game that is a guaranteed win, revenue from ticket sales and the economic benefits to these college towns. Eugene and Oxford are small college towns and these games are a boon to their economies.

Other than Tulane.

against P4 opponents, 1 Pac-12 opponent, and 1 FCS opponent where they lost by more point to Oregon (home or away) than what JMU did last night. BTW that FCS opponent played yesterday in the NCAA DI Semi-final game too. The only reason you decided to single out Tulane is because you are allowing your bias to cloud your judgment. The reality is a lot of teams would have trouble with Oregon's pace and speed even before you factor in their home crowd which has built a reputation that is on par to Lane Stadium during the Terror Dome Era.

I believe Indiana, Ohio St, Georgia, Texas Tech, Miami, can for sure. I believe ND could too. There's no way anybody can say for sure Alabama, Oklahoma, or Mississippi couldn't hang with them. And that was a huge back door cover last night. Game over early in 2nd qtr. ** Edited by crazylane at 12/21/2025, 12:15:55 PM

could hang with Oregon because they will won't play Oregon in Autzen Stadium this season. Last night's game was the final game for the season. Now we will find out if Texas Tech can hang with Oregon in a neutral site game (Orange Bowl). If Oregon wins that game, then they get the winner of the Indiana/Alabama game in the CFA Peach Bowl 8 days later.

But just responding to a poster that said a lot of teams in the field would surely have gotten blown out by Oregon. That's also hypothetical and I disagree with it.

why aren't you complaining about those games? IF you want to change the rules so badly, then here is what you can do about it and it is quite simple. Get all 11 co-owners to agree to change the rules. Guess who the 11 co-owners are? ACC AAC Big Ten Big XII C-USA MAC MWC Pac-12 SEC Sun Belt Notre Dame Good luck!

Will be going to 16 teams. We have seen the one ad only time 2 g5 teams get in. Total fluke. There will be 15 p4 teams and the one g5 team when it goes to 16.

coming is any where all 11 co-owners approve it. End of discussion. No one, who wants to either limit the Gs to only 1 bid or get them out of the FBS Playoffs entirely, has provided any sort of plausible reason why a co-owner would agree to do something that is clear to everyone isn't in the owner's best interest and more importantly likely violates antitrust laws. If people really want to see the change occur, then they have to overcome those 2 obstacles. Otherwise, it is nothing more than wishful thinking on their part. As far as whether this year was a fluke or not, no one knows because this was only the second year of the 12-team playoffs. If you want to believe it is a fluke, then you believed a fluke happened 50% of the time (1 out of 2 times). I on the other hand will wait a few more years after more data has been collected before reaching any sort of conclusion. Particularly since there will probably be a lot more changes in the future which could directly impact the conclusion.

If i live another 50 years I won't see 2 g5 teams ranked ahead of a p4 conference champ. The odds of it happening this year had to be astronomical. Like I said before, leave it to the ACC. I did mention a change to 16 likely will be coming.

I have not seen anything to suggest all 11 co-owners are in favor of the idea especially the various proposals floating out that gives multiple guaranteed bids to the P2s and even the +2s (ACC and Big XII). Hence why ESPN extended the deadline until January to give the P2s more time to try to convince the rest of the owners to agree to change. If they don't agree to the change, then it remains in the current format of 12-teams with the 5 highest ranked conference champions receiving automatic bids until that contract expires.

Past history just more games, more money. Likely to happen. Also less chance of leaving out really good teams. And 16 is a great number for tournament brackets. I have seen talking heads wanting 24. Don't like that idea at all.

"There will be 15 p4 teams and the one g5 team when it goes to 16?" It doesn't sound like the Gs would benefit from the change because all that additional money would be going into the P2s' pockets. The only thing the P2s can offer the Gs to get them to agree to the change is to give them more slots in the expanded playoffs. However, you just said this year's playoffs was a fluke and it will never happen again in the next 50 years. So which will it be; the Gs get multiple bids in exchange for giving what the P2s what vs. the playoffs remains at 12 teams? Because the Gs are in the perfect position where they don't have to compromise and they would be foolish to give in unless the P2s and ESPN are giving them the moon.

I didn't say they g5 would agree to anything. I have said, numerous times, this will be the ONLY year 2 g5 teams get it. The odds of it happening are astronomical.

"There will be 15 p4 teams and the one g5 team when it goes to 16." That statement implies that it is a done deal and that the Gs agreed to the change because that is the only way the FBS Playoffs can go from the current format of 12 teams to 16 teams. You can't provide a plausible scenario where the same result is achieved without the support from the Gs.

Rose Bowl. So yeah, it happens. Bad thing here is the spotlight is on the the G5s, and they are failing miserably today. I have mixed feelings about it. In defense of JMU, they played a game last week, Oregon didn't. ** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 12/20/2025, 10:32:12 PM

the spotlight because it may truly want just a P2 playoff so it is trying to rally public support for the idea. First, by ditching the Gs. Then by ditching the ACC, Big XII, and Pac-12 when the P2s add the cream from that crop. What I am curious to see is how ESPN plans to pull this off while the 10 FBS conferences and Notre Dame are still co-owners. Does ESPN plan to fund the P2s so they can buyout the other conferences at various times? If not, then does the P2s plan to not renew its commitment to the current non-profit organization when the contract comes up for renewal? How does ESPN and P2s plan to avoid violating antitrust laws to achieve this goal?

That wants to limit the CFP to the P2. The SEC wants that. But the schools still want G5 teams to travel to their school to get throttled as a warm-up prior to their conference championship game. The ACC, AAC, big 12 and Notre Dame are all at the table and outnumber the P2. Nick Saban wants James Madison out. But as stated, the little guys all still have a seat at the table, and have anti-trust law backing them up. Question remains how the G5 fits in future CFP alignment.

Like it was thought it would always be.

repeat again EQUAL) co-owners of the CFP Administration, LLC, then the non-P2s will always (shall I repeat ALWAYS?) have a seat at the table. Now if the SEC wants to dissolve the CFP Administration, LLC, then all that is required is unanimous consent from the 11 co-owners (aka 10 FBS conferences and Notre Dame). How likely is that to happen if the SEC wants to remain in DI-FBS as it stands now? Here's a clue: you have better odds winning both MegaMillions and Powerball in the same week. If the SEC somehow gets its wish by some miracle, then it has the elephant in the room (aka antitrust lawsuits) waiting in the wings. Basically if the SEC and anyone else wants to exclude the Gs for whatever reason, then the only way that can happen is to form a brand new division level within the NCAA, leave the NCAA and join the NAIA, or leave the NCAA and form a brand new association. The SEC made its bed when it created the association to run the BCA, now it has to lay in it or go buy a brand new bed.