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Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie OP
May 12, 2023 at 11:52 AM ET
Played 18 in 2 hours, 2 mins today...with a pair of 75 year olds
And I shot a net 68. They play at 7:04 pretty much every morning (1 of them played almost 300 rounds last year). Most amazing was that it was never rushed and lots of conversation throughout. Just shows that golf does not need to take 5 hours to play, play ready - golf and quit spending 5 mins lining up shots you're gonna mis-hit anyway. (it's OK to suck, it's not OK to take forever to do it).

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KfgsHokie
I used to play Westfields in Clifton after work on Wednesdays years ago,
We'd start at 5:30 and be done right around dusk about 3 hours later.
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LRC-Hokie01
Played 18 at Reston National last Saturday and it took just over 5 hours...
brutal! but last Friday night got in a quick 9 - 1 hour 15 min! I guess it helps that we played at 7pm!
capitals1 capitals1
Is why I quit golf 12 years ago..5 hour rounds
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GreenvilleVT
I’d quit golf if it took 5 hours a round.
Frankly 4 hr 15 min is the limit. Anything more than that and you are having to wait too long.
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2hhoop3
Played in a state.....
tournament many, many moons ago at Reston National. First tee time on first day and four of us(all walking) played in three hours. The real kicker was only 2 of the 4 had ever played the course before that day. The other 2(including me) had walked the course the previous day.
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BRVT
reston national has always been a 5-6 hour round for as long as i remember
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Happy Dog
That's one of the reasons I quit playing
Used to play Reston National, Centennial, Falls Road, Red Gate, etc. quite often until it just became a 5-6 hour ordeal and no reason for it. Absolutely ridiculous.
HokieJay HokieJay
Used to do that years ago. Had the 1st tee time every Saturday all summer.
2-2.5 hours an round, back home before the wife was awake. Only way to play.
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2hhoop3
Dad's first rule......
when teaching us the game was if you cannot be good at least be fast. My regular group in younger days generally played 18 in 2:45-3 with everyone walking. With Vienna in your username I am guessing NOVA. Have never played a fast round in NOVA or Tidewater but, a few in Richmond and other Virginia locales.
Tafkam Hokie Tafkam Hokie
My issue is that when you aren't good, being fast is a lot harder
One of the reasons I gave up the game was searching for my ball wasn't any fun, and I was spending an awful lot of time doing that. Once I found the ball, I rarely dithered. I don't think I ever spent more than 1-2 minutes figuring out distance, picking a club, tacking a practice swing or two, and then hitting the ball. But that "once I found the ball" part was rarely as simple as it sounds.
PhotoHokieNC PhotoHokieNC
Quitting golf was so satisfying to me I did it twice. Last time in 1984.
Sayonara cash suck ...
Tafkam Hokie Tafkam Hokie
I gave it up around Y2K. Primarily because I had a bad disk in my neck
and if I ever chunked a swing (which wasn't uncommon), I'd be in pain for days. So I quit more for medical reasons than anything. But hunting for my ball was the part of my game I hated the most, and it sure felt like it's what I spent the majority of my time doing. I wasn't truly horrible at the game...I tended to shot in low 90's and maybe upper 80's on a good day. But I could slice a tee shot with the best of them. And that usually meant a 15 minute delay as we sent out the search party for my ball.
Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie OP
Played a lot as a youngster, a bit as a young adult, none as a Dad
sent my youngest off to college and moved to a golf community and it seemed stupid not to join the club because of the price for residents. And if I'm gonna pay a monthly fee, I might as well get value for it, and the more I played the more people I met and the more people I met, the more I played...Doesn't hurt that my club has been described on Yelp as a golf course attached to a Frat House....even in college I never drank as much before 9am as I do on weekends now. Last Apr I joined our men's league, started playing a lot (3-4 rounds a week), got my handicap down to 14, got fitted for new clubs to replace the 30 year old Tommy Armor knockoffs I had and spent the winter trying to relearn the game with clubs that worked. Then of course, warm weather came and what I thought I had figured out...NOPE. Good news, handicap up, weekly pots are always handicap based and I'm up about $100 this year already. Clubs are getting dialed in.... Got a new job where a lot of my team is on the west coast, so getting out in the morning with guys that play in a couple hours is doable. For someone that's not retired, I got it pretty good. I'm pretty much addicted at this point.
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2hhoop3
Playing as a dad......
provides all sorts of possibilities for the whole family, some good, some not so good. Also, a potentially useful skill for both personal and business in later life but, can be very humbling when they begin to beat you with regularity. ;-)
Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie OP
Last year I started beating my Dad, big deal when I had to give him strokes
Son knows the rules, knows how to get around the course, just can't hit the ball. Can hit an 85mph breaking ball 350 ft, but can't hit a golfball sitting still...SMH
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2hhoop3
I relayed earlier.....
dad's first rule. When he started to teach my brother and I he told us golf had a thick rulebook we should read and understand. He then told us there were a number of unwritten rules we would learn as we played the game more. Then he said, I am going to give you the two rules you should never forget. Be fast was the first and the second was no matter how bad you may play things usually work out if you always play 9 and 18 well. Both the 2 rules have proved their worth many times over the years. ;-)
BG Hokie BG Hokie
Finding balls is a skill of it's own. I've lost a number of decently hit
balls in the rough simply because I couldn't landmark accurately. My dad, with his experience, was really good at picking out landmarks and pinpointing where the balls were...
