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The article didn't mention it, but I assume that there will be no new GOR.

FSU and Clemson would never agree to that, given that a major concession by the ACC was to lower the penalty to leave early. I don't think any other ACC program with football ambition would agree to sign a new GOR either. I really think this settlement is little more than the ACC acknowledging that it ultimately can't do anything about all its major football properties exiting for elsewhere, and it had to buy itself (and most of its members) some time to prepare for the conference's impending demotion to G5 status. That's the "deal," so to speak. FSU and Clemson (and pretty much certainly others) stay on for another 4 years with more money, and the ACC gets time to start working the back channels to poach G5 programs when it needs to backfill and try to figure out how to spin the collapse of the conference from "power" status so that it can retain programs and media rights valuation to the greatest extent possible. I imagine we will see a renewed focus on the ACC as a basketball property, like a Big East conference that also sponsors football. Cal and Stanford will almost certainly leave, maybe for the Big 10, maybe as independents, because all the "pros" that now exist for them to be ACC members will cease, most importantly, the affiliation with Notre Dame. Because there will be no more major football brands in the ACC, Notre Dame will end its current contractual relationship with the conference for football, and it will start a new, similar scheduling agreement for football with the Big 10, maybe even the Big 10 and the SEC, and will park the rest of its sports in the Big East, where it can play other Catholic institutions in major metro areas. The American and Sun Belt will also really take financial hits, because the ACC will back fill primarily with the best of their programs. If the new look ACC's new media rights valuation is real bad, we may even see some wild stuff - I could see Boston College, Pitt, and/or Syracuse going back to the Big East, maybe in an extreme case even taking Duke with them, and all being independents in football, with a scheduling agreement among themselves and UConn. They could just sell their home games to the highest bidder; someone would buy the content, because everyone always needs content. If you're Duke, or those other former Big East schools, why would you stay in the ACC to play SMU and other backfill G5 programs like Tulane, JMU, App State, and USF? Duke may suck as a football brand, but they're probably the most lucrative basketball property in the country, and would do anything in their power not to have to affiliate themselves with these "mid-major" properties. The same line of reasoning goes for the other former Big East schools as well. If you can't get a big boy football paycheck, you may as well fall back on what you do (did?) best, and give up chasing the football dragon. These are the types of things the ACC will be maneuvering to avoid over the next 4 years until the hammer falls.
Posted: 03/03/2025 at 01:02 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Interesting and somewhat expected per rumblings. Will be looking
VintonHokies β€’ 03/03/25 11:10 AM ET
<$100M to leave in 2030 and $200M now
Millpoint β€’ 03/03/25 03:49 PM ET
I suspect that departing schools might also have to pay ESPN separately. **
RandomAsianGuy β€’ 03/03/25 03:55 PM ET
ESPN actually paid Texas and OU's exit fees. **
Big12 guy β€’ 03/03/25 03:59 PM ET
My takes:
RandomAsianGuy β€’ 03/03/25 02:20 PM ET
Point by point.
Baltimore_Hokie β€’ 03/03/25 05:12 PM ET
UNC WILL DICTATE ALL OF THIS
MrFantastic! β€’ 03/10/25 06:34 AM ET
RE
RandomAsianGuy β€’ 03/03/25 07:17 PM ET
I hope you're still prowling around here when all this goes down, so I can-
Baltimore_Hokie β€’ 03/04/25 09:43 AM ET
Don't worry. I will stick around. You will have to bear with me for long. **
RandomAsianGuy β€’ 03/04/25 02:00 PM ET
I'm not sure the P2 are looking to add up to 7 ACC schools.
EDGEMAN β€’ 03/03/25 05:48 PM ET
I disagree. FSU and Clemson clearly have some kind of plan, or-
Baltimore_Hokie β€’ 03/04/25 09:40 AM ET
Negotiating with terrorists never backfires.**
HokieNoVA β€’ 03/03/25 01:23 PM ET
HUGE β€œtotal cost to exit league after 2029-30 expected to drop below 100M!”
Stech β€’ 03/03/25 01:19 PM ET
Or the ACC does not add anyone else and shrinks in size.
