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Jasonh Jasonh OP
Feb 28, 2026 at 10:57 PM ET
I am tired of this
VT has a better opportunity to win at basketball than football. Virginia has the best private schools . Oak hill is in Virginia. They have like 5 teams now. I know I am in the minority. But we have a better opportunity to win in basketball.

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lazarus1
5mo
agree, but some on this board including
'experts' say we should just accept this station in life; VT cannot do any better than CMY
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Stech
5mo
Football has the Return on Investment, it’s not even close, we first need
to catch up in football, and that can help fund basketball when we turn it around. PS Most if not all schools sustain success in one sport, yes Michigan and Florida have their years in basketball, but not like Michigan State and Kentucky sustained success. Nor does Kentucky and Michigan State sustain their football success.
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marcbvtgm
5mo
Agree on FB ROI, but few schools sustain success in football OR basketball
Even fewer do both. And while I wouldn't say Florida has been as good as Kentucky in SEC basketball, they've been pretty damned good over the last 30 or so years. Not many programs can claim 3 NCAA championships, 5 final fours, 10 elite eights, 7 conference championships and 20+ tourney appearances over that period of time. It would easily be the 3rd best program in the ACC - not too far behind Duke & UNC - since the mid-90s and has probably been a top 10 program over that period of time behind just the bluest of blue bloods. ** Edited by marcbvtgm at 3/2/2026, 9:19:20 AM
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Stech
5mo
Yes, FL 🏀 up, but for 🏈, championships were 18 years ago. So they haven’t
really sustained tier 1 in both in the last 15-20 years.
Hubman Hubman
5mo
I said this for years on this site…even before NIL…
It’s obvious. It’s not something to even be debated. It’s just not going to happen. Basketball has been hard to watch/follow under Mike Young. There is no actual hope for a winner. People talk around here like Young is the second coming of Beamer or something. He is not. Buzz was a much better coach and we wouldn’t debate this had Cattoor not lost his mind in an ACC Tourney a few years back. The Franklin move was the biggest move since Buzz. It also signaled that we aren’t going to be focusing on basketball moving forward. It also probably signals that Mike Young will likely die on the sidelines here at VT because, well, he at least can keep us over .500 and competitive.
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40ozDistrict
5mo
It's who we are. Not gonna change.
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hok1eboy
5mo
Agreed. But it will require way more $ than we've ever spent. Not just NIL
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Moseley Hokie
5mo
I agree on the chance to be great at basketball
But we will never get there until we fund the program like a top 10 program. We are currently near the bottom of the ACC in player salaries. If we want to compete with Duke, Michigan, Florida, etc., then we need to add $15-20 million more per season. Our team makes about as much as Dybantsa from BYU. How do we expect to compete when one player makes as much as our roster?
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LonghornHokie
5mo
How is Iowa State doing it?
Do they have a desirable location, substantial NIL, or decorated history? I'd say they have as many and probably more obstacles to being a top program than VT, and they're currently sitting at #4 in the nation.
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Moseley Hokie
5mo
Iowa State gives $5 million to the basketball team as part of their
Revenue sharing, which does not include NIL. The NIL money is added to this figure. I have no idea how much they spend, but it is likely more than us. They, and the Big 12 have gotten creative with ways to generate additional revenue, such as guaranteeing a minimum of $1 million for participating in The Players Era Festival.
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HokiesACC2004
5mo
They have been consistent for a long time
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LonghornHokie
5mo
Which begs the question even more...
if they have all (if not more) of the same hurdles as VT, but have found long term consistency.
CPVT3 CPVT3
5mo
Me too. Seems like we went all in on football.
Needed to revamp Cassell a few years ago Now we can't afford anything
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GreenvilleVT
5mo
Maybe we should fund the football team less and the hoops team more.
That is if our basketball oppontunity is better than our football one.
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marcbvtgm
5mo
Only if VT wants to become irrelevant in athletics
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HokiesACC2004
5mo
Too late after what we are paying Franklin
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MaroonMark
5mo
another option, get the football money machine going
and then more fully fund basketball as soon as possible. Not sure I see how VT basketball can generate the money it takes without some help first. Been defunded so long. ** Edited by MaroonMark at 2/28/2026, 11:07:28 PM
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GreenvilleVT
5mo
I agree.
Jasonh Jasonh OP
5mo
What does that mean?
Seriously 3rd or 4th in the ACC? Most college raid Virginia now. We need 5 players in basketball with 3 -4 role players. Football needs way more
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marcbvtgm
5mo
It means you don't put your money into businesses which generate revenues
An average football program brings in far more revenues than a better than average basketball team.
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MaroonMark
5mo
basketball also needs significant facility upgrades to compete
at the level I think you are asking for, that's what I meant
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ftsumterhokie
5mo
Oh no it doesn't
Some guy went to a game at Cassell after having not gone to one in years and said it is just fine and does not need any improvement. Check out above thread on Cassell....