It just surfaced with the players failing to show up to play the ACC games. The ditch the ACC at all cost attitude of the FSU fan base echoing all across the internet may have had a lot to do with their attitude. Do the players read these message boards? I have heard the people that claim to be Razorback insiders over the years say the Hog players do read message boards. This does open up the ACC. With Clemson having a poor showing against Georgia, it looks like Miami is the early ACC powerhouse. Of course Georgia will make a lot of pretty good football teams look bad. However Virginia Tech has Clemson at home and goes to Miami. The road game to Miami looks like the big one. Virginia Tech winning both those games and just taking care of business with the weaker ACC gang would put Tech in the ACC Championship Game. Winning that ACCCG would put Tech in the new Playoff and Vandy would be long forgotten.

College football is moving towards the have's and have not's faster than ever before and the powers that be aren't even hiding it anymore. We are headed towards a playoff with 6 SEC schools and 6 B10 schools. To me, it's not a question of if, but when. The other leagues will be hoping for minor bowls as their reward. The only thing separating the present setup from what I'm laying out here is a couple 73-3 playoff games where ratings plummet into the toilet by halftime.

when your program is very focused on things other than games, nothing good happens

Not just this year, but most years moving forward. And I said this before Clemson and FSU got off to the dismal starts that they have.

I guess the Big XII could come up with a couple of decent teams.

in ACC championship gets an at large. A two loss team does not. Same with the B12. I'm in a conference of misfits, and chances are, a team that has never been invited to the playoffs before, will get a bid. Maybe 2. So the heck what if a 2 loss team from the SEC gets a bid. Heck, even a 3 loss team. I couldn't be more excited for the B12 teams, it's going to be a fun year.

GT looks good, but they'd have to win the conference. The rest are a bunch of 7-6 or 8-5 teams unless Clemson runs the table, but that UGA stomping won't go away. The only possibility I see is Clemson winning out and Miami going undefeated, and Clemson beats them in the ACCCG.

view, the ACC is a one bid conference this year.

flounder. Any loss by either is a good loss in my book.

Even the current AP poll is has the Top 10 as all B1G, SEC and ND. If that's the end result, then both the ACC and BigXII are single-bid conferences. FSU's snub last year is all we need to know about how the future would go if it comes down to an ACC team vs. a P2. ** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 9/4/2024, 11:26:27 AM

The B12 and ACC will get their conference champion into the playoff, along with one G5 conference champ, but the at large slots are going to the P2, with the SEC normally getting at least one more into the playoff than the B1X. Generally speaking, the only way the ACC or B12 gets an "at large" second team into the playoff is if they have one loss in the conference championship game.

"All the at large slots aren't reserved for the P2 and here's why its good that all the at large slots are reserved for the P2, peasants."

got 50% of the playoff spots, add ND, and they got 75% of the playoff spots. The P2 took almost all of the brands and playoff contenders, and ND takes the 2nd team from the ACC or the B12 every year that they are a contender. As a % off playoff spots, The P2 and ND will always get 50% to 75% of the playoff spots, that is a give in. A 2 loss ACC and B12 school would never have been considered before, yet here we are, complaining that our conferences will not get a 2 loss team into the playoffs. A LOT of the at large invites the B12 will receive, will depend on their OOC schedule, as the SEC and Big 10 will get their SOS from conference play. Who and how you lose to will determine any at large consideration, and of course the polls. I find it interesting that Miami has a quality win in the swamp, not an easy place to win, but they are not considered a top 10 team. If they go undefeated in the regular season, and lose in the conference championship game, they will be included as an at large. 2 losses, and they will be on the outside, looking in. Almost exactly as it has been in the past. "It's not fair" is an emotion, and there will be no level playing field moving forward. No different than the history of college football.

be making the playoffs. In basketball, some raise banners for making the final four. The smaller conferences raise banners for making the tournament. My point is, making the playoffs is the new bar for a successful season, successful coach, and building the ever elusive brand.

Vandy and a ticket to the ACC championship game. If the players were green and needed some experience I could follow your argument. However, in my opinion, that loss against Vandy was 100% on the coaching staff. They are not going to "improve". If they are not motivated enough to plan and execute an effective game plan with 8 months to prepare, they have no prayer of meeting the slate that is coming. ** Edited by VT ChemE 1986 at 9/3/2024, 2:40:15 PM