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OrlandoHokie OP
Nov 16, 2023 at 10:25 PM ET
So FSU is already scheduling like they are in the SEC playing North Alabama
The week before rivalry game with Florida.

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HOO86
Seems FSU & Clemson have done this for a while
They schedule these warm up games before the SEC rival. Alabama or Florida started it.
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ren_hoek
Clemson did the same thing scheduling UNC before the Gamechickens
Yeah, I went there, and this post may indeed age poorly.
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tarheelblue
Clemson is favored by 7.5 points.
reestuart reestuart
SEC & ACC need to go to 9 conference games. These games are stupid.
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon
Call me greedy, but I want 10 conference games.
5 home, 5 away. Cut the crap, and let's go!
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EDGEMAN
I'm happy going to 9 now...maybe the scheduling will have F$U visit VT?
LOL! Nope, we know it will mean VT will travel there 4+ times in a row.
MrBayAreaHokie MrBayAreaHokie
Me too…4 OOC games allows cupcake games
1 cupcake game and 1 legit OOC game seems right to me. Schools like, Clemson and South Carolina would cry about this, but they don’t have to play each other every year if they don’t want to.
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tarheelblue
When ESPN is willing to pay more $ for a 9th conference game it will happen
** Edited by tarheelblue at 11/17/2023, 5:15:28 PM
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Mercury
exactly and GT Lville, FSU and Clemson do not want 9 games
if that happened, just force FSU and clemson further away
reestuart reestuart
I can't believe they haven't demanded it. That SEC schedule this weekend
is complete garbage. ACC's is better, but the ACC's early season slate is where it looks ugly.
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Big12 guy
Read an article today than an undefeated FSU may not make the playoffs. If
bama beats Georgia in the SEC championship, then it's georgia and bama both getting invites, then you have the Michigan Ohio State winner, and if Washington beats Oregon state and Oregon in the PAC championship, the strength of schedule will push them ahead of FSU. FSU played some good names, but Clemson, Miami, LSU and Florida are all having down years.
reestuart reestuart
I think FSU is plenty safe. UF and LSU OOC is plenty.
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tarheelblue
Washington won't get in ahead of FSU.
The selection committee won't pick a school from a dead conference if they don't have to.
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RJHokie
I’m hoping Georgia kicks Alabama to oblivion.
Ditto for the winner of the McChicken/Bucknuts game.
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Big12 guy
Can all of the schools you listed lose? That is what I hope for.
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RJHokie
Not this week……
But maybe next week…..
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FLKEYSHOKIE
That would be great, my thoughts precisely !
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
The problem with 9 conference games is it limits a team's OOC game options
in the year with 5 away conference games because most (big name?) teams are now playing 7 home games every year for financial reasons. FWIW that was the reason Auburn gave for cancelling its home-home series with VT because Auburn would have only played 6 home games the season it would have played at VT.
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HOO86
You're right. It does.
But I'd rather be playing conference games. We like these conference members well enough to bring them here. So I say play them. I know scheduling games that involve buses rather than planes saves travel, but I prefer the conference games. They didn't ask me though.
reestuart reestuart
Big Ten seems to manage it. Same with P12 (RIP) and Big XII. ACC & SEC are
the only P5 that won't do it. They need to get over it.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
If you look at the top Big Ten teams, then you will see most (maybe all)
will only play 1 away/neutral site game in the year with 4 away conference games and 0 away/neutral game in the year with 5 away conference games. For example, Iowa played 5 away conference games in 2022. Its OOC schedule (all home games) was the following: South Dakota St, Iowa St, and Nevada. If I looked through Iowa's past schedules, then I suspect I would not find a season where Iowa played 2 OOC games against P5 opponents. That could be a problem given the ACC's scheduling requirement with Notre Dame and 4 members have annual OOC games against SEC opponents. If you look at VT's future OOC schedule through 2035, then VT scheduled to play 2 P5s opponents every season except 2026 and 2031 (as of right now). I doubt you would find too many ADs who would be willing to trade the extra P5 opponent for an extra conference game. At least I don't think too many ADs would trade away a money game for an extra conference game and keep the 2 P5 opponents now that the CFP is expanding to 12 teams. USC might be the only team who opted to schedule 3 P5 opponents in the same season (see examples below). 2008: at UVA, Ohio St, Notre Dame 2010: UVA, at Minn, Notre Dame 2011: Minn, Syracuse, at Notre Dame If fans want to see their teams play more quality OOC games, then someone will need to figure out a way to increase the incentive enough so ADs are more willing to take on the additional risk.
reestuart reestuart
ACC and SEC aren't playing 2 OOC P5 opponents. Many don't play 1.
Again. The ACC and SEC are the only conferences that can't figure it out. They blame it on the 3 in state rivalry games. That's hogwash.
mrcaniac mrcaniac
Big10 teams don't play more than 1 P4 OOC game
Purdue is the only one with 2 in a season scheduled for the next 5-6 years. In the ACC, almost every school has at least 2 P4 schools scheduled each year for the next 5-6 years. Yes, there are some FCS and G5 schools scheduled, but most of the SEC. Big XII, and Big10 also have FCS/G5 schools making up games 11 and 12. Network talking heads may ***** about it, but the network honchos love those games because they add more inventory for them. On Sept 9, Disney had 14 games in their ACC inventory because everyone is play OOC. On October 14, Disney had 5 games total in their ACC inventory because teams were playing in conference and had byes. The only way to add inventory is to expand the conference, or add OOC games.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
Every ACC and SEC team is required to schedule at least 1 OOC game against
a P5 opponent each season. "However, in a twist focused on improving strength of schedule, the SEC will begin mandating that each program incorporate an annual nonconference game against a power conference team starting in 2016." There is some variation among the power conferences as to which schools fulfill that requirement. ACC: BYU, Notre Dame, and all P5 members Big Ten: Army, BYU, Navy, Notre Dame, and all P5 members Big XII: Army, BYU, Notre Dame, and all P5 members Pac-12: No scheduling agreement SEC: Army, BYU, Notre Dame, and all P5 members
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daveinop
BC 2023 ooc: Northern IL, Holy Cross, Army, UConn
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
I guess the ACC considers Army on that list too even though I can't find
an article to confirm it. I did find an article where James Phillips said he wanted the members to only play away games at P5 schools and Army. If the ACC didn't consider Army as an acceptable fulfillment of that requirement, then I am not sure why he would have included them in the statement.
mrcaniac mrcaniac
BC was supposed to play Ohio State this year and next
But the games got moved to 2036-36 back in 2022, so there probably wasn't a P5 school available. They have 2 P4 games a season starting next season.
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EDGEMAN
LOL!
So true.
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HokiesACC2004
Seems to be an SEC thing