Heck, it could be the ACCN would be a huge asset to ESPN. ESPN may request an amendment to the ACC deal to involve the ACC in getting this launched and certainly wouldn't walk away from a deal that is working for them.

data and preferences remain with Comcast, Spectrum, and others. By signing up the ACC customers and not having a middle man, they now have the billing and preference information, plus the demographics, ...... Do not discount what this information is worth.

with the conference to get that. Whatever they need from The ACC, they already have.

I would also think that ESPN would support the ACC Network expanding it's geographic reach too. I know it has full nationwide distribution, but adding California and Texas to the in-state footprint should significantly help. Growing that with other possibilities should also be considered.

joint streaming deal has put basketball content on the front burner with FOX and WB. One article mentioned a joint network with the Big East.

ACCN would be worth a whole lot more on that platform then it is currently. In a round about way, that is what I was inferring.

content, not much differently than get now - the different being that the content not scheduled on the linear networks, also carry fees. That includes EASP+. The ACCN would be getting double fees, from the traditional cable providers, and the new streaming platform. ALL ACC games can now be broadcast nationally. Keep in mind, one of the legs to this is customer data. By streaming the sports content through their own service, they now receive the customer data that the third party providers currently get. It's not talked about, but it's a big deal when selling advertising.

will print gross numbers of ad revenue and viewership for linear vs streaming for ESPN, etc. but not the fine detail that your addressing. But the numbers are not secrets within the companies. They know, down to the second, what the viewership is. They may get "double fees" momentarily, but consumers will eventually be watching through a cable bundle with carriage fees, or through this new sports streaming bundle with subscription fees. Every subscriber to the sports bundle will be one less unit of carriage for each linear sports channel. And none of it is a monetary opportunity for The ACC.

more money to the ACC? I don't know, as I don't know how the ACC shares in the revenue. There will be more money in having direct access to the end user data (us), and they currently do not have access to that data today. The carriage fees will increase, as it will grow the pie. Not all subscribers will be legacy cable cutters - so, it will most defiantly make the ACCN more valuable - but I will admit, i don't know if the ACC will benefit under the current contract.

Want to understand the breakaway of sports channels from the rest of the entertainment platforms, there it is. I suspected gambling was going to be a major component in the breakaway, but hadn't thought of this angle. Think about it, those that will pay for a sports only streaming service will likely be much more inclined to gamble on sports. Now, show games and allow people to bet while the game is going on (will the next play be a pass or run, will the FG be good, who will score next) it's the ultimate interactive revenue stream. Doesn't matter if viewership is cut in 1/2, those that are watching are contributing 100's of times more revenue by betting. Yeah, this is going to end up well....SMH

I wouldnt bet the farm on online gambling if I were them. I just feel like in the next few years it is going to be reigned in and regulated much tighter by Congress. Right now it is somewhat akin to the early days of mass marketed opioids . I see a lot of pushback coming once the social costs come more into focus. That said it isnt going away, it is just going to be regulated (types of bets, customers, etc. ) which will ultimately decrease usage and profitability.

The Commonwealth of Virginia received over $500M from the sportsbooks licensed in Virginia in 2023. If anything the politicians will be working overtime to make betting even more easy. And that $500M was without Virginians being able to bet on teams based in Virginia.

Yes, the feds will get involved, because there are profits to be taxed and lobbyists with bags of cash. They will do what they always do, run their yaps, grandstand, hold kangaroo courts and wag their fingers at executives from their perches above them. Then they'll go back to their offices, check their bank accounts and smile, then move on to the next industry that isn't paying their fair share. Pols only care about the social costs as a means to getting a chunk of the profits for themselves.

...the government won't restrict it very much. As you said, they'll frame restrictions as protecting the average Joe, but in the end they'll just rig it to provide maximum tax revenue. The Federal government as a whole doesn't give a damn about what's actually good for the well-being of its citizens. We are nothing but a wallet to them.

lady was teaching the guys in front of us how to gamble on their phones. I looked at my brother and said, that's why you and I and our generation not watching sports means nothing to them. Gambling is very addictive with the first (not social media) to do algorithms on how to make people addicts. Now the networks are going to jump in and like you said, they don't need the same viewership numbers, they will make far more money off of knowing the House Always Wins!!! Enjoy the Super Bowl in Vegas and their NFL team that plays there, which they only have 65,000 seats at the stadium. Proving your point again, they don't need the massive numbers, just the people that are willing to spend a lot of money. You nailed it Vienna Hokie!!!! ** Edited by Stech at 2/8/2024, 11:31:53 PM

Is celebrating a TD before I see it. Seconds matter.

I doubt they can implement pick the next play with the delay in streaming (I believe YTTV is around 30 seconds - I can see updates on fantasy players before the pay happens streaming. Now, it isn't enough of a delay to provide live odds on current games.

The only place that the betting on the next play is feasible is in the stadium itself, and the delay in processing the bet will make that somewhat unfeasible. In terms of who gets what is happening in the game, it goes from fastest to slower listed below: In stadium attendees local radio radio network over the air tv cable tv satellite tv streaming services newspaper carrier pigeon Each step each delivery system takes: In stadium: Eyes to brain Local radio: radio booth to radio station to broadcast antenna Radio network: radio booth to radio station to satellite to affiliate radio station to their broadcast antenna Over the air tv: Mobile production truck at stadium to satellite to network master control to satellite to local affiliate to broadcast antenna Cable tv: Mobile production truck at stadium to satellite to network master control to satellite to local cable company through their encryption to their lines to decoder box in the home Satellite tv: Mobile production truck at stadium to satellite to network master control to satellite to satellite tv company to their master control/encryption to their satellite to the satellite box/decoder in the home Streaming services: Mobile production truck at stadium to satellite to network master control to satellite to streaming HQ's master control where it is converted to whichever video format they use to the internet where it tries to find the fastest route to your device and then your device converts it for your viewing pleasure. Newspaper: Reporter waits until after the game, shoots the breeze with other reporters, types up the story sends it to the newspaper where an editor makes changes before it is sent to the printer where it gets printed and bundled up, a truck picks it up and drops it off to a carrier who then delivers it to your home where you open it and read about the game during your morning constitutional Carrier pigeon: Unknown, Chances are a hawk got the pigeon before it delivered the results.

Even though ESPN+ is down in subscribers. I guess if you throw enough spaghetti against the wall, some will stick. 🤷‍♂️ Also, I don’t know if you caught it, but Mr. College Football Advocate Kurt Herbstreit, talked about college football is a complete mess, and coaches are jumping like crazy to the NFL. So far, that’s all the news for this hour. 🤣

in saying college football is in dire straits. Where was this 2 years ago? You think it is due to the SEC not making the finals or Ohio State (his alma mater ironically) cleaning the SEC's clock in the transfer / NIL market?

publicly. I think he has been speaking out behind the scenes. I heard this straight from Frank, Herbie is a great guy. A lot of people try to make changes behind the scenes, but know they will lose their job if they go public. Herbie just went public, most if not all of the time, that means bye bye. Something tells me, he will be picked up by another network though if I am right.