s plan to move more of Notre Dame’s “assets” to his former employer, NBC. I think that plan has been in the works for quite a long time. The ACC is probably dead man walking in five to eight years with or without Notre Dame. Crying over the ACC promoting one of its football members is or should be embarrassing for the fathers in South Bend, but it is what it is. Making this controversy a talking point for exit fee negotiations is pretty weak, silly stuff. Maybe Notre Dame can find places to send its non-rev athletes in the future. If so, the Irish can knock themselves out. None of their options will be as good as having the ACC banner over those sports, even if only for five to eight more years. There will always be schools that will line up for the opportunity to see those shiny helmets in their own stadium, even if it is only just a nostalgia show. If Bevacqua wants to pout and play the bully, he can do whatever he wants.
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HOO86
7mo
First Thought Why Pop Tarts? Then I realized that's the new name for Bowl.
I've always thought it to be called Camping World.
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Tailgate Guru
7mo
Bevacqua mentioned it in his rant
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Vippie1
7mo
Hope they enjoy the prestige of all their sports sans football
playing a Big12 schedule as opposed to Duke, WF, uva, cal, Stanford, bc etc. Because that stuff matters in South Bend.
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Big12 guy
7mo
First, any B12 schedule is better than the schools in your post. Second,
no one, and I mean no one, is talking about ND going to the B12 - not even us B12 shrills.
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RandomAsianGuy
7mo
Obviously ND AD is mad.
Would it lead to any changes in terms of realignment? No.
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1947Sunbowl
7mo
maybe he and Kraft at PSU, can cry on each other's shoulders.]
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Stech
7mo
ND ready to go to the Big 10?
reestuart reestuart
7mo
That’s what I was wondering. Their outrage is misplaced.
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Stech
7mo
The nice comments about Bama cracked me up, they screwed them not Miami,
now if this can get the ACC a new commissioner. 👏👏👏👏
reestuart reestuart
7mo
He should have called out ESPN/CFP. ESPN owns the CFP and the SEC. That's
where the ND bid went. It's clear as day what happened, but he felt the need to put the ACC down? LOL. That guy is a chump.
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Stech
7mo
He probably wants Commissioner fired or they will leave or both, I am fine
with any or all of it. ND’s 2-3 games a year on ESPN to help our contract, versus the 150+ ACC games, is wayyy overrated. They aren’t coming full time, get rid of this divisive arrangement.
reestuart reestuart
7mo
I have always thought the arrangement was a net positive for the ACC, but
if their AD is going to go to the media to complain and slam the ACC for doing what they are supposed to do, they can hit the road. The P2 isn't giving them that deal. The Big XII is constantly rearranging the deck chairs. Good luck getting the benefit of the doubt partnering with those guys.
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Big12 guy
7mo
ND doesn't need a partnership with the B12, BIG,
ACC, or the SEC. A non football conference like the Big East is right up their ally. They can schedule anyone they want in the ACC or B12, anytime they want. BTW, the B12 did shuffle their chairs. So did the PAC, BIG, and SEC. Wonder who is next?
reestuart reestuart
7mo
Big East would likely work for non-football, but they already did that
many years ago. I know it's different now, but how many sports does the Big East even have as a conference?
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Big12 guy
7mo
The PAC is gone, and it appears that some sports
may be dropped. It's not like the ACC has hockey, so in those sports that are not sponsored, there is precedent that affiliation could still remain with the ACC. Oklahoma wrestling would be a good example, as they continue to be affiliated with the B12.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
FWIW the Pac-12 will resume operates as a functioning athletic conference
in FY 2026-27. It will sponsor 19 sports (8 men's and 11 women's). Given that it will have 8 schools that sponsor football, it will retain its FBS eligibility on Day 1. It should be able to retain the Pac-12's automatic bids to both NCAA basketball tournaments on Day 1. If not, then it might have to wait 1 year to fulfill the requirements similar to what happened to the MWC when it formed. Since the conference is adding Dallas Baptist, Southern Utah, and Northern Illinois for specific Olympic sports, the conference should be able to retain the conference's automatic bids to the various NCAA tournaments for those sports.
reestuart reestuart
7mo
LOL! WTF? He can kiss off. What a bunch of babies.
manassashoo manassashoo
7mo
The bloom is off that turd which is Notre Dame.
