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1. Announcement time and actual departure time are two different things. Read the report: "It is expected that there will be declining financial penalties for schools that exit before 2036, with the steepest decreases coming after 2030... But the total cost to exit the league after the 2029-30 season is expected to drop below $100 million, sources said."
2. The domino effect is not very relevant here. The P2 doesn’t invite schools because of a domino effect. Every M2 school will accept an invitation if given. There aren’t that many schools in the ACC that will increase the payout for the P2. I don’t see more than four (plus ND).
3. See my comments in #2. Again, everyone wants to leave, but no invitation means nowhere to go.
4. It’s all about money. Nobody in the ACC would leave for the B12 if the money is less there, and vice versa. The ESPN-ACC contract runs through 2036. The current B12 contract is much worse than the ACC contract.
5. It’s about football because football makes money. In the end, it’s about money—and all about money.
6. The Big East/AAC kept losing schools and backfilling with schools from CUSA. That’s the exact model. As long as the ACC makes significantly more, B12 schools will come.
7. The unstable B12 didn’t have any problem getting AAC schools when it lost so many teams.
8. Again, the ACC contract runs through 2036. It’s not like the ACC has to find a new media contract in 2030/2031 (that’s what happened to the Pac-12; this is a completely different situation).
9. ESPN has already invested so much money in the ACC Network. From ESPN’s perspective, leveraging its platform to the max is more advantageous than partnering with the B12. You always make fun of BC, but there are many (rich) people in Massachusetts. I suspect there are plenty of people in ACC territory who are rich enough to subscribe to the ESPN/ACC Network, even if they don’t watch much sports. This doesn’t impact ratings but helps the bottom line through subscription revenue.
10. No ACC schools will join the Big East, no matter what happens. Football drives the bus. Being independent won’t work for all ACC schools except for ND. ACC schools joining the Big East is a pipe dream from the past.
Thread Replies (49)
Interesting and somewhat expected per rumblings. Will be looking
-- VintonHokies
Mar 03, 2025 at 11:10 AM ET
VintonHokies
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03/03/25 11:10 AM ET
<$100M to leave in 2030 and $200M now
-- Millpoint
Mar 03, 2025 at 03:49 PM ET
Millpoint
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03/03/25 03:49 PM ET
I suspect that departing schools might also have to pay ESPN separately. **
-- RandomAsianGuy
Mar 03, 2025 at 03:55 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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03/03/25 03:55 PM ET
ESPN actually paid Texas and OU's exit fees. **
-- Big12 guy
Mar 03, 2025 at 03:59 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/03/25 03:59 PM ET
Point by point.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 03, 2025 at 05:12 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/03/25 05:12 PM ET
UNC WILL DICTATE ALL OF THIS
-- MrFantastic!
Mar 10, 2025 at 06:34 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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03/10/25 06:34 AM ET
I hope you're still prowling around here when all this goes down, so I can-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 04, 2025 at 09:43 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/04/25 09:43 AM ET
Don't worry. I will stick around. You will have to bear with me for long. **
-- RandomAsianGuy
Mar 04, 2025 at 02:00 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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03/04/25 02:00 PM ET
I'm not sure the P2 are looking to add up to 7 ACC schools.
-- EDGEMAN
Mar 03, 2025 at 05:48 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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03/03/25 05:48 PM ET
I disagree. FSU and Clemson clearly have some kind of plan, or-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 04, 2025 at 09:40 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/04/25 09:40 AM ET
Negotiating with terrorists never backfires.**
-- HokieNoVA
Mar 03, 2025 at 01:23 PM ET
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03/03/25 01:23 PM ET
HUGE “total cost to exit league after 2029-30 expected to drop below 100M!”
-- Stech
Mar 03, 2025 at 01:19 PM ET
Stech
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03/03/25 01:19 PM ET
Or the ACC does not add anyone else and shrinks in size.
-- VTCALS72
Mar 03, 2025 at 07:54 PM ET
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03/03/25 07:54 PM ET
Have always thought th penalty went to the Conference, clearly the networks
-- Stech
Mar 03, 2025 at 04:19 PM ET
Stech
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03/03/25 04:19 PM ET
Texas and OU paid to Fox through the B12.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Mar 03, 2025 at 04:34 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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03/03/25 04:34 PM ET
ESP actually paid Texas, and OU's exit fees. **
-- Big12 guy
Mar 03, 2025 at 03:56 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/03/25 03:56 PM ET
I would be ok to have USF and UCF instead of FSU and Miami in the ACC.
