From Blue Bloods Bias, posted on the Twixter machine...
Posted this afternoon - Which College Football Teams Run the Top Media Markets?
I know some have argued that media markets no longer matter, and some think that Notre Dame runs the DC market. But still nice to see this...
New York City: Notre Dame
Los Angeles: USC
Chicago: Michigan
Dallas: Texas
Houston: Texas A&M
Atlanta: Georgia
San Francisco: California
Philadelphia: Penn State
Phoenix: Arizona State
Miami: Miami
Seattle: Washington
DC: Virginia Tech
Boston: Notre Dame
Detroit: Michigan
Tampa: Florida
Denver: Colorado
Minneapolis: Minnesota
San Diego: San Diego State
Las Vegas: USC
Portland: Oregon
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be debatable for that too. Maryland is a Pro Sports State.
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fill it up for them. Yes that is a reflection of interest on TV too. The season ticket holders in that area are for the Ravens and Commanders, same with TV viewers. They especially aren’t close to Virginia Tech in Northern Virginia, but not really in DC either. Maybe they win Maryland, but again they are not College Football fans, they are NFL fans. By the way, that works for Fox and their model, but it’s not high TV rating College Football, it’s a nice introduction to their NFL football games.
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Also, those three are not leaving our conference (so far).
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Truthahn
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Tops in Tallahassee, and probably Pensacola as well.
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EDGEMAN
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That was an SEC town when I was there, and I doubt much has changed.
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A lot of Catholics in the Chicago area, and their campus is a lot closer than Michigan’s.
I also question U of Miami on that list. The metro area extends all the way to West Palm Beach, and I doubt they have much support outside the city proper. I’d think the Gators would have more fans in the metro area.
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Plenty of Florida Alums and fans live in that area. Needless to say, there are a lot of jobs down there.
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...every ACC and SEC fan in Miami sports fans except Miami fans. I think the 20 of them get together in someone's house to watch the games...lol
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Who every season writes unmerited articles propping Miami up and wondering if this will be the year they're finally "back". Its like some kind of weird addiction.
I guess we have to wait for all the sportswriters who remember Miami's glory days to die and then maybe their reputation will sync back up with reality.
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So this might be the year
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Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati are all bigger media markets than Vegas.
And Ohio State owns all three. But somehow they aren't on the graphic.
Portland, San Diego, and Vegas aren't even Top 20 media markets.
Cleveland, Orlando and Sacramento are though.
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lots of Domers around and a surprising number of Michigan fans.
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Yeah. One thing the graphic DOESN'T mention is to what degree does the #1
team in a market actually own the market.
For example, there's several different teams that have an NYC following in addition to ND. Rutgers obviously. But also PSU and Michigan.
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...buying power has any impact on market dynamics. Cities that sell houses for $1 are not considered a major market.
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It's a ways away, but it seems like it's making a bit of a comeback. They just dumped a pile of money into their Central Station. The city itself has run a surplus for 10 years +. It has the 15th largest GDP in the country. Population is stagnant, so they've got to figure that out.
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I'll take college towns over big cities. It's mostly all pro interest for big cities. Washington is a notable exception, Arizona State possibly. USC too. UCLA - not really. Stanford, Cal - nope. No wonder the Pac had attendance and fan interest issues.
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Cal 10 or so years ago, it looked like Ohio State had opened a new stadium.
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That’s why they took Rutgers, Maryland, USC, UCLA and Washington. Their most valued product is the NFL on Sunday, and they believe the Saturday games with the B1G will help build that. The SEC is more of we are the only game in town league, like Tech and WVU type schools that bring eyeballs and passion in good times and bad times for their 🏈 team. It’s worked really well for them, but the Fox Model seems to be working for them too.
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Getting 3K fans into their home football games shows they own that market...lol
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USC has the Cali cities. That list is hot garbage.
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I think that DC=Virginia Tech is accurate.
The rest looks fairly right.
** Edited by TerryD at 4/24/2024, 9:47:05 PM
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FWIW - Coach Norvell and others are there now. Comments yesterday by FSU AD Michael Alford about the importance of Chicago to the FSU fan base moving forward: he "expects to be in the Windy City much more starting this summer." Seminole sources also saying FSU to the B1G is a done deal and they will officially announce they are out of the ACC before 2024 kicks off. Funny how different internet locations yield different outcomes. Interesting are the varying takes that exist. Depends on what side of the fence one resides. Sources = LOL.
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The impression I have based off of the amount school gear I’ve seen in my time here is:
1. Iowa
2. Illinois
3. Wisconsin, Purdue, Notre Dame
4. Everyone else
I would say Iowa is a strong #1. I feel like I see 3 or 4 Iowa things for every 1 Illinois thing and about 2 Illinois things for every 1 of the #3 schools. I randomly will see other schools out there.
It probably gets more ND focused the further east, but I’m hardly ever over that way.
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haven’t won much in football.
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Northwestern calls themselves "Chicago's Big Ten Team"
I report, you decide 😆
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** Edited by Stech at 4/25/2024, 8:33:34 AM
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Indeed, they are the only Big Ten team in town.
However, Chicago is ND territory, no doubts about it.
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So if we end up in the SEC
We'd be the 4th highest SEC team based on national media market rankings. There are two things driving this bus: football and markets.
** Edited by Carolina Hokie 05 at 4/24/2024, 8:05:04 PM
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** Edited by Stech at 4/24/2024, 8:59:17 PM
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Not to mention the 4 million people in the Richmond/Hampton Roads area that Virginia Tech also dominates, which by the way used to all be the 804, not that long ago, at least to us Seasoned Citizens! 🤣🤣
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Markets are still important but not as important as back in the day. Streaming is taking over. The "in-network" carriage fee for conference networks / distributors going to be diminished. No way the Big 10 picks up Rutgers now as Comcast, etc. would tell the Big 10 to pound sand versus Comcast, etc. raising their rates to New York subscribers.
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I have worked with some of the biggest brands in sports, UNC and Oregon would have you think it’s about selling apparel, and for them it is about that. However, on every industry you ask where does the profit come from and how much profit will it generate. Whether you are talking about subscriptions, advertising or even declining cable, the money is made by eyeballs watching, and the other big part is the income of the eyeballs watching. Higher end products many times simply make more profit.
PS I didn’t mention new large markets, but that is a big factor too.
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I just saw this!!!! Boom 💥
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Clemson, FSU, UNC, and UVA not there.
** Edited by OrlandoHokie at 4/24/2024, 7:40:19 PM
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Granted, not a large sample size, but they definitely made it seem like that was the case. That's how I've been to two Hokie games at ND.
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So, if the Big Ten put up one in Blacksburg that said "Rutgers: Southwestern Virginia's team", the Hokies would be dethroned and take a back seat there ? :)
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