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33laszlo99
7mo
I admire your gift for imagery.
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drb
7mo
It's so enjoyable watching ND act like a petulant 10 YO. Taking your ball
and opting out isn't the answer. Either way- what a bunch of cry babies.
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mancunian
7mo
This is from the Athletic
does this summarize your collective gripes? "It’s hard to know where Notre Dame’s relationship with the ACC goes from here, or how much of the pettiness on the part of the conference will be forgotten. The official ACC Football account taking aim at the Irish’s resume on X and the ACC Network showing Notre Dame-Miami 13 times last week don’t need to leave scars. Notre Dame’s real concern should be the competence of a conference that allowed its championship game to be played between Virginia and five-loss Duke. The league failed to put in place a system that got Miami to the conference title game, opening the door for James Madison to steal a bid. That’s strategic mismanagement. The league could have avoided alienating Notre Dame simply by having the foresight to put guardrails in place to get its best teams to its marquee event. Instead of Notre Dame and Miami in the CFP, the ACC put in place protocols that led to Notre Dame or Miami." ** Edited by mancunian at 12/8/2025, 11:20:35 AM
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HokieNoVA
7mo
ND is welcome to take their olympic shorts elsewhere, to hell with them.
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Big12 guy
7mo
I don't get it. having ND associated with the ACC
is nothing but a positive. Their football games with the ACC are one of the reasons you get the media money you do. It certainly ups your SOS. Honestly, I just don't understand the animosity of the fans on this board.
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Stech
7mo
What Texas did to the B12 by having their own TV contract, very divisive to
the conference one is not a full team member. Team our practice is three hours, but Billy Bob, your practice is only an hour. Eventually it splits the team up, and causes an implosion.
goldendomer goldendomer OP
7mo
They were convinced by a person on this board that we were coming in
As a full member of a conference eventually. Over the years that has been proven to be completely false. I noticed the shift a few years back and it has gotten worse. I as a result got more combative.
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Stech
7mo
Right many in ACC voted yes, they thought they would join full time 🏈, but
we underrated the TerryD’s at NDđŸ¤Ŗ. Even though ND gave hints they would eventually join a Conference and they preferred the ACC. The expansion beyond the 4 team playoff killed any chance of them joining a conference, and now I don’t care what they do. However, anybody can see this relationship is very divisive for the ACC, or whomever they were to partner with as a conference. I either see the Commissioner being fired, or ND going back to full time 🏈 independence, or both.
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Big12 guy
7mo
The do not have to partner with a conference. It's that simple.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
Good luck trying to make the NCAA Tournaments in basketball as an
Independent. You probably have to go back to either the '80s or '70s to find an example where an Independent made the field in either the men's or women's tournament. The non-revenue sports may be able to skate by as an Independent. Although it is worth noting that Notre Dame didn't think its men's ice hockey team could survive as an Independent, so it is a member of a conference and now in the Big Ten.
AnotherTechW AnotherTechW
7mo
goodluck making it as a member of ACC they are terrible and no one goes
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
Huh? The ACC receives an automatic bid to both NCAA Tournaments in
basketball (men's and women's) so I am not sure what you are talking about.
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Big12 guy
7mo
My bad. Let me rephrase. They do not have
to be affiliated with a football conference.
goldendomer goldendomer OP
7mo
Don’t worry looks like we’re looking to do just that. And then the ACC will
Officially blow up. And I will be very, very, very happy knowing that we were the first catalyst in this realignment round that officially killed the ACC.
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daveinop
7mo
I think we're resolved that blowing up is happening with or without ND
VT figures it has 2-3 years to become relevant enough in football to be picked up by B1G or SEC. What ND does or does not do has no impact on that. In the ACC there was hope that ND would eventually join in football. But that isn't happening and without that the ACC as it once was, is doomed. So the drama going on right now is getting a little press, but none of the members are wringing their hands if ND wants to pull out of the conference. ** Edited by daveinop at 12/8/2025, 4:49:05 PM
reestuart reestuart
7mo
I don't think pulling your basketball team and other non-football matter.
That's not going to do anything to the ACC.
RTFC RTFC
7mo
First? LOL - already in process - you'll want to claim that as well...
