Miami expansion credentials. Since 1991, (1) FB champs 2001, (2) baseball.
1999,2001. That’s it! They’re living off past glory. They don’t bring fans and that TV market is not college football. Why would the SEC or Big10 want them over others. I could see them as a 5th or 6th pick.
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They don't love San Francisco, Phoenix, or Denver apparently.
Could have had Cal/Stanford, ASU and/or Colorado.
Nothin' doin'.
** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 12/29/2023, 11:17:47 PM
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I just posted an article written by Dan Wetzel that describes the B1G’s approach to expansion. It’s very different from the SEC.
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And wealthy alum who in past offered major support to build stadium on or
Near campus appears backing off…
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that is still their ace.
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The Rose Bowl is probably the same distance from UCLA campus ah Hard Rock is from Coral Gables.
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business years ago, but don’t know if it takes as long as the Miami drive. I was just down there last week and it was a crawl both days at 10-11 AM.
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The time depends on traffic. The road down the hill from Pasadena to the Rose Bowl can back up. I'm told there may be another route to the Rose Bowl that's better.
I think it's similar to Miami.
** Edited by HOO86 at 12/30/2023, 2:30:26 AM
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There’s talk of moving one Big Ten game to SoFi yearly in the near future.
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Just talks, though. Nothing formal. I don’t know where they’d put it.
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That's much closer to UCLA.
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If UCLA is able to consistently sell out the Rose Bowl for every home game, then why would the school give it up?
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It's an image thing, IMO.
The Rose Bowl is synonymous with the Big Ten, Pac-12 and college football pageantry.
When the U was at the actual Orange Bowl, there was something cool and even magical about the place relating to college football that pre-dated the NFL Dolphins.
But the whatever-naming-rights-stadium the U is playing in now is just lame. Not big time.
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UCLA to Rose Bowl: approximately 26 miles
Miami to Hard Rock: approximately 21 miles
There may be a little difference in the travel time.
UCLA to Rose Bowl: approximately 40-45 minutes
Miami to Hard Rock: approximately 25-30 minutes
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wasn’t work time traffic. As I said to HOO86, I was driving between 10-11 AM with no accidents.
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"The stadium is in Pasadena, about 25 miles from campus. Allow at least two hours to drive from UCLA to the Rose Bowl."
I tried to use sites that would allow me to select the travel days, but I guess they were using real time traffic.
Link:
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said one hour was a good day. Also, she said it’s an absolute crawl, very very annoying drive.
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and you may be right, but lately the B1G is all in on NFL cities. Maryland, Rutgers, USC, UCLA and Washington are NFL areas.
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Once FSU wins the lawsuit (in some form). Then, an immediate bidding war takes place between the SEC and B1G. Where it goes from there, who the hell knows??!
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for ND, and may get them sooner if the tier 1 has its own playoff. The only thing that ND will likely join a Conference for is access to the tier 1 pay for play demands you be a member of a tier 1 Conference.
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There are a bunch of "blue blood" programs living off past glory: Notre Dame, Michigan, Penn State, Tennessee, and Miami are probably the worst offenders (off the top of my head). And in some of those cases they're living off stuff that happened 30+ years ago.
How would that thinking go over in the NFL? Imagine making the argument that the Washington Redskins were an elite franchise because they won 3 Super Bowls in the 80's/90's. After they were done laughing at you...
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ND went 10-3 this year. The only year it didn't have double digit wins during that time period was last year (9-4).
10-3--2017
12-1--2018
11-2--2019
10-2--2020
11-2--2021
9-4--2022
10-3--2023
ND is 73-17 since 2016, with two playoff bids. That is a very good and consistent run, with two head coaches.
Those win totals rank up there with or even exceed any such 7 year run in ND history.
How would Miami, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Penn State or anyone else feel about such a recent record?
Only about 4-6 programs in America have more wins than ND the past 3, 7 or 10 years (however you want to slice it).
That is the recent past, not 30 years ago.
TV ratings for ND are very good as well. It just signed a stand alone deal for $50 million a year for 6-7 home games because of its fanbase/ratings.
That is why Fox, NBC and the Big Ten want ND so badly. The ACC, SEC and Big 12 want them as well.
IF ND is living in the past, or irrelevant, or whatever, then what is almost everyone else doing, including Virginia Tech, WVU or whomever?
** Edited by TerryD at 12/30/2023, 10:03:17 AM
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In 2024 they will be behind only Duke and UNC, and tied with FSU, in contributing NCAA units to the ACC's payout from the NCAA. I hate the U like any good Hokie should, but admittedly they've done well in hoops recently.
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