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vtox1 OP
Jun 01, 2024 at 11:39 AM ET
What is your opinion of VT's ultimate home put % on each of below totaling
100%: 1) ACC which includes both Clemson and FSU 2) A watered down ACC without Clemson & FSU 3) SEC 4) B10 5) B12 6) non-ncaa Football only P1 superconference My take: 1- 15% 2 - 20% 3- 25% 4 - 15% 5 - 20% 6 - 5%

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INSIDE99
VT football is too relevant
1) ACC which includes both Clemson and FSU - 0% 2) A watered down ACC without Clemson & FSU - 45% 3) SEC - super conference 4) B10 - super conference 5) B12 - 0% 6) non-ncaa Football only P1 superconference - 55% A P2 super conference is inevitable in time. I believe VT will be in that group because football in Blacksburg is the most relevant football played south of the Mason Dixon line/Ohio River and north of the Palmetto State/Rocky Top. Until that happens the ACC will exist watered down. No ACC member can go Independent.
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Stech
Thanks to Beamer/Bud Ball!!! Now we have a coach from that culture, sleep
on us please!! Especially the opposing players and fans!! IMHO good coaches always are a “little” scared, but not always so with opposing players and fans!!
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SpeakToDamien
1 for the next 4 years. Worry about after that at that time ...
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Hokie12thman
My thoughts at moment
1) ACC Full strength 2% 2) ACC - water down 0% 3)SEC 42% 4) Big10 18% 5) B12 38% 6)non ncaa football only 0%
Old Line Hokie Old Line Hokie
VT's future...
1. 0% 2. 75% 3. 10% 4. 5% 5. 10% 6. 0%
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hokieZ71
You’d have to include a range of dates for each category.
All (except #6) are somewhat plausible or implausible given the timing. I say all of that because I believe there is no “ultimate” destination in a system where Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, Indiana, Mississippi State, Illinois, Purdue and Minnesota are deemed to be deserving of one of the Top 34 paid spots in college football.
Pylons Pylons
Define "ultimate"
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obguthr
Most likely watered down ACC
1-0% 2-55% 3-10% 4-5% 5-10% 6-20% It all depends how big the P2 want to be, how much the networks are willing to pay, and who goes where. But at a minimum, FSU is leaving.
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VTCALS72
As I have said before, drop the B12 to about 2%
And I say 2% because no one should say 100% for anything except one and that would be considered "religious" so I am not going there. If VT does not get into the SEC, then most likely they will be in the "revised" ACC so I would take those 18% from the Big 12 and give them to your #2. However if some of the loudest pronostications come true and UVA and UNC +NCSU all go to the SEC, that is about the only way I see the Big 12 coming into any focus at all. Not because they are terrible (they are not) but they are terrible for VT in almost any situation AND VT is terrible (for non on field reasons) for them. Everyone needs to remember IF UVA, UNC and NCSU go to the SEC, then VT will be "ringed in" by the SEC just like we were when we were the red headed stepchild to the ACC in our own state for years. Remember Chris Coleman's story about his school wheeling in TV so students could take educational time off to watch the ACC tourney but turned down his request to watch VT in the BE tourney? It was not that the BE was not at least competitive with the ACC in basketball at that time but the ACC was the state of Va's sweetheart. It wasn't to watch good basketball, it was to watch "our" conference. That "our" conference would be all over VA again with us on the outside.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
I probably would have included a 7th option; a brand new full member
conference not named ACC, Big Ten, Big XII, or SEC. I do think there is a possibility that some of the ACC schools either decide to leave the conference to form a brand new conference (a la the MWC) or form a brand new conference because the "basketball schools" decide to kick out the football schools (a la the AAC).
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vtox1 OP
I think possible kinda throw that into #2, probably more possible in my
Mind is a reconstructed acc with bottomfeedees kicked out. I would not mind an ACC with Clemson FSU gome to B10 and Utah WVU added as replacements
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
Where #7 and #2 differ though is the watered down ACC would exist, but the
membership would comprise the bottomfeeders. Here is what I am talking about for a #7 scenario. ACC: BC, UConn, Syracuse, Pitt, Duke, Wake, GT, (maybe) UVA, (maybe) UNC, and (maybe) L'ville New Conference: FSU, Miami, Clemson, NC State, VT, (maybe) WVU, (maybe) L'ville, (maybe) Pitt, (maybe) UNC, and (maybe) UVA The reason I placed a "maybe" next to UVA, UNC, L'ville, and even Pitt is because there are questions regarding just how committed those schools are to developing their football program. If they are not as committed to their football program as they are to their basketball programs, then they may not decide to leave the ACC to form a new conference. If that is the case, then their spot would go to another school (i.e. SMU) who may share the same level of commitment as the "football schools." Likewise, if they decide to leave the ACC, then the ACC would fill their spots with other schools (i.e. UMass, Cincy, Memphis, etc.) who place more importance on their basketball programs.