Tafkam Hokie Tafkam Hokie
Pretty common for me to either lose it in the sun, or the ball
camouflages itself against a cloud in the background and I utterly lose sight of it in the air. There was an awful lot of blind guessing where the ball might be. If I knew where it was within maybe 10 yards square, it was never a problem. But I was frequently searching over an area that was about an acre (of woods/rough no less) where it might be. Golf is very difficult to enjoy when you are bad at it, and very difficult to get good at it when you don't enjoy it.
MP4VT2004 MP4VT2004
Must be nice to be a pro and have spotters flag your ball for you each shot
Tafkam Hokie Tafkam Hokie
I'd settle for a GPS transmitter and an app for my phone
If you could get GPS enabled golf balls (or bluetooth, or even some kind of RFID transmitter) and an app that would locate the ball within maybe 3 square yards, that would be a godsend for hackers everywhere.
Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie OP
we have a hole that you can barely see the ball land
short is a marsh, left is marsh, long is marsh...right is another tee and some marsh.... Hit a ball, looks perfect but nope, no clue. RFID or a camera overlooking the green would be so nice to know wtf happened
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GreenvilleVT
1-2 minutes? That’s a long time once you find your ball.
Should be 45 seconds or less.
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2hhoop3
I get it......
but, most golfers, at least in my experience, allow for difference in playing ability level and are not impatient. What frustrates is the guy that plays like Jack the Ripper that thinks he is Jack Nicklaus. Looking for balls is not an issue, IMO, as long as time is adhered to and you are in the generally correct area. Nothing is more frustrating than a guy who does not properly spot his shot or disputes his playing group who did properly spot it.
Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie OP
"Here ya go it's back here" yelling from 50 yds behind where he's looking
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2hhoop3
Ain't it the truth!.....
However, I will admit even a good pair of eyes and landmarks skills is no match for the falling leaf cover, why I hated to and only rarely played in the fall. Really Memorial Day to Labor Day but, that also had to do with the sting to the hands of a poorly struck shot in cooler weather. Kids that have never played with blades will not have as great an appreciation of that. ;-)
Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie OP
That's what the leaf rule is for
and why I walk the pond behind my house each Sunday and keep a big bin of balls in the garage. Once the leaves and cold weather hit, I stop using good balls and don't spend more than 30 secs looking for a ball into the leaves. Drop and go.
Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie OP
best zinger I heard last year on the course....
club championship, 45 mins between a group and the group behind them. One of the guys in the slow group spends 7 mins setting up his approach shot on 18, hits it to within about 15 feet (guy shot a 98 and that was the norm for the round). George calls over to him, "Good shot, not 15 mins good, but good".
HokieDan95 HokieDan95
judge Smails said it best...........
** Edited by HokieDan95 at 5/12/2023, 1:46:52 PM
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GreenvilleVT
We have a guy at our club who is bad and painfully slow
He is over the ball almost 30 seconds even after a painful pre shot routine. One guy he was partners with recently asked him “name something you don’t think about before you hit the ball. “ Once someone told him “my sex takes less time than your golf shots”.
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2hhoop3
The situation you relay......
is clearly a case of poor training. If he's the guy riding a cart he is probably also the guy who walks back and forth across the fairway (when cart paths only) trying to decide on a club to hit. A guy like that just needs tough love from his golfing friends. My regular group was 4/5/sometimes 6 or more but, even with 6 walking we were always around 3 hours tops. When we got a new person who joined they got a break in period to adjust their speed of play, if they didn't they got some "good natured tips", if it still persisted they were "encouraged" to maybe find a different group. That did not happen very long or often as the fast play rep was known in the club.
Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie OP
I'm in Smithfield, play at Cypress Creek
when I lived in NoVA, no, playing a fast round was rare. Weekends are bad here, but I play in the club men's group and we have the first tee times every Sat and Sun reserved, so a normal weekend round for us is around 3 (unless you're playing with a couple of guys, who we always make play in our last group).
DoYouLiftHokies DoYouLiftHokies
Cool...I live nearby and am playing in a tourney there on next Friday
Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie OP
I'm playing in that too. I play golf with Mike a lot
DoYouLiftHokies DoYouLiftHokies
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HokieJay HokieJay
Damn good rule.
vthokieq vthokieq
What is a “net 68” compared to just shooting a 68?
HokieJay HokieJay
Adjusted for handicap
vthokieq vthokieq
So if he has a 25 handicap...he really shot a 93?
Kinda like hooking up with a 5 at the bar...but telling your buddies the next day she was a net 9 (beer goggle adjusted scoring). ;-) ** Edited by vthokieq at 5/12/2023, 12:22:12 PM
Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie OP
I'm a 17 handicap, and I shot an 85
which means tomorrow I'll probably be a 16 (handicap is based on your best 8 scores out of the last 20, so a 93 is going to get replaced with an 85).
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2hhoop3
Yep......
although if that is his handicap and gross score, the 2 hour 2 minute round time is even more impressive.
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EDGEMAN
Congrats. One question, what is a "net" 68?
Does that mean you shot a 86, but deducted one stroke per hole for the heat?
Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie OP
no, deducted 17 strokes for the suck :)
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VToncologyNurse
Question is, where was the round?
chumley chumley
…mix in some baba booey’s
just for laughs
Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie OP
you'd get your a$$ kicked for saying that
HokieJay HokieJay
"Clutch, Mother Zilch"
Dan Jenkins fans may remember this, as linked below. My favorite "in swing" words of all time. If you've never read Jenkins before, this is your chance. Then go out and buy the best golf novel ever written, "Dead Solid Perfect". You can thank me when you see me.
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2hhoop3
Jenkins' story......
never gets old even going on 60 and "Dead Solid Perfect" is a good read as well. Golf is a game with plenty of stories, some even true.
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darnellm
That's Awesome