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HOKIEGOBBLE OP
Aug 09, 2023 at 08:07 AM ET
Ragnor would raid the SEC & maybe also the B1G…
Pop quiz- which large public school has loads of money (large contributor base that might subsidize losing large conference payouts), hates upcoming adds to their conference, and could possibly attractively dominate the ACC?

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SpeakToDamien
I could see Penn State preferring the ACC at some point
If the acc moved to unequal distribution and don't so anything dumb in the interim like expand into CA and TX with sub-tier schools. Contract would look a lot better with Penn state.
HokieAl HokieAl
Nope. Expanded playoff means nobody is leaving behind the money
Everyone now has an easier path to the national title because you don't have to be perfect anymore. So there is no incentive to go to a weaker conference with less pay. Stick with the big paychecks and get into the playoffs is the new normal. Then hope to go on a run and bring home a title.
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ren_hoek
bartender, I'll have what he's having
reestuart reestuart
There is no scenario where PSU comes to the ACC. Even with unequal
revenue distribution, the numbers won't be there. Not even close. There's no reason whatsoever for them to even consider a move.
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Colonel Jessup
In a future world where things not negotiated at conference level
it would make sense. How long is Ohio State willing to get the same payout as Northwestern when money is only becoming more important? Could see very large negotiated packages or smaller subsets.
reestuart reestuart
yeah, I'm going with the assumption conferences stay intact. At least
the P2 ones. I think there will be some sort of break in the next 5-10 years. I don't know what that will look like. I could see it being 2-3 dozen Big Ten/SEC schools and not much of anyone else.
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Colonel Jessup
Many influential people talking separating football. My plan...
Separate football from other sports. Regional conferences for all other sports. You could tie the basketball in with football if you want. Any such plan would take SEC and B1G presidents to accept equal payouts as all other football schools in this league which is obviously the big hurdle to overcome. The extremely bad PR of these latest expansions is a nudge in that direction. Create some balance of football budget, attendance, performance, and willingness to play by a revised set of rules to come up with a pool of teams. Let's say 64 schools make that cut. There is a league below and there is some form of regulation/promotion based on set criteria. The 64 schools are divided into 8 divisions. The schools themselves have the power to sort out the divisions. You take the top 16 schools, pair rivals/like-minded institutions together and there is some sort of draft to fill out the divisions. Pairs: Alabama/Auburn Florida/Georgia Florida State/Clemson Texas/Oklahoma LSU/Texas A&M Ohio State/Michigan USC/Notre Dame Penn State/Tennessee
Vienna_Hokie Vienna_Hokie
I'm sure there are lots of BIG fans and school admins that are not happy
The BIG was always a very closely related (in some ways a bit of Stockholm Syndrome from living in the frozen wasteland that is the upper midwest). When MD and RUT were added, most fans were not happy, they liked the money it brought in, but they hated the idea of those 2 schools being part of their conference. Neb fit in well, though it didn't bring in any real revenue bump. My BIG friends are disgusted with the latest moves. The BIG is the midwest schools to them, and always will be. I think the downfall will be when the fans don't watch and the real revenue is not what was is predicted. The SEC on the other hand, added 2 schools that fit and the fans are excited about it. Not to mention being able to smack Texas around to show them what life in a real FB conference looks like.
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon
A&M to B1G maybe. ACC offers less money and football prestige than the SEC.
A non-starter for any SEC or B1G team to come to the ACC.
wwhokie1 wwhokie1
Give it a few years and there may be some schools unhappy with the results
Of expansion in the SEC, or the Big 10.
BUGGZY BUGGZY
Everything Texas touches turns to ****...only a matter of time
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Windows NT
everything in Texas is ****ty...
Austin is the only exception
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RJHokie
Truth.
wwhokie1 wwhokie1
I can see Texas a&m getting unhappy pretty quick
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HokiePail
Saw a Penn st podcast saying he wasn't happy.
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MrFantastic!
BIG 12 is where the out west teams less Colorado become unhappy.
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Big12 guy
ASU and Utah are already unhappy. Zona with basketball will love it.
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WBGV
Utah’s leaders have done a 180. They are saying all of the right things
and seem genuinely excited about the Big 12. It took them about 24 hours to drop the phoniness of being an elite academic institution because of their athletic conference association with Stanford and Cal. Arizona fans and administrators are ecstatic about being in the Big 12. They wanted Arizona to make the move over a year ago and didn’t care who came with them. ASU is a different story. Their President has almost no interest in sports and they have the worst athletic director in the country. No one in Phoenix can understand how this man keeps his job. Their athletic department is deep in debt, they can’t keep coaches, and there is a history of scandals. The only reason they are in the Big 12 is because of Arizona. Michael Crow, ASU’s President, deserves as much blame as Larry Scott & George Kliavkoff for the demise of the PAC-12.
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MrFantastic!
AZ will regret in time. Get over yourself.
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Big12 guy
I'm most definitely over myself. Do you think teams like
Cuse will get unhappy being in a conference where half the teams want to leave? A legit question.
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Vippie1
exactly
when you subtract a top brand or two from one conference and add it to another conference , funny how the payouts pretty much wash. At some point sanity will right the ship (note that point might be at least a decade or more away). But PSU, UMD , maybe UGA and UF (less WF and BC) would be a pretty clean Eastern Seaboard sweep for one super conference. One can dream
hokiesrule98 hokiesrule98
A&M to ACC is not happening. Just slightly better odds than ND to ACC
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EDGEMAN
What if we promised that Big TX would never be admitted to the ACC?
They could once and forever escape Big TX.