setting to his counterpart at FSU. We don't need to be having our ACC squabbles in public. Yeah, FSU is pissed off and are letting the world (including the Saudis) know it. But no need to go into the gutter with them publicly. Just let FSU do FSU and the rest of us keep up the daily grind. Just one man's opinion.

you pay 3X the operating budget; and then you wait til 2036 for your TV rights. on the plus, it gives VT football an opportunity to reclaim where it was the first decade of the century. we need a 10 year run like that to cement the future of the program, regardless of what conference that is. maybe even gain AAU status in that timeframe.

They were in the metro and have been using the acc for yesrs Fsu is from the not so right camp. Bunch of crazies. I stay on the unc camp - and you keep your business to your self. And the way fsu conducts their business it could be a red flag for both sec and big 10 . Dont need thaf drama Go lsu kill them. I hope when fsu teams go visit acc venues they get only cursory support. Let them find a prqctice field- hotels what hotels??

If FSU tells you they'll never leave the ACC, I probably wouldn't believe them. UNC would attack you for even suggesting they would leave their beloved ACC, their sister NC schools, and the like minded academic integrity and excellence that the fellow ACC schools bring to the conference. All while having fake classes, paying off the right people, and asking, no expecting, an invitation into the NFL, NBA, WNBA, and any other league they feel is their birthright.

Yuge hypocrites

today, but we just saw 2 old time traditional rivalries get destroyed in a heartbeat, and how many others over the past decade because of this ridiculous arms race between the SEC and B1G whatever.

and was foolishly making that bet when Virginia Tech could have easily grabbed Missouri's SEC spot. That was why I was so adamant on getting the hell out of the ACC. Internal dynamics of the SEC where one school could block in-state entrants was our ticket and we squandered it. Now we are in line behind all those teams, when in 2011 we weren't. The ACC might..... might have stayed a decent conference if it kept its arrangement with Notre Dame and had added Texas but that was the other stupid bet that was made. The two very stupid conjectures that were made, 1) that we wouldn't fall in the SEC's expansion candidate hierarchy and 2) that the ACC with it's very flawed regional composition and portfolio skewed with economically unattractive small private schools could significantly improve its school composition.

you think that VT has more electoral weight than wealthy UVA with a greater share of out-of-state students and a smaller number of in-state students? If you can net shift 3 or 4% of voters into your camp that will win you an election, especially in 2011 when VA was more toss-up or republican. That's why Mark Warner bet his ass off on getting VT an ACC spot in the first place. It either inoculated him or helped him electorally with more rural and conservative football-oriented voters and didn't change the minds of many who were going to vote for him anyhow. VT could have broken with UVA and the politicians would have had to get in line. A similar situation occurred in Texas, a very red state. No one one had the balls to piss off the A&M fan base. That would get you torched in the primary, whereas in VA it would play out in the general election. But here's the rub. You have to have fan base that is mean and has the balls and really wants to win at the highest level, not a bunch of people that are taking bus rides to games in their regional footprint. This still makes me sick watching this play out. We were too clean and nice to take it when it was there, in which case, we really don't deserve it. This isn't meant to trash people, it is just meant to point out a reality. Reading the board back in 2011, I could just tell that a LOT of people didn't want to face the harsh possibly existential reality that was coming. And if a lot of people on this board didn't want to rock the boat, the political brawl wasn't going to happen either. I'd prefer we'd have bet the ranch and gone to war to leave. I go to a LOT of SEC games and love that conference and still think the 2002 home game against LSU was amazing.