I’ll be curious as to how it aligns with the Big Ten contract once those details are officially known. Now it is just a waiting game for the next round of changes regarding the playoff and NCAA structure. After that we get the final endgame for conferences within the next 10 years.

I would think ND would want to see if ESPN could pay them the $75 million they want. They would need to be satisfied at the Broadcast time slots, but why not give it a shot? NBC might up it. This $60M will be just for football. It's what I would expect. Too expensive to buy out of the ACC right now. The Dude of MN must be crying about now if this is true. He was so invested in ND was going to be joining by October. I don't want to see the ACC get bogged down in this right now. There are things that the ACC needs to be doing with our football conference and expansion. It's hard to tell what Jim Phillips is doing.

Why is ND only scheduled to play four ACC games this fall? UNC, Clemson, Syracuse and BC. Also with this new B1G contract taking the 730 time slot I guess ND will no longer have home night games? Unless they put it on Peacock?

Notre Dame has honored their contract with the ACC. The ACC would add Notre Dame in a heartbeat. Everyone knows that. They aren't interested in this. I don't believe that the ACC has changed much at all when this was agreed to. The B1G always had more money, and always would have more money, but we need to get off this. The ACC needs to work for us. ND will keep doing what ND has been doing. The ACC needs to more forward without worrying about Notre Dame.

could be the final year of the cycle. I'm kind of using "cycle" loosely here to mean Notre Dame plays all 14 ACC foes the same number of times within a given period of time. I forget which year was the first year this arrangement went into effect. If you look at the entire history of this arrangement, then you may see a pattern which supports the cycle structure.

then they already are, when they are still obligated to play 5 ACC teams annually?

They can do stuff like that starting in 2024. That won't affect them much at all. They were already scheduling a Big Team regularly I thought.

from year to year. That essentially frees up two spots for them, even with 5 ACC games. Add a couple of Big Ten games and a couple of patsies, and there you go. ** Edited by reestuart at 8/16/2022, 4:35:24 PM

the opportunity to play games in both NoCal and SoCal. If Notre Dame drops Stanford for UCLA, then it would only be playing games in SoCal unless Notre Dame decides to play the Shamrock Series at the 49ers stadium.

... game on the West coast every year. Hence the Stanford, USC games every year. One at home, one on the West Coast.

discussion evolved into does Notre Dame want to play in both NoCal (i.e. Stanford) and SoCal (i.e. USC) or does it matter? Remember reestuart suggested that Notre Dame could trade its annual game with Stanford for UCLA now that UCLA and USC are joining the Big Ten. I questioned whether Notre Dame is interested in that plan given that both UCLA and USC are SoCal schools. Hence why I suggested in another post that Notre Dame may want to play opponents from both regions of the state for recruiting purposes.

the original reason was to play in Cali every year.

season game between Stanford and USC. I was suggesting the reason Notre Dame resumed its series with Stanford instead of starting one with UCLA is it wanted an opportunity to play in both parts of the state for recruiting purposes and given its fan base is located throughout the entire state. FWIW it appears that Notre Dame has only played UCLA 4 times between 1963 and 2007 (3 games at Notre Dame and only 1 game at UCLA).

also doubt it's a must. ND-UCLA used to be an annual basketball game, so there is a lot of history there. Not sure it translates to today, though.

De La Salle (Concord), Serra (San Mateo), St. Francis (Mountain View), Rocklin (Rocklin), Folsom (Folsom), Pittsburg (Pittsburg), Valley Christian (San Jose), Central (Fresno), Buchanan (Clovis), Edison (Stockton), etc. to name a few. I could easily see Notre Dame wanting to play a game in NoCal because it would give the assistant coaches an opportunity to watch potential recruits in action while the team is in the area for a game. Given that Notre Dame recruits nationally, the coaching staff may have to utilize the killing of two birds with one stone whenever they have the opportunity because their time on the recruiting trail is limited during the season. It is one thing for VT coaches to drive to NOVA, 757, or Charlotte to watch a couple Friday night games in person and still have plenty of time to drive back to get ready for a Saturday home game. While Notre Dame coaches may have to rely more on flying as their preferred mode of transportation because they have to cover a greater distance in the same amount of time. Hence why I think they may utilize checking out nearby recruits more during away games than a program that may recruit more regionally. This logic may even help explain why the Shamrock Series and Navy's home game are typically played at a neutral site. FWIW this year's Shamrock Series game against BYU is being played in Las Vegas this year. It is worth noting that the Las Vegas area has several good/great HS teams, so I would expect to see a couple assistant coaches at those games the night before. Notre Dame's other neutral site game is Navy's home game in Baltimore. I would expect the assistant coaches to attend HS games in Baltimore, DC, and maybe NOVA the night before for the same reason.

but they aren't going to schedule four more annually - that would be murderers row. On one hand, short term good news for the ACC. But if they foreshadow an ultimate move to the B1G, then there could be an awkward period (potentially long) with the ACC where they will not expect nor get any favors, love, or goodwill. A long breakup, sleeping in separate bedrooms, for the sake of the kids.

to the ACC? I'm still not clear about the strength of the GOR and ND's promise not to join another conference for football.

The only thing more valuable than ND joining the B1G right now, alongside USC and UCLA, is ND joining the B1G in 2031 at the end of the B1G's next contract. Which will make the B1G's valuation skyrocket once again headed to their next negotiating window. What was $100M a year will become $125M or $133M a year. For everyone.

Big 10.

Time you guys may ever join the MEAC may be best thing going.

Will put us close to 80. That is enough to maintain status quo. We will continue to get closer to the Big 10 though. ** Edited by goldendomer at 8/16/2022, 12:52:49 PM

making basketball a LOT more lucrative for conferences. This will strengthen the ACC. Maybe an expansion with Baylor (recent bball natty, great football), Houston (Final Four appearance, good football), Okie State (good bball and football), Kansas (recent bball natty, putrid football), Cincinnati (CFP appearance, good bball), and WVU (better rivalries for TV) would be in play.

$60 million seems low for what many said Notre Dame was seeking. Maybe ESPN/ACCN/ABC provides the rest to reach $100 million (or whatever ND's goal is) per year? Those two network deals would keep Notre Dame football independent through 2036.

"If true…if this is not some part of negotiations then we were wrong. We did not think Notre Dame, in this new world of total deregulation and conferences gaining power, would maintain status quo and be comfortable making so much less per year vs B1G."

Silly Dude

he truly knows a whole lot. I don't think anyone does.

I know he is widely read at SBJ but I also remember when he said that there would never be an ACC Network. He could not have been more wrong. Unless he has an audience with the top brass at ND, does he really know anything or just making an assumption.

like a lot of people in the media. Throwing stuff against the wall hoping it sticks and knowing that if it doesn't he will just backtrack and talk about how circumstances changed. If ND is going to get even $60MM something will have to change as I do not believe their historical numbers at NBC support that type valuation. My own guess, based on nothing other than reported negotiation, is this is motivated by NBC desire for a slice of B1G action, B1G looking to bring ND closer to the fold and ND very adeptly playing those desires into a contract value they could not get on their own.

this seems to make sense. I dont think there is enough to force ND out of its independence this cycle. Which is likely good news for the ACC for the time being. Seems the best that can happen is to get the PAC more secured for the next few years- with some cooperation with the ACC, that brings both sides marginally more money- i.e. network and maybe some cross scheduling.

there only being 2 relevant conferences. Again, this may not be accurate but if so I think the ACC has an opportunity to commit to improving the product and ultimately saving their conference

And it can have both for about 6-8 more years.