Saturday Down South says SEC will stop at 16
Says the Presidents do not have the appetite to expand beyond 16 and feel they are well positioned for a robust future.
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RiverVT
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Do we have the Leadership to transform an Athletic program that Conference Realignment decision makers want? Or do we go to the SUN BELT with ECU, JMU , ODU. We have been sleeping over the last 7 years. Will we wake up .
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VTCALS72
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Would it be waking up for the VT fan base to pony up many more million per year? Seems to me that we really can't do one thing to sufficiently add $$$$ to existing league members in the P2.
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Vippie1
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to take another school anytime soon not named ND.
In better words fear of the other guy getting into a certain market is the only thing that could compel them to add more .
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and taking a strong piece of the DC market
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HOO86
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I was not getting the impression that either are looking to add a lot of more teams at this point. This is based on all the tweets floating out there.
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Sure you add this market and that one but that’s 3-4 more teams to split the pot with
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After the Oregon-Washington rumors to the B1G...
died down, it seems like the B1G is done for now and that Notre Dame can probably keep their valued football independent status until 2036. I'm sure most Notre Dame fans are very happy with that.
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HOO86
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We'll all have the kabuki dance once again when the B1G does this again in about 7 years though. I expect the B1G deal to be for another 7 years or so. The SEC has already closed its deal for a while. If the Big XII and PAC 12 without their big brands find out their deals will be below the ACC, we'll probably be receiving calls. I hope Jim Phillips gets ahead of this.
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They would take UNC tomorrow is they asked to come.
This statement probably means they are just waiting for the ACC to break up. Maybe not until 2036.
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to bring us to 16, assuming those schools want in. Cincinnati would be good for opening the Ohio door for TV subs. UCF would be good for having a solid fan / alumni base. ND isn't going to be 15 or 16 for football, and the GOR realistically won't be challenged until 10 years or more. I would think a westward shifting Big12 won't be too appealing for the east coast schools.
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Given that all conferences make more money in states when a member is located in the state than a state with no members in it, then the ACC could see a bump in pay if it has a member in the state of Ohio. Now of course that assumes the footprint model still has some value from a contractual standpoint.
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add Texas Tech and Stanford to get Notre Dame. Calfiornia and Texas market
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member. So once you accept that as a fact, then you have to ask yourself does it make sense for the ACC to only add 1 CA school? WRT Texas Tech, Lubbock is located in the northwest part of the state and unfortunately the western part of the state (aka Lubbock and El Paso) really have no value when it comes to the "Texas Market." Where Texas gets its value is in the eastern to central part of the state (i.e. Houston, Dallas/Fort Worth, San Antonio, Austin, etc). So if the ACC is going to add any Texas schools to the conference, then it will come from that part of the state particularly when you start to factor in travel to and from the city. Plus, if the ACC is going to add any schools from California and/or Texas, then it will want to add at least 2 schools from said state for travel reasons (think all the non-revenue sports that the ACC sponsors).
Plus, if by some miracle Notre Dame did decide to join the ACC as a football member, then the ACC would have 17 football schools if you include Texas Tech and Stanford. Mathematically is it possible for 17 schools to play an 8 game conference schedule, 9 game conference schedule, or even a 10 game conference schedule? If it isn't possible, then the ACC would need to add at least an 18th football member to where it would be mathematically possible.
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804Hokie
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and its adding two loyal fanbases, which ACC needs more of. Cincy, WVU, Pitt, Louisville, VT, some solid regional matchups there.
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13HOKIE
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Added them a long time ago. Academic snobbery has held the ACC back from making moves that they should have done a long time ago
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I have no idea. Most fans would love to be in the ACC (if Pitt and VT are in it).
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Because when their GOR ends in 2036 several teams will be moving on.
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I doubt it takes that long if so. Either ACC goes under or it pulls off a surprise. I don't think many wait til 2036
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WVU for football
Kansas for basketball
Those two are the best options to get to 16, boost basketball value, and stay close to existing footprint
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Kansas can ask WVU how it felt to be on a distant island.
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But image what USC and UCLA are going to deal with? I guess they can just be happy counting all that money.
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At least they have each other
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EDGEMAN
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...with a fanbase that buys tickets. UCONN is not what the ACC needs. BC has more upside than UCONN.
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Navy doesn't have the revenue sport wow factor, but that would get the ACC back in Maryland, turn the Army-Navy game into a ACC revenue generating game every other year, and they seem willing to move their home games vs. ND to Houston, San Diego every so often. ESPN could squeeze TX and CA subs for a little more because of that.
Getting a #16 that's not ND and without stepping too far away is a challenge for sure. WVU seems like a logical fit given where the footprint has grown, and I want VT to play them annually again.
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