Almost makes you wonder if the $229 million dollar increase...
Was a lie to begin with...
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1mo
recruiting class. It's all very exciting, don't you think?
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1mo
I hear due to the increase in funds theyre going to get 3 offensive linemen, a tight end and a sled dummy
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1mo
so cranky all the time? Lol. Lighten up. Things are good. Fundraising is improving, the football team is on a great trajectory. If you would simply accept that basketball will never be the top priority at VT, you could stop being so miserable.
Have a great day!
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1mo
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1mo
That leads to the obvious conclusion that you’re bitter.
It’s like a member of the VT staff or athletic department stole your lunch money and your girlfriend.
Don’t get me wrong, your bitterness is sort of entertaining — and we can all see that football investment and success is killing you.
But I look forward to your deep insights about the basketball program! 🏀👍
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1mo
I hope they go 12-0, 16-0 and never lose a game from now until an asteroid takes us all out.
I went to every home football game every year I was at VT and most bowl games. Ive been to far more football games as a spectator since graduation than basketball.
Justin Fuente, Brent Pry et al have done nothing personal to me. Played flag football for years with a former VT football player and would trust him with my son's life. Genuinely nothing but positive interactions with anyone ever associated with VT football.
What I have always been incredulous about is that VT has continually funneled money to a failing football program under the same guise now as it was 20 years ago...that somehow it will generate money for basketball. Thats simply not reality.
To add on to that, its one thing to not drive funds to the basketball program...I think its shortsighted in terms of dollar growth, but its at least a defensible decision.
What ISNT defensible is actively taking resources FROM basketball (the only pther sport with any ability to generate revenue) to prop up a football program that has done literally nothing with the increased resources and actively went backwards. It isnt sound financially, it isnt sound strategically but most importantly it isnt sound logically.
As far as enjoying football success...are we counting a Spring Game as a win? Is football season here and I dont know it?
There was optimism around both Fuente and Pry (even touting Pry's bulge in his pants as some omen he will be a good coach)...Fuente even won some games early on
James Franklin has zero wins. And even though I share the optimism that hes definitely the guy for the job, I dont think the basketball funds taken would move the needle either way for a team who hopefully will win more than they lose but wont be a national player (which is expected in year 1 of course)
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1mo
So glad to hear about your flag football experiences.
The football successes are on the recruiting trail. Obviously it’s too early to know what the results will be in the wins column. But mediate results and momentum in recruiting and fundraising is the reality with Franklin.
I would venture to guess Franklin’s presence is at least partially responsible for the soon-to-be-announced $50M gift that has been mentioned.
I’m not sure why it’s indefensible to take money from basketball to further fund football. You’ve tried to make a financial argument but the argument isn’t compelling.
So it comes across as just sour grapes by a bball fan who has a preference for basketball funding rather than football funding. And that preference is consistently expressed through snark about most things related to football.
But I’m glad I’ve misinterpreted your comments and that you’re actually supportive of football. :)
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1mo
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1mo
football and it's new funding. imho, he's pointing out the quixotic nature of MBB funding under Whit and his Minions. Two years ago was an excellent example, and it looks like (from what I read on here), that amounts promised were reduced, with little or no explanation. I agreed with his snarky post, supra, and gave it a +1. And, I think it was quite nuanced in its approach. You "football funding at all costs" guys are pretty shortsighted when it comes to the 2nd biggest sport at VT (and most schools). You're probably the same guys who will rag on CMY when he doesn't win an ACC championship with the reduction in funding, and will have "convenient memory" about this funding when MBB finishes in the middle of the pack.
Good for GC!
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2mo
It sounds like Year 1 is spoken for, but the Hokie Club has its work cut out for the subsequent years.
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2mo
right. None of us (on this board, at least) really know about the money. And, because of a lack of transparency and communication over the last several years, trust in our "leadership" has become shaky.
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2mo
I almost think you hate VT, always looking to put someone down to prove your narrative in your own mind. Part of executing a plan is to know your Goals.
** Edited by VT Pez4Life at 5/29/2026, 9:26:28 AM
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2mo
"We have a fundraising goal of $229 million" and "we have $229 million" are two very different things
Hope this helps
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2mo
It's a 229M total investment involving a mix of internal and external funding mechanisms...and one of those is a philanthropic goal of $30M/yr. from donors
Hope that helps
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2mo
Hope this helps
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2mo
Hope it helps but this is not my first rodeo and we are all aware that once you lock into a narrative, you will die defending it regardless of evidence to the contrary...so keep on keeping on. Not going to spend my beautiful Sunday in yet another snark-off with you.
It's not a lie.
It's not a 229M fundraising goal.
It involves a ton of internal university accounting mechanisms that require the participation of many people who would never put their careers on the line for athletics...much less a lie to support athletics.
Completely fair to be skeptical of the plan and have questions about the ability to implement and sustain it...or about the priorities and ways it's distributed (I bet you and I even AGREE on the distribution part) ...but it's BS to imply it's a lie especially while citing "fundraising goals" that never existed.
Enjoy your afternoon.
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2mo
1) We were told there was a 229 million increase in athletic department funds
2) Basketball was told they had X dollars in their budget for 26-27
3) Oopsies...basketball no longer has that amount
4) Rector is removed citing malfeasance
Me: "Almost makes you think the $229 million was a lie"
The logic follows. They either didn't have what they said they have or theyre actively funneling funds away from programs after telling them differently when the money was announced. Youre more than welcome to pick which of those you believe, but its the only two options at play
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2mo
What’s your post referring to?
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2mo
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2mo
there certainly wasn't a lot of clarity about where the money was coming from to begin with. But yes, I, too, wonder if the numbers are what they say they are.
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2mo
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2mo
It was more of an offhand comment than anything. Part of me will continue to be somewhat skeptical of the money aspect until it actually comes to fruition and stuff starts to happen with it — more than the videoboard and LEDs in Lane.
VT hasn't done a good job of explaining things over the last handful of years. Never really explained where the money for the $229M would come from outside of "philanthropy." Don't necessarily doubt that it won't get it, but I wonder if they're entirely truthful of how they've gone about it, how much they have, etc. It's been a lot of talk, and they're finally starting to do some stuff with it, but there's been reason to doubt some parts of it as well.
In the end, I think it'll be fine, but they completely botched the rollout and explanation around it.
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2mo
on that now.
** Edited by HokieDelNorte at 6/1/2026, 7:08:00 AM
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2mo
Not saying the messaging couldn't have been or still be improved but if today's news tells us anything it's that sometimes it's really hard for people to "get" how universities function behind the scenes. And there was no math involved in today's exercise.
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2mo
is especially so.
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2mo
and direct fundraising in a slightly different, more behind the scenes, direction. JMO obviously.
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2mo
…that” or “it’s crazy out there, how can we compete?” should hopefully die. At least we should see action where BOV and AD (in whatever final form) tries.
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2mo
** Edited by KCHokie2 at 5/28/2026, 9:05:29 PM
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** Edited by HOKIE at 5/29/2026, 9:38:56 AM
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** Edited by KCHokie2 at 5/28/2026, 7:01:06 PM
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1mo
If you are bummed about the UVA-N.C. State game falling through? 😊
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1mo
there. No one in Brazil would be excited about it, it would have been a bust. NFL has exploded in popularity over there, but not sure why they thought College Football especially with 2 mediocre programs would work.
I wonder if the 10 Hoos who bought their airline tickets and booked their hotels can sue whoever organized that joke
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1mo
11.
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2mo
Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates, Rico Gathers, Allen Iverson, and Charlie Ward are the starters.
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