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GCHokie34 OP
Mar 05, 2024 at 11:26 PM ET
The win tonight...
Means VT clinches another winning season no matter what. A sad sad song for those who want to fire MY.

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marcbvtgm
.500 is not a high bar for a P5 team.
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GCHokie34 OP
No one said it was...
It's also not fireable
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marcbvtgm
Moving the goalposts. No offense, but you've been doing that a lot lately.
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GCHokie34 OP
I'm not sure you know what that means...
My original post said making it above .500 was detrimental to the hopes of those who wanted to fire him. I followed that up by saying .500 wasn't a fireable offense So maybe Google the term "moving the goalposts"
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GoldCoast
Low bar, a .500 record.
** Edited by GoldCoast at 3/6/2024, 11:21:20 AM
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GCHokie34 OP
He has the highest ACC win percentage of any VT coach in the ACC era...
That .500 bar is something no coach at VT has ever done so...
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marcbvtgm
Again, not a high bar. But if one drinks enough koolaid...
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2hhoop3
Any idea what the.....
conference win percentages for coaches at all the other ACC schools are?
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marcbvtgm
You mean the other 14 current coaches? All-time ACC coaches? Your point is?
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2hhoop3
The point is.....
that provides perspective on what may be a high, mediocre or low bar as far as performance. You can pick current coaches or all time coaches as both would provide perspective and might actually better inform your opinions.
Chris Coleman Chris Coleman
Yeah, I think Moir was the last coach to have a winning conference record.
62-48. And that was when we'd take somebody like Russell Pierre and get put on probation, haha. Greenberg: 68-76 (47.2%) Buzz: 44-46 (48.9%) Young: 44-48 (47.8%) Virginia Tech is the only school where Buzz Williams has not had a winning conference record (he's at 53.2% at A&M, and was at 63.9% at Marquette).
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VT ChemE 1986
Yup. There are some on this board who demand that we become
A perennial Top 25 team. That would be great, but those posters just assume it's all about the coach. A very uninformed philosophy.
MidloHokie MidloHokie
My question is: a .500 league record coupled with 20 total wins . .
going forward enough to allow CMY to retire @ VT?
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GCHokie34 OP
Unless you're a blue-blood...
It's enough to retire at any school
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2hhoop3
I think we all(or most).........
would be benefitted by a little more perspective on program performances. Aside from the blue bloods, it would be interesting to look at overall records, conference records, home versus away records, etc. to get a feeling for averages and where programs fit in those rankings. Couple that with VT's historical trends as a basketball program and I am guessing we find expectations outstrip actual realities in most people's minds. Throw in the actual resources devoted to the program and then you get a measure of the the true efficiency of the program. It is natural to have expectations and want more but, those expectations must be tempered with perspective and realistic assessments about what can be achieved with present resources and what increased level of commitment is needed to achieve higher desired levels coupled with a plan. My sense is for a very long time VT went without that thinking but, I think in more recent times that approach has become more commonplace. ** Edited by 2hhoop3 at 3/6/2024, 10:14:44 AM
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win-tech
I was optimistic going into this year (top 5 ACC, 6-10 seed in NCAAs)
Then Rodney Rice decided to transfer. My expectations dropped to mid-level ACC team, with an outside chance at making NCAA tourney. It looks like we will roughly meet those lowered expectations. Go Hokies!
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VT ChemE 1986
This!
MidloHokie MidloHokie
I tend to agree. Is the bar different for Kenny Brooks given the . . .
. . . fact the women's side of the league is tougher than the men's.
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GCHokie34 OP
I think if Kenny Brooks wins 20 games a year, he will retire a Hokie too
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2hhoop3
I think if people......
look at Brooks' record since 2005-2006, with the exception of the shortened COVID year, he has won 20 every year and often substantially more. Despite the murmuring of some message board geniuses you have to be able to coach a little to generate that level of winning and consistency.
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Vippie1
why always these straw man arguments?
"those" are one or two knuckleheads on the board out of hundreds. if everyone posted a "told you so" to every uninformed opinion ever posted on this board, it would be unreadable. ** Edited by Vippie1 at 3/6/2024, 7:51:16 AM
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2hhoop3
It is ......
more than one or two knuckleheads, the rest of your point notwithstanding.
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Hokie622
Agreed. It's more than two. The constant combativeness is annoying anway.
Reason to stop spending so much time on this board. Just not something I need to be around.
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HokiesACC2004
Take them for what it's worth, entertainment
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nkhooch
And it means we have a better ACC record than last year. Something I did
not expect.
YBYSAIAHokie YBYSAIAHokie
But last year, we beat UNC and Duke.
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ancient alien 2018
Fear not GC, the children will be back in eventually, expertly letting us
all know why CMY, and of course WB, should still be fired.
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HokieBrazil
If only he had played a Triangle and 2 Defense,we might be going to the F4
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ancient alien 2018
Please, don't remind us!! It just makes me even sadder and more depressed!!
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ombandit
Is that possible?