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MidloHokie MidloHokie OP
Mar 30, 2026 at 05:15 PM ET
OK. I'm going there. I think VT should consider scrapping baseball and . .
. . . converting that facility to softball. Baseball is among the biggest $$ losers for most D1schools. Large rosters, overpaid coaches, and no real income. We are already a consistent top 25 softball program. Not sure we could ever win a national championship but getting to OKC is certainly a possibility with some more commitment. Now I'm ducking.

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Hokebury Hokebury
4mo
We have a storied history in baseball. Granted its been awhile, but we
used to be quite good in the past. I'd hate to see that happen.
sacramento hokie sacramento hokie
4mo
You know I won’t like this being a baseball guy
However I totally understand your logic… there are simply only x dollars to go around and I posted abut this very subject yesterday… we need to do some non revenue sports pruning but which sports is a whole other complex subject ** Edited by sacramento hokie at 3/31/2026, 11:38:23 AM
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nkhooch
4mo
Interesting - baseball a bigger loser than other non-revenue sports?
I don't know enough to disagree and your points make sense, but is that really true? What about TV revenues? Maybe someone has data on that.
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william floyd
4mo
Virginia Tech softball program.
Our softball program is successful beyond what it was before our new coach. It is consistent. We had a relatively successful program before our present coach, but nothing like we have now. We are a Top Twenty program in winning now, and often reach a higher ranking, as this season is an example. However, and remember that I am a loyal supporter of this program, there is a limit to how far this program can reach without major financial support, and that support is not there from the athletic program. And it does not seem like there will be the needed support from the athletic program any time soon, if at all, which is what it seems like at this time. We all know that fact is true. We may not be able to reach the financial support that the Texas teams have with big oil and cattle money, but we should try to reach as high as possible, and the athletic department is not going to help that situation. There is an opportunity for our softball program to be even more successful, and we do not need to let the opportunity pass by us, but the financial support needs to be there, and it is going to have to be there from softball supporters. Some of you on here have good comments regularly and know a lot about softball. Your comments and suggestions on our softball program are welcomed and important. Please respond. Let's go Hokies!!!
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85vthokie_cincy
4mo
Let's say for Giving Day, if I (we) moved all our Athletic Giving to...
Softball, would it all make it to Pete and Co.? Would this be a start? I assume when it is desingated, it actually ends up where it is supposed to go. My experience indicates this to be true. 1. Would this be a reasonable starting point? 2. What would be a reasonable goal for increased funding? $250K, $500K, $1M? ** Edited by 85vthokie_cincy at 3/30/2026, 10:24:50 PM
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nkhooch
4mo
Let's say our program goes from where it is now to a regular first round
NCAA host and occasional CWS participant. Pete retires here as a legend in that sport. Biggest next to Beamer. As a VT softball fan, I would love it. But, how much ($$$) is that worth to the university? How would the university and the school's sports fans view it? That is what we are up against when looking for more funding. I am concerned that overall, softball is not a popular enough sport to motivate a much larger investment. And relative to MLB, college baseball isn't that popular either. When I talk college sports with my non-VT friends, softball doesn't generate must interest. Even if their college has a strong softball program. When I talk softball with my VT friends, most have no idea how good our team is doing.
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RJHokie
4mo
You could use that argument for all the Olympic sports.
sacramento hokie sacramento hokie
4mo
Yes and messing with Title Nine sports could get legally messy
And that is for the legal group to kick around… their are bound to be legal challenges for sure
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
4mo
Like with a lot of things, there are some schools where an Olympic sport
is popular. Maybe even more popular than their revenue sports. For example, I believe Johns Hopkins DI men's lacrosse has a bigger following than their DIII football and DIII basketball programs. You might be able to make a similar argument that DII or DIII that compete at the DI level in men's or women's ice hockey tend to have a bigger following than their revenue sports even if they don't sponsor football. From a marketing standpoint, what (if anything) are those schools doing to promote those programs? Could VT use any of those techniques to help promote any of their Olympic sports better? Now I do think getting more Olympic sport coverage on the ACCN probably would help increase interest in the sport. After all wasn't the intended purpose of the conference network to promote all the sports the conference sponsors?
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nkhooch
4mo
No argument there.
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Hokie_Forester
4mo
If the Athletic Department was smart they would go all in on this program
to get the school and this fanbase its first national title. I have said it before but in the grand scheme of things we could be elite level with a small investment compared to some other sports. If Whit wants to restore the fan bases opinion of him and his time here that would be a hell of a start.
hokiepro hokiepro
4mo
With the right breaks and getting hot at the right time, THIS roster could
Yes a bit of a long shot BUT if Mazz gets inna groove and finds her control and Bree stays consistent…those two can keep us in range of ANY team and it’d depend on our bats coming through at the right times. We are just as good as ANY lineup top to bottom; defense is elite, and Mazz is just as good as elite pitchers (when she’s not walking more than 2-3 a game) like Heavener, Maya Johnson, and I’d dare say…since she’s a lefty…just as tough to hit & square up as Jordy (Bahl) Frahm and this year’s version (so far) of Nija Canady who’s been roughed up a little there and there. Mazz’s worst games from ERA perspective were due to walks and one untimely HR (GS vs Duke)
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Hokie_Forester
4mo
I agree with the right breaks and getting hot at the right time this team
is capable of winning it all. I also agree about Mazz she is elite when she is on just needs to calm down on the walks for me to call her elite everyday.
hokiepro hokiepro
4mo
Yeah re: Mazz she has ELITE velocity and movement
If she gets the control part down pat she’s a top 5 level pitcher
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VTBAMA
4mo
They would go all in on wrestling before softball
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Hokie_Forester
4mo
I agree that the wrestling program is great but I will argue that softball
is closer to a natty than wrestling. The distance between the #1 team in the country and the #10 team is astronomical where in softball I do not see that as being the case. You give VT a Karlyn Pickens and this team is probably top 5 this year. Thats how close I believe they are.
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VTBAMA
4mo
I think the exact same thing. You are 100% correct.
hokiepro hokiepro
4mo
We can’t beat Penn State unless someone puts about $50m directly into
Wrestling
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VTBAMA
4mo
It won't take that. It will be a collaborative effort
but somebody will take psu down in the next few years. Most likely not 2027 though. Ok St and VT are loading up with complete studs
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UpperQuad
4mo
OK State is the rising power
They have a former Olympian as their new coach and he is doing extremely well in terms of recruiting.
VTChip VTChip
4mo
I don't know that Penn State will ever NOT be the king of wrestling
Penn State has won the last five championships with no end in sight. At least in softball, there have been two different national champions in the last two years and there are 5-6 teams that could win it this year, including Texas Tech that has had ZERO history of being able to compete at the highest level. They simply have had an infusion of oil money.
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VTBAMA
4mo
Agree but if another team Or 2 like OK St joins with VT and
Start really winning individual wrestling titles, psu will come back to the crowd some. 2028 could be very interesting in wrestling.
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william floyd
4mo
Yes, money did it for them, and money could help us.
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william floyd
4mo
True. That is why we softball supporters have to do it.
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RJHokie
4mo
The words “smart” and “Whit Babcock” in the same paragraph are quite
incongruent.
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Hokie_Forester
4mo
Fair point lol.
IB4TECH IB4TECH
4mo
You're definitely thinking outside of the box.