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INSIDE99 OP
May 08, 2024 at 12:35 PM ET
How much do college athletes deserve?
Possibly the biggest story in all of sports. Most people don't realize how much is already being spent on student-athletes, somewhere between $150K to $190K per student annually. That is $15.4 million per school, which is almost half of the yearly budget already. What I am curious to see is how Title IX fits in. Football and basketball players already demanding a larger portion of the revenue sharing pie. Crazy stuff going down. College sports as we knew it is long over. Think I'll buy me a football team. RECOMMENDED READ to grasp revenue sharing possibilities on the table. ** Edited by INSIDE99 at 5/8/2024, 12:36:24 PM

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VTCALS72
Remember one of the great Eastwood western lines from Unforgiven?
"Deserves got nothing to do with it." IMHO if the $150,000 to $200,000 figure is right, then that should be adequate compensation. If playing sports requires more of a student to require more than that, the rules should be changed to bring in back in line. Heck if that cuts out required work outs, spring practice of a whole host of other things, so be it. If that were done, the players would in no way be NFL ready but then again preparing them for the nfl is something the student players should have to pay for just like non athlete students pay to be prepared to enter their chosen careers. I know, I know you can't put the toothpaste back into the tube. But maybe we can. Lets let the P2 have whomever wants to be in the P2 then kick them out to form their own unionized employee subsidiary of the school while the rest of us return to sports being subjugated to academics. I can dream can't I?
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WarHog38
The $64 Question
A tuition free education was the answer for nearly a century. That was also a limitation that was to be strictly adhered to under NCAA regulation. Coaches and their staffs faced severe penalties for financial assistance beyond that education. I have no problem with athletes being paid a set salary. However they already get free food & free housing. Buying food and paying utilities is expensive. Athletes never have to foot any of those expenses but I think they should still be considered when setting a salary. I think about $500 a month is sufficient. You are talking about youngsters that as a rule do not spend money wisely anyway. I sure didn't when that age. However let's further analyze all this. Reading these articles, those at the helm of putting this all into action want far more that what I just allotted. I see the figure of 50% of what the university's sports revenue yearly intake as their ultimate goal. They want these mostly minor athletes wearing gold chains & driving sports cars. They already are doing that on NIL to some percentage of them. Or they going to dump NIL? I doubt that. Who finances college sports? It is not ESPN. It is John Q. Public. When they piss off JQP until he or she will not buy game tickets or pay to watch ESPN or even watch college sports. College sports are dead as a door nail. That is sadly coming.
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33laszlo99
Same as everyone else; whatever they can acquire legally.
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ren_hoek
I've had misgivings about college athletics for several years now
It has become a huge revenue bonanza in which TV executives, administrators, and others get filthy rich. Nothing wrong with that, but the players seem woefully underpaid, even with free tuition and board. It just felt exploitive, and I say that as one who leans way right.
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VPI 1924
Answer.
No more than any other student on campus
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HokiesACC2004
Do those students contribute in generating revenue?
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VPI 1924
Yes
By paying outrageous tuition
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Big12 guy
And borrowing money to do it.
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Stech
Scholarships are few for many Men's sports even at the P4 level, many don't
get much if any money. For many Men if they have great grades, they can get more money from a D3, but sometimes ego gets in the way. Many parents think of scholarships like they are for football and basketball, with many Men's sports they don't get much money. My question is, if you aren't on Athletic Scholarship, will they need to pay them too? If so, I see a lot of sports being cut, and that would be terrible IMHO.
PadrosWindup PadrosWindup
baseball gets 12 scholarships to split among 25 to 30 players
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Hokie1992
Here is the breakdown
D1 schools typically have 400-600 scholarship athletes. A big question will be how Title IX plays into the equation. Because football has 85 scholarships that has to be matched in women’s sports, women’s non-rev sports make out better then men’s do.
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Stech
True, and that’s at the top of most Olympic Sports, many get much less.
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VPI 1924
Start
With cutting football and basketball.
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Stech
I understand your sentiment, but 🏈 makes 80% of the money, and 🏀 20%.
Personally, I love them all, more Fortune 500 companies are run by Captains of Sports teams, than Valedictorians. That’s the impact of Sports.
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INSIDE99 OP
What got lost
in American society concerning athletes getting paid was how expensive the world got. Power conference colleges are already spending at least $150K per student in the usual old-fashioned way. Send a child to college and find out. Tuition, room & board, medical expenses alone and athletes get far more including equipment, facilities, etc.
HokieAl HokieAl
Does the athletic department literally pay the school the standard rate?
I honestly have no idea how money is exchanged between the athletic department and the university. It is just normal straight accounting using the standard in state and out of state tuition rates? Or do they have other methods for calculating the cost to the athletic department and moving the money to the University? I don't know how to frame the question appropriately so hopefully that makes sense what I'm trying to ask.
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WarHog38
They Are Independent at Arkansas
Two separate entities money wise at the University of Arkansas. The academic side of the University is funded by the state and by the student tuition. The Athletic Department cannot be state funded, it must survive off ticket income, SEC revenue.& private donations. I remember Broyles saying that. I know nothing about the national normal on the subject.
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Big12 guy
Most, if not all public schools have the same model. The athletic
department pays the school the tuition of the scholarships that are offered. In most FBS public Universities, the academic side does not pay the athletic scholarships, they receive money from the athletic department. Each state can be a bit different, and I'm sure there are exceptions, but that is the general rule. if VT doesn't get an invite to the P2, could they change that model, and get support from the academic side to pay for those scholarships? It's usually the top expense of an athletic department, and could help those not in the P2 to be competitive financially.
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WarHog38
That Probably is an Alternative
With all this change. Just make the Athletic Departments at universities all state or government supported to monetarily fund all this spending on athletes. It can be just like the welfare system. Probably the end game of the left wing thinking behind all this.
PadrosWindup PadrosWindup
Pretty much. Some athletic departments push the academic to side to count
All scholarship athletes as in state. Cash saved by the athletic department, cash lost by the academic side
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Stech
Yep, I know exactly what you are talking about.
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Stech
Some how it got posted twice
** Edited by Stech at 5/8/2024, 1:09:23 PM