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duro OP
Sep 01, 2023 at 10:50 AM ET
The Monty Show is reporting right now that their sources are indicating
that Florida State, Clemson, and North Carolina will enter into a negotiated exit from the ACC that will be concluded within five years. They are theory rising that that is why they expanded in order to keep the total conference membership at her above the 15 member threshold to keep the current ESPN deal from going down.

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jesuisvtguy
Ridiculous...
Sounds like a good rumor to make things appear more complicated then they are. The issue is if this were true, then it would absolutely need to be disclosed to Stanford, California and SMU. If not, then there is likely a major lawsuit in damages, as I'm sure those 3 schools would not want to join a conference knowing the 3 most valuable properties have colluded to leave.
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SpeakToDamien
Good luck with that legal argument
Old Line Hokie Old Line Hokie
Unless you reveal your "sources", it's all BS to me.
Can those three schools afford to lose over half a billion dollars? Does the SEC and B1G want to add 2 schools that are already in SEC states? Does the SEC and B1G want to add schools that they won't have the TV rights to all their home games until 2036? Clemson isn't as wealthy as some people think. Would UNC really leave their beloved ACC? UNC always votes against expansion, It's in their DNA. Their catbird seat seems to get lower with every conference expansion. FSU has always complained. They didn't like the expansion in 2012. They always think very highly of themselves but are one of the reasons (terrible football in the late 2010's and early 2020's) the ACC is in predicament it is in now. Let's say FSU and Clemson and even UNC do leave in 5 years, that's more money for the remaining ACC schools for 7 more years. Who knows what will happen between now and 2036.
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Big12 guy
If they are out the door, extract every single penny and make their move
as bad as SMU's.
Old Line Hokie Old Line Hokie
Leaving now would financially cripple Clemson for 5-10 years
Clemson is not a wealthy university. They have generous football donors but they don't have the UNC or UVA money. FSU isn't wealthy either. Clemson would likley have to drop numerous sports.
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Big12 guy
I don't see them leaving anytime soon, but if they do, they should be
crippled.
VT Pez4Life VT Pez4Life
please they're aren't going anywhere lol
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Truthahn
That is BS.
In 10 years, I might buy that argument. But those teams are stuck if they really want to leave. They might as well enjoy the wait. I do think for most of the yes votes, it is about risk mitigation, however. There is safely in numbers now. This puts the ACC third in the pecking order, and we will likely stay there even past 2036, regardless of FSU.
wwhokie1 wwhokie1
You don't stay third by taking the Big 12's rejects. If the ACC loses 2-4
Of its best schools, it will fall behind the big 12. Just losing Florida State and Clemson might drop us behind the big 12 at this point.
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HouClone
3rd or 4th, doesn't make a difference. Gap to Big 10 and SEC is another
level. Big 12 and ACC should have scheduling agreements and maybe pool their media revenue deal. All the talking heads are saying conferences would collectively get more if they did so, like the pro leagues, as they would have leverage. The conferences can still be separate and would appease the academic snobs.
wwhokie1 wwhokie1
Depends on the separation between 3rd and 4th. Too much separation and
Schools will leave for the third place conference.
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HouClone
Yes and then the 3rd will be edged out by the Big 10 and SEC.
** Edited by HouClone at 9/2/2023, 9:44:38 AM
neworleanshoo neworleanshoo
We were already a solid 3rd.
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xx97
Networks disagree
neworleanshoo neworleanshoo
I guess that's why you earned $136 million less than the ACC last year.
At only 10 members, the per school distribution is basically a wash (I'd prefer that to a sprawling super conference). But your statement is untrue. Obviously, things can - and will - change quickly as we move forward. I'm well aware that your contract comes up for renewal soon. That should be a good thing... but it's also very possible it's not.
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xx97
That's because the B12 had only 10 schools. Per school it was higher.
neworleanshoo neworleanshoo
hint - there is more text when you click on the subject line.
That's literally what I said. Per school, we each earned roughly $40 million. Overall network money is much higher for the ACC though. So your point is clearly incorrect.
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duro OP
Don’t kill the messenger. That’s what they’re reporting as we speak
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Truthahn
No knock on you. But those guys are just spit balling for clicks.
And I give them clicks, too, unfortunately.
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duro OP
If true this might explain NC State broke from UNC concerning expansion.