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Hardcore_Hokie OP
Dec 22, 2023 at 03:32 PM ET
Be proactive and poach from the Big 12 and PAC
ACC just added Stanford, Cal, and SMU. If we’re losing FSU, put out offers to Baylor, WVU, UCF, Oregon State, Kansas State, TCU, Washington State, Houston, Oklahoma State, BYU, Texas Tech, UCONN, Cincinnati… All Coast Conference with 24-32 teams Win with quantity, bet on those programs. With 12 teams making the playoffs now, you’re more likely to represent with multiple 0 and 1 loss teams.

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hokieball hokieball
I’m not sure that would solve the money problem.
HokieAl HokieAl
ha, nobody wants to join the ACC with our leadership and contracts
Standford and Cal were desperate. SMU just wanted to move up at any cost. But the B12 schools don't want to be part of this sinking ship. As of today, the B12 is a more stable conference than the ACC.
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VTCALS72
But the ACC will be "stable" too after those that have no place to go
are all that is left. That is who the B12 is today. What becomes of the ACC and B12 will pretty much depend on what ESPN orders. For the next interim step It could be Fox and a 22 member Big vs ESPN and a 22 member SEC in what will effectively be Division 1. Then ESPN owning a Division 2 consisting of the ACC and B12 with about 40 teams and anybody else being a Division 3.
BROman Hokie BROman Hokie
The B12 is more stable b/c the P2 already took their top schools
neworleanshoo neworleanshoo
bingo. no one left to poach.
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HokiePail
I posted this on the subscriber board....
On the Accn, it's pointed out that the Acc contract is worth more than the Big 12 and more than the Pac 12, or that it would have been. Not the Sec level but not at the bottom. Fsu is making a bad decision imo, with the 3 added, the population of the Acc area and Nil appears to be helping the Acc. I think things are looking up. Fsu is being greedy, or fearful, bitter, whatever it is, it's shortsighted.
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Marooned
It is possible that F$U breaks away, paying significantly but less than
full GOR and the rest of the conference stays intact. THEN the ACC schools plow their share of the payouts into their revenue programs. THEN SMU becomes a real revelation in revenue sports (remember here that the media rights money is not that big a factor to them. They have money. They need opportunity). THEN NIL changes the playing field in unforeseen ways relative to the P2. THEN the ACC starts becoming a whole lot more competitive and gets rewarded in 2036. In the meantime, F$U is having to deal with the costly divorce, and reduced payouts from the B1G, which is really its presumptive landing spot. I don’t see the B1G letting F$U having their version of the LHN as they said they were exploring, by the way.
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Hardcore_Hokie OP
Might seem more stable *right now* but it doesn’t have the better brands.
Also remember that Texas and Oklahoma just left. And Texas A&M, Nebraska and Missouri left not long ago. FAR from stable. (That’s worse than if the ACC lost FSU, Clemson, Miami, UNC, and VT).
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VPI_1998
Well - one thing you can say about the BigXII - they are used to it.
They've had teams coming in and out for the past 15 years, so maybe they are accustomed to volatility.
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HokieNoVA
They're stable because they have nothing the P2 wants.
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HOO86
Big XII teams won't be interested until their new GOR ends.
This is if they are interested. The Big XII has exit fees too. I would do USF to backfill FSU, and then probably San Diego State, Colorado State, and possibly Oregon State. The Washington State academics are significantly worse than Louisville, so I don't see that one. But you never know. But I don't see the ACC wanting to do something like this now. They will work on integrating Cal/Stanford/SMU first. Also depending on what happens with the FSU situation determining what the ACC looks like after that.
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Big12 guy
Call it the ACC or B12, it's going to happen. It's reported that the B12
teams will get 49M this year, and the ACC will get 41M. Pretty sure you will not cherry pick and leave the 4 corners behind. I think teams like Wake and BC may be left behind if the ACC doesn't make it.
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hokieZ71
Wake and BC the Oregon State and Wash St of the East Coast?
Will Syracuse’s hoops rep keep them relevant in football driven realignment? Gosh I figure they’d probably jump at the chance to get back in the Big East in hoops.
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon
If cable subs still matter, New York still a big state.