-- OrlandoHokie
Mar 03, 2025 at 03:33 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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03/03/25 03:33 PM ET
Do you think this was a stipulation by ESPN to extend the contract? It
-- Big12 guy
Mar 03, 2025 at 01:22 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/03/25 01:22 PM ET
First, it was a legit question to Steth, as I'm thinking
-- Big12 guy
Mar 03, 2025 at 04:21 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/03/25 04:21 PM ET
Why would ESPN do that? that’s a money losing move. **
-- RandomAsianGuy
Mar 03, 2025 at 03:54 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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03/03/25 03:54 PM ET
There has to be a reason the ACC is settling. It's my guess that
-- Big12 guy
Mar 03, 2025 at 03:57 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/03/25 03:57 PM ET
If so, what is the point of having a GOR?
-- Truthahn
Mar 03, 2025 at 04:46 PM ET
Truthahn
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03/03/25 04:46 PM ET
Yes there was a reason but I doubt it’s ESPN. **
-- RandomAsianGuy
Mar 03, 2025 at 04:37 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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03/03/25 04:37 PM ET
There's no reasonable explanation re: the settlement that fits the-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 04, 2025 at 09:56 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/04/25 09:56 AM ET
I guess you can chalk it up to the Mid Atlantic
-- Big12 guy
Mar 04, 2025 at 10:10 AM ET
Big12 guy
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03/04/25 10:10 AM ET
With the exception of Penn State-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 04, 2025 at 10:28 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/04/25 10:28 AM ET
I think ESPN all along has wanted the ACC for 🏀 ratings. They used to say
-- Stech
Mar 03, 2025 at 01:53 PM ET
Stech
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03/03/25 01:53 PM ET
With the media money difference, NIL, and players
-- Big12 guy
Mar 03, 2025 at 02:01 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/03/25 02:01 PM ET
SEC is just in the South that works for 🏈, but not as much for 🏀, both
-- Stech
Mar 03, 2025 at 02:18 PM ET
Stech
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03/03/25 02:18 PM ET
All parties "won," that's a negotiation.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 03, 2025 at 01:27 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/03/25 01:27 PM ET
This will be the beginning of the end for the ACC as a "power" conference.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 03, 2025 at 11:58 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/03/25 11:58 AM ET
It’s not now in 🏈, ESPN renewed w/ ACC until 2036, expect 🏀 acquisitions
-- Stech
Mar 03, 2025 at 02:27 PM ET
Stech
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03/03/25 02:27 PM ET
If the penalty for leaving early is reasonable, you could see
-- Big12 guy
Mar 03, 2025 at 12:22 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/03/25 12:22 PM ET
The article didn't mention it, but I assume that there will be no new GOR.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 03, 2025 at 01:02 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/03/25 01:02 PM ET
Currently, I don't share your opinion that the ACC falls to
-- Big12 guy
Mar 03, 2025 at 01:10 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/03/25 01:10 PM ET
College football is better off if FSU, Clemson and Miami go to the B12
-- hokieZ71
Mar 03, 2025 at 07:29 PM ET
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03/03/25 07:29 PM ET
What do you think is going to happen in 2035-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 03, 2025 at 01:22 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/03/25 01:22 PM ET
Nope, didn't sleep though it, but i think that you make too
-- Big12 guy
Mar 03, 2025 at 01:37 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/03/25 01:37 PM ET
If they weren't confident in their ability to leave-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 03, 2025 at 01:48 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/03/25 01:48 PM ET
haha, I'm not shy of the ire from the old timers. I am curious as
-- Big12 guy
Mar 03, 2025 at 01:58 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/03/25 01:58 PM ET
The schools are going to leave then because 2029-2030 is the window.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 03, 2025 at 02:02 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/03/25 02:02 PM ET
That is only if the ACC settles with FSU, otherwise, the full GOR
-- Big12 guy
Mar 03, 2025 at 02:06 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/03/25 02:06 PM ET
Very interesting. Buckle up for 2030-31, its going to get wild
-- HokieAl
Mar 03, 2025 at 11:26 AM ET
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03/03/25 11:26 AM ET