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Tech plays Notre Dame more than every football team in the ACC Atlantic...

except for BC. It doesn't make sense.

You make some valid points but you along with everyone else knows that Notre Dame values its football independence more than life itself. I feel like Notre Dame is afraid it would lose its identity if they joined a football conference. They are afraid that they'll become just another college football team and that all their traditions and history will gradually be forgotten over time. No one except for the Notre Dame fans will remember Knute Rockne, Rudy, The Leprechaun, their famous fight song and Touchdown Jesus. The traditionalists will never allow football conference membership to happen. I understand not wanting to give up traditions, but Tech gave up a big one in the 1980's when they stopped playing longtime rival VMI. That game was once bigger than UVA. Tech hasn't played VMI since 1984. What happen? Times changed. Tech was heading to big time football and VMI wasn't. Is Notre Dame living in the past by holding on to its football independence? I think so. By 2036, I have a feeling Notre Dame will finally give in simply because they'll have to in order to survive. The ACC agreement is just buying them more time to live in the past. I agree with TerryD that Notre Dame will never be a fulltime member of the ACC. They'll probably end up in the Big Ten by 2036 when they're finally forced to, OR they'll become a G-5 program to keep their football independence. Notre Dame's ego is too large to drop down to the G-5 level.
Posted: 01/25/2022 at 07:21 PM ET
(In response to this post by PaNDalum)

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Has anybody really done the math?
PaNDalum 01/25/22 04:17 PM ET
Great questions, I would love to know the answers.**
Stech 01/25/22 08:30 PM ET
Tech plays Notre Dame more than every football team in the ACC Atlantic...
Old Line Hokie 01/25/22 07:21 PM ET
They are just another football team.
RTFC 01/26/22 08:26 PM ET
ND isn't going to join a G5 conference. It will be the B1X
EDGEMAN 01/26/22 07:14 AM ET
Even if the Big Ten and SEC decide to treat the all athletes as employees?**
VTHokie2000 01/26/22 08:41 PM ET
Exactly, though I can see the SEC and B1G doing that and ND
RTFC 01/26/22 09:37 PM ET
The "moral grounds" is an interesting position for Notre Dame to take
VTHokie2000 01/26/22 09:53 PM ET
So, God doesn't like football independents?
TerryD 01/27/22 03:59 PM ET
I can't say what God does or doesn't like. Plus, I wouldn't assume
VTHokie2000 01/27/22 10:09 PM ET
Really thorough post... **
goldendomer 01/27/22 11:12 PM ET
Thanks. Like I have noted in a previous post, I don't have a problem
VTHokie2000 01/27/22 11:48 PM ET
The points you make are a struggle for me personally.
goldendomer 01/28/22 10:12 AM ET
I agree with the competing interest, we all have them, but usually survival
Stech 01/28/22 07:37 AM ET
I doubt ND would want the auto bid by adding Navy plus one
TerryD 01/28/22 12:20 PM ET
You don't want any of this, I get it. As far as VT and ACC yes we would
Stech 01/29/22 11:01 AM ET
It would merely cause more anti-ND resentment...
TerryD 01/29/22 11:58 AM ET
ACC wants to play you more, would be a move in the right direction for ACC.
Stech 01/29/22 12:10 PM ET
Side-note, our endowment leapt 7 billion that past year.
goldendomer 01/28/22 10:11 AM ET
Yes, I would agree with you that large of an endowment is insane
VTHokie2000 01/28/22 10:21 AM ET
The Catholic church has fought communism since it was unleashed on the
goldendomer 01/27/22 01:12 PM ET
And yet Notre Dame made the decision to join a conference for all
VTHokie2000 01/27/22 10:21 PM ET
Special dispensation- :)**
goldendomer 01/27/22 11:10 PM ET
Interesting choice of words :-)**
VTHokie2000 01/27/22 11:14 PM ET
Agree with all of that, precisely my point.**
RTFC 01/26/22 10:08 PM ET
The math is a guess. In general it would add more games
goldendomer 01/25/22 07:04 PM ET
ACC would also get whatever the updated market value is
daveinop 01/27/22 02:45 PM ET
I feel like ESPN/ABC picking up that SEC piece from CBS and adding OU/TU
reestuart 01/25/22 04:54 PM ET
No ACC product to the ACC Network and RSN
Mercury 01/25/22 05:35 PM ET
Yep. If the Big Ten doesn't move completely from ESPN/ABC, even the noon
reestuart 01/25/22 05:39 PM ET