VTCALS72 β€’ 03/03/25 07:54 PM ET
Curious
RandomAsianGuy β€’ 03/03/25 03:41 PM ET
Have always thought th penalty went to the Conference, clearly the networks
Stech β€’ 03/03/25 04:19 PM ET
Texas and OU paid to Fox through the B12.
RandomAsianGuy β€’ 03/03/25 04:34 PM ET
ESP actually paid Texas, and OU's exit fees. **
Big12 guy β€’ 03/03/25 03:56 PM ET
Link?**
RandomAsianGuy β€’ 03/03/25 04:35 PM ET
I would be ok to have USF and UCF instead of FSU and Miami in the ACC.
OrlandoHokie β€’ 03/03/25 03:33 PM ET
Do you think this was a stipulation by ESPN to extend the contract? It
Big12 guy β€’ 03/03/25 01:22 PM ET
How can you conclude......
2hhoop3 β€’ 03/03/25 04:15 PM ET
First, it was a legit question to Steth, as I'm thinking
Big12 guy β€’ 03/03/25 04:21 PM ET
Might be tiring. .......
2hhoop3 β€’ 03/03/25 04:25 PM ET
Why would ESPN do that? that’s a money losing move. **
RandomAsianGuy β€’ 03/03/25 03:54 PM ET
There has to be a reason the ACC is settling. It's my guess that
Big12 guy β€’ 03/03/25 03:57 PM ET
If so, what is the point of having a GOR?
Truthahn β€’ 03/03/25 04:46 PM ET
Yes there was a reason but I doubt it’s ESPN. **
RandomAsianGuy β€’ 03/03/25 04:37 PM ET
Care to share?**
Big12 guy β€’ 03/03/25 05:12 PM ET
There's no reasonable explanation re: the settlement that fits the-
Baltimore_Hokie β€’ 03/04/25 09:56 AM ET
I guess you can chalk it up to the Mid Atlantic
Big12 guy β€’ 03/04/25 10:10 AM ET
With the exception of Penn State-
Baltimore_Hokie β€’ 03/04/25 10:28 AM ET
I think ESPN all along has wanted the ACC for πŸ€ ratings. They used to say
Stech β€’ 03/03/25 01:53 PM ET
With the media money difference, NIL, and players
Big12 guy β€’ 03/03/25 02:01 PM ET
SEC is just in the South that works for 🏈, but not as much for πŸ€, both
Stech β€’ 03/03/25 02:18 PM ET
All parties "won," that's a negotiation.
Baltimore_Hokie β€’ 03/03/25 01:27 PM ET
This will be the beginning of the end for the ACC as a "power" conference.
Baltimore_Hokie β€’ 03/03/25 11:58 AM ET
It’s not now in 🏈, ESPN renewed w/ ACC until 2036, expect πŸ€ acquisitions
Stech β€’ 03/03/25 02:27 PM ET
If the penalty for leaving early is reasonable, you could see
Big12 guy β€’ 03/03/25 12:22 PM ET
The article didn't mention it, but I assume that there will be no new GOR. β—„
Baltimore_Hokie β€’ 03/03/25 01:02 PM ET
Currently, I don't share your opinion that the ACC falls to
Big12 guy β€’ 03/03/25 01:10 PM ET
College football is better off if FSU, Clemson and Miami go to the B12
hokieZ71 β€’ 03/03/25 07:29 PM ET
What do you think is going to happen in 2035-
Baltimore_Hokie β€’ 03/03/25 01:22 PM ET
Nope, didn't sleep though it, but i think that you make too
Big12 guy β€’ 03/03/25 01:37 PM ET
If they weren't confident in their ability to leave-
Baltimore_Hokie β€’ 03/03/25 01:48 PM ET
haha, I'm not shy of the ire from the old timers. I am curious as
Big12 guy β€’ 03/03/25 01:58 PM ET
The schools are going to leave then because 2029-2030 is the window.
Baltimore_Hokie β€’ 03/03/25 02:02 PM ET
That is only if the ACC settles with FSU, otherwise, the full GOR
Big12 guy β€’ 03/03/25 02:06 PM ET
Very interesting. Buckle up for 2030-31, its going to get wild
HokieAl β€’ 03/03/25 11:26 AM ET