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Baltimore_Hokie
7mo
LOL, the ACC has been dead man walking since they panic added SMU/CalFord.
Especially after the FSU/Clemson settlements, and its ramifications on the de-escalating conference exit fee and rights ownership, anyone with the capacity for abstract thought understands that the ACC will be a G5 joke here in about 3 or 4 years. Disney and FOX are going to pick whatever meat they want off the carcass, and leave the rest to rot. This little tiff with Notre Dame is little more than salty piss on the ACC's grave, and, frankly, I think it's just pretext for them to set up the betrayal that everyone paying attention already knows is coming. Anyone that actually thinks Notre Dame had any real long term plan for commitment to the ACC is completely naive. Does anyone really think Notre Dame was going to continue to fulfil a 5 game scheduling commitment when they would be playing Wake Forest, Syracuse, Boston College, Duke, and SMU? It's laughable.
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Big12 guy
7mo
No lawsuit needed.
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Sunsetunderground
7mo
ACC should merge with the Big East and refuse to schedule ND in any sport
Unless they join. Have fun being independent after that.
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HOO86
7mo
No. I'd rather merge with the Big XII than the Big East
The Big East does nothing for me. I'd like to invite Connecticut, but that's about it from the Big East.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
Since the ACC's blood bleeds round ball instead of oval ball, the merger
with the Big East would allow the ACC to become king in the sport that is nearest and dearest in its heart. Whereas a merger with the Big XII doesn't accomplish that same goal because the Big XII's blood is not (round ball) "pure" with the exception to Kansas.
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HOO86
7mo
I guess, but since we started this mission of Nationwide
And the Big XII has done it somewhat too that merger really would create a Nationwide Conference. We've already taken out of the Big East most of what the ACC needs.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
You can polish a turd and it will still be a turd. My point is the ACC
truly has never embraced the "football culture" even going back to the "FSU and 8 Dwarf" days. A merger with the Big XII won't change that for the ACC schools who have completely bought in to the "basketball culture" that the ACC brand was built on. The addition of Big XII teams won't suddenly make BC, Syracuse, Pitt, UVA, Duke, Wake, UNC, NC State, GT, Cal, Stanford, and Miami be passionate about football to SEC-like levels which is probably required if the ACC wants to change how people perceive it as a football conference. I included Miami on the list because their fans won't travel outside of South Beach compared to how they were in the '80s and '90s. For the state schools, they should have the best chance to get off the list because they should have a large fan base (minus maybe GT and quasi Pitt) to tap into as a fuel resource. They just have to figure out how to get their fan base to be equally passionate about the oval ball as they are about the round ball.
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Stech
7mo
U mean Miami fans won’t travel from South Beach to Hard Rock stadium right?
đŸ¤Ŗ
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
Hence why I said South Beach and not Miami ;-)
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Sunsetunderground
7mo
Merging with the Big East would essentially lock out Notre Dame in the East
If they dont join. Their strength of schedule would be even worse in Big 12 relationship. Also where would their Soccer, Lacrosse, Women's sports non revenues play? This would be the ultimate join us ultimatum. If they dont want to join they risk scheduling any ACC Big East teams in the future. That would be a hard pill to swallow.
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HOO86
7mo
Perhaps. But I don't want anyone to join that doesn't want to join.
That is unhealthy at best. Much of the Florida State faithful has never wanted to be here, and it has caused problems over the years. So let them go on their merry way.
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Big12 guy
7mo
ND needs to leave your conference.
goldendomer goldendomer OP
7mo
We are laying the groundwork for just that
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Stech
7mo
A lot of Big East schools want to merge with the ACC, might be a stand off.
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Big12 guy
7mo
If there is some sort of Big East/ACC merger, it will
be because the ACC is no longer a power football conference.
goldendomer goldendomer OP
7mo
Hello big 12
RTFC RTFC
7mo
and TT, UCF, WV and CIN vs UNC, Stanford, Duke and UVa
at least you'll be with teams that I associate with ND's integrity....
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Tailgate Guru
7mo
Enjoy Waco and Provo. Be sure to pack your beads.
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RandomAsianGuy
7mo
LOL!
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Stech
7mo
Or a new ACC Commissioner, if that happens 👏👏👏
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Big12 guy
7mo
I don't think that will happen, but a lot of strange things
are happening right before